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Problem - Debuffall

Jalerian

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Is the extended target window required for Debuffall to work properly? Does the debuffall functionality work on progression servers that do not have the extended target window available yet?

I have had the same issue with a shaman and an enchanter trying to use the debuffall command. For the shaman, I want him to slow all the mobs in camp and for the enchanter, I want him to tash all the mobs in camp. When I pull a single mob with debuffall enabled, neither of them cast anything until just before the mob is dead (like 25% is when they start casting). Both have DPS1=SpellName|98. When I disable debuffall, they start casting as soon as the mob is in camp. When 2 mobs are pulled with debuffall enabled, it continues to be very slow on the first, but quicker on the second.

Thanks!
 
post you entire dps section for us to examine, will make it easier to understand what is happening.
 
needs to be
Rich (BB code):
dps1=slowspell|99|debuffall|slow
can also do
Rich (BB code):
dps1=tashspell|99|debuffall|tash
make sure
Rich (BB code):
debuffall=1
debuffall=0 is for standard dps routines
debuffall=1 is debuff all mobs "using the debuff all tags" attempting one cast per spell per mob
debuffall=2 is cast all debuffs in order till all are on each mob
Rich (BB code):
DebuffAllOn
You can apply the debuffall tag specifically to spells you want to cast debuffs on all mobs in camp. Spells without this tag will revert to the default Kiss debuffing style.
Syntax: DPS1=Spell/AA|MobHealth%|debuffall|slow/tash/malo/crip/snare/strip|always -- See below for examples.
***When setting up the order of your debuffs. If you are going to use a combination of Spells and AA's. It's a good idea to stagger them, where an AA follows a Spell. The reason for this is that AA's can be cast while spells are still in a global cool down.
***Currently, in MQ2 there is no way to test if a debuff spell will overwrite/stack/land on the mob before you cast it. Also there is no easy way to determine if spell is a slow, tash, malo, crip, snare type spell. So it is required that users specify this tag for the debuff type, if it applies.
DebuffAllOn=0 	OFF. Kiss casts debuffs normally, debuffing only the primary kill target assigned by the MA. Debuff all requires DPSOn=2? Need Clarification.
DebuffAllOn=1 	This will try and cast every buff, but will not wait for spells/AAs to become ready. If spell is ready, cast it. If spell is not ready move on to next spell/AA. rinse and repeat. After best try casting on current mob. Move on to next mob. This behavior will continue until all debuffs have been cast on all mobs. This option is considered best try and gives priority to DPS than Debuffing. Take into consideration that after trying to debuff each mob if you are a caster with DPSOn set up, That the DPS routine will be run on the MA's current target between each mob being checked for debuffs.
DebuffAllOn=2 	This option will spend more time trying to make sure all debuffs are cast on each mob. This option is considered persistent and gives priority to Debuffing than DPS. There is an exception. If you have a debuff that has a long recast timer, that debuff may be skipped.
Slow/tash/malo/crip tag - is used to check mob for the current TYPE of debuff, and the "always" tag is used to know if to overwrite the current TYPE debuff.
Strip tag - is used for dispelling beneficial buffs from mobs. Need Clarification.
Always tag - Be careful when using the always tag, because this could cause your character to spam that debuff, if your spell will not overwrite an existing debuff already on the mob.
 
Rich (BB code):
[General]
KissAssistVer=10.2.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0|98
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Shaman|65|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
ConditionsOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsCOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Focus of the Seventh
Buffs2=Spirit of Bih`Li
Buffs3=Talisman of Celerity
Buffs4=Blessing of Replenishment
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=loose
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AECOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSCOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Turgur's Insects|99|debuffall|slow
DPS2=Spear of Torment|90
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=1
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsCOn=0
HealsSize=15
Heals1=Quiescence|80
Heals2=Tnarg's Mending|40
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=True Spirit
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=15
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

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Enchanters:
Rich (BB code):
[General]
KissAssistVer=10.2.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0|98
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Enchanter|9|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
ConditionsOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsCOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Lesser Shielding|me
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AECOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSCOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Tashina|94|debuffall
DPS2=Chaotic Feedback|80
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=1
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsCOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Kilan's Animation
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=5
MezMaxLevel=55
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Mesmerize
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0
[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=15
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
 
also load the latest version of kiss.
How does one go about doing this? I just now double clicked the Redguides Update Alias that was installed and it says that the latest version is already installed. Do I need to do something else to install a more updated version of Kissassist?

Thanks!
 

Do you have to do a manual update each time a new version of KissAssist is released (I assume I just take that .mac file you posted and drop it in the macros file in the MQ2 release folder)? Will it leave my ini's alone except change the version line automatically the next time I run /mac kissassist? Or is there a different procedure?

Thanks!
 
Your illustration you gave above is correct. The macro goes in the macro folder and your ini file won't get changed except for the version or any new entries that are added.
 
KA auto-updates with the RedGuides Vanilla update, but sometimes there is a bug fix update of KA that you can manually update if you're having issues. You can check for threads in that forum for the latest KA.
 
Problem - Debuffall

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