Tip - COV Sontalak Raid

[Szazor]

I am having problems with this raid and just wondering if there are any uber strats for it.


I position my raid off to corner. There is a sweet spot where you are out of Banishment area and not out of bounds.
If i can get it right then there is no problem. But getting him positioned correctly is about a 1 in 10 situation.
Lots and lots of wasted time.

Ive seen some video's on Youtube of Guilds just tanking him where he spawns - but How are they then avoiding the banishment? I dont understand.
I also know that If You Burn him down aka Zlandicar then the multiple Burning Aggressor Mobs do their 500K AE. SO how would they handle that?

I do a slow burn - making sure there are no adds up when they go BOOM.

I was thinking of doing an event for when the mobs explode but the casting time for the Volcanic Explosion is 0, so there is no real warning when the Adds go boom.



Any one have some l33t strats they can share to assist and make it a little easier?

 

[ARHEverquest]

I am having problems with this raid and just wondering if there are any uber strats for it.

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I position my raid off to corner. There is a sweet spot where you are out of Banishment area and not out of bounds.
If i can get it right then there is no problem. But getting him positioned correctly is about a 1 in 10 situation.
Lots and lots of wasted time.

Ive seen some video's on Youtube of Guilds just tanking him where he spawns - but How are they then avoiding the banishment? I dont understand.
I also know that If You Burn him down aka Zlandicar then the multiple Burning Aggressor Mobs do their 500K AE. SO how would they handle that?

I do a slow burn - making sure there are no adds up when they go BOOM.

I was thinking of doing an event for when the mobs explode but the casting time for the Volcanic Explosion is 0, so there is no real warning when the Adds go boom.

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Any one have some l33t strats they can share to assist and make it a little easier?

You can burn him down, but it has to be 30ish mil dps. When we box it, we just burn it, granted we’re all lvl 120. Couldn’t do it at 115. The ideal way is to burn slowly, switch to aggressors, then other trash. Our main tank driver always had us eat the frontal upon pulling. Incredibly annoying lol

 

[Szazor]

You can burn him down, but it has to be 30ish mil dps. When we box it, we just burn it, granted we’re all lvl 120. Couldn’t do it at 115. The ideal way is to burn slowly, switch to aggressors, then other trash. Our main tank driver always had us eat the frontal upon pulling. Incredibly annoying lol

So where do you pull him to? I have enough Dps. But i really dont see how they do it in the you tube videos and not get banished.

 

[durango773]

maps show bad edge. need pull west/left on that map to the bulge. best to have 2 tanks ready, to tag/retag to get him up there. I use a war for the starting/pit area to take those quad dragon hits.

 

[ARHEverquest]

We pull him similar to you, but the place you’re at is close to being banished. Have the tank get on this edge.

 

[durango773]

We pull him similar to you, but the place you’re at is close to being banished. Have the tank get on this edge.

this

 

[durango773]

to expand some, put your campfires/banners at the SE edge, thats where dps ahould stand. getting mob out of pit and postitioned is the key. i like a war, some swear by sk, but, puller gonna get rocked, and has to be driver/skilled player.

 

[Szazor]

ok so my strat may just need to get better with positioning. I just dont understand how they do it on the You tube video where they stand right in the aura. They dont have MEGA dps or anything...
Sontalak COV You Tube

/Shrug

 

[Grpsmashin]

So i remember doing this when this expansion was live. We tanked him where he was and rotated counter-clockwise around him and switch to kill adds when needed. It was very crazy at the time. Since lvl 120, I have been on raids where we just blow him up outside his spawn area and also where he spawns.

I havent seen any of the youtubes you mention however.

 

[Grpsmashin]

ok so my strat may just need to get better with positioning. I just dont understand how they do it on the You tube video where they stand right in the aura. They dont have MEGA dps or anything...
Sontalak COV You Tube

/Shrug

To quote you on this one, this video shows how they rotate counter-clockwise to avoid his AE and Aura at his spawn point it looks like. Its timed and sometimes slow and then sometimes fast. FYI

 

[Many_Whelps]

You only need to avoid the aura when the emote happens. 95% of the time, the banishment aura does nothing. If you can lag out the zone sufficiently, the adds fail in pathing to the raid and just blow up at their spawn point.

 

[Armyboxer99]

One strat is to pop everything possible to lag out the zone but this strat will depend on how many chars you have in raid. I'm talking familiars, bankers, tribute, swarm pets the works and then max burn when Sonty in the position that you show him on map - lag will mess with the adds getting to raid so if your lucky you should only get 1 or 2 explode at the end.

 

[secret_wombat]

When the expansion was live we used to place 2 campfires on opposite sides of Sontalak. We would fight him at first campfire and then when aura swung round we would move to the other campfire and b[BGCOLOR=initial]y only using 2 campfires we kept movement to a minimum.[/BGCOLOR]

[BGCOLOR=initial]When we decided to burn it down we would place the raid near where ARHEverquest mentions and the drakes would be moved to the west. It would take the tanks 10-15 seconds to position Sontalak correctly so raid would wait before assisting. At low health (<10%) the raid would start to use invulnerability abilities / dragon scales to minimise deaths.[/BGCOLOR]

 

[Trapper]

We still run out and do Zlandicar and Sontalak about once a week for the ore's
we fight it out on the edge where you show in picture, with tank located where ARHEverquest shows in his picture.

if we have less the 17m dps we have to slow kill and kill off all the adds, if we have > 17m dps we burn it using 7th for extra DPS, we also hit dragon glyph on everyone around 50%. usually with >17m dps the Aggressor mob pop before getting to the raid.

though the 1 thing it sounds like we do different then what I read above is we stand an SK off to the left. (will show on map)

he just out of Banish aura edge, and away from raid, what he does is agro's all the Aggressor mobs as they come in. that way even at the time of explosion it doesn't hit the main raid force.

 

[Grpsmashin]

We still run out and do Zlandicar and Sontalak about once a week for the ore's
we fight it out on the edge where you show in picture, with tank located where ARHEverquest shows in his picture.

if we have less the 17m dps we have to slow kill and kill off all the adds, if we have > 17m dps we burn it using 7th for extra DPS, we also hit dragon glyph on everyone around 50%. usually with >17m dps the Aggressor mob pop before getting to the raid.

though the 1 thing it sounds like we do different then what I read above is we stand an SK off to the left. (will show on map)
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he just out of Banish aura edge, and away from raid, what he does is agro's all the Aggressor mobs as they come in. that way even at the time of explosion it doesn't hit the main raid force.

So i have worked on and off on this one. I have got the placement down and im burning around 25 mil currently. However, no matter what, as soon as Sontalak hits 50% i get adds.

Was this changed? I have switched to killling adds now but so many of them come i get overwhelmed.

 

[WillardJ85]

For Sontalak I just ignore all of the adds and burn him, once in awhile I wipe due to low dps and the raid exploding..But most of the time it turns out okay

 

[Many_Whelps]

So i have worked on and off on this one. I have got the placement down and im burning around 25 mil currently. However, no matter what, as soon as Sontalak hits 50% i get adds.

Was this changed? I have switched to killling adds now but so many of them come i get overwhelmed.

"not getting adds" was always based on server lag and/or zone lag such that the pathing system went to shit and couldn't actually get the drakes to the raid. It's not exactly reproducible on all servers and at any time of day. Running mass amounts of swarm pets, steadfast servants, jesters, familiars, etc. can help lag out a zone, but if you're running less than 54 characters, you'll be hard pressed to generate enough lag inducing things.

 

[Grpsmashin]

"not getting adds" was always based on server lag and/or zone lag such that the pathing system went to shit and couldn't actually get the drakes to the raid. It's not exactly reproducible on all servers and at any time of day. Running mass amounts of swarm pets, steadfast servants, jesters, familiars, etc. can help lag out a zone, but if you're running less than 54 characters, you'll be hard pressed to generate enough lag inducing things.

I see. I knew getting adds was still going to happen. Just for me they seems to all come at 50%. i havent tried to lag the zone out but i will try that on next attempt!

For Sontalak I just ignore all of the adds and burn him, once in awhile I wipe due to low dps and the raid exploding..But most of the time it turns out okay

This is what i was trying to do but, i blowup too much lol

Thanks for the reply guys. Ill keep at it.

 

[dewey2461]

We spent a hell of a long working on the mechanics for this raid and they just suck.

The main issue you have to deal with is the ADDs exploding and taking multiple overlapping AE's at the same time.

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BANISH:

EMOTE: The aura of banishment glows.
- Happens every 60s
- Have 10s to get out of aura
- You can hide from this by being in the NE or NW ledge.

STATUE:

EMOTE: The statue turns to face [NAME].
- Happens every 35s
- Picks a person. Does a cone attack +/- 10 degree - those in area hit with "Volcanic Jet"
- 400k + 100k/tick for 18s ==> 246K + 65k/tick on rap after damage reduction


DRAGON:

EMOTE: Sontalak takes a deep breath.
- Happens every 60s
- Frontal AE


EMOTE: Sontalak lifts his left wing and his tail.
EMOTE: Sontalak lifts his right wing and his tail.
EMOTE: Sontalak lifts his wings.

- One of these happens every 45s

NOTE: Once every 3m = 180s BOTH the frontal AE and the directional AE will happen AT THE SAME TIME!

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ADDS:

From 78 - 63 = 6 adds - one every 3%
From 61 - 03 = 40 adds - one every 1-2%

NOTE: The script that generates the adds is fairly slow. Once you trip a HP threshold it spawns the next mob(s), but then waits ~ 6s before checking the HP again. Mobs also take a several seconds to go active once spawned.

Some of the adds will "blow up" when / if the boss gets more that 7% damage from the time the add was spawned. When they blow up:

A burning aggressor begins casting Volcanic Explosion -> 300k AE

If you have enough DPS you can have the mob spawn at say 78% and have the dragon down below 71% before it goes active , which causes it to despawn as soon as it would go active.

The other type of adds can be mezed.

HOWEVER: At 7% any adds that are up all explode with Volcanic Explosion. If you can mez/punt the adds away from the raid then you can live through it.

Otherwise use divine barrier type abilities to negate the damage.

OR

Go super slow and kill the adds as they pop.

-- ps. I hate this raid with a passion.

 

[Eltai86]

Just burn the fuck out of himC pack on the dots and DA through the add explosion (You are using bards in almost every group right?)

 

[Szazor]

The trick for me was getting him positioned correctly.
He would always do an ae or bots would start moving about and I could never get him deep enough.

So now I move raid to postion. MA on Manual, Raid on Chase
Have them all /dgae /face Sontalak
Do a /dgae /rootme on (So bots arent being dumbasses when an ae hits)

On one War do a /rootme off and go pull him as deep as you can - right to the edge. Even If my War falls off i dont care - as long as Sont is situated correctly.
/dgae /rootme off (Everyone just goes ballistic)

Set your Bards and Enc to forget about mezzing/Tashing/Slowing...waste of time. (Dont forget to turn it back on..dont that a few times)
I just burn from about 80% now. Intensity is usually fine without blowing Glyph

At around 10% have the ENC's do a MGB Glyph Spray and a MGB LEGION