Problem - Chain pulling not working on bard

[livingkennedy]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

12.002

When did your problem start?

First time trying it.

Character Role?

1. Puller

What class is having this issue?

1. Bard

How often does this issue occur?

Always

Can you reproduce the issue?

yes. simply turning on the macro

I did not find any answer to my problem in the other threads. Essentially my bard always waits until the mob is dead to look for the next one. I basically want him to pull ASAP as my team will wreck just about anything by the time he gets back. My INI (you might question some things but it's because I've been playing around with it to see if anything fixes it).

Edit: So apparently chain pull works if things are within a certain close range, however it does NOT work for me when things are outside the close range but STILL within the range specified on my MaxRadius. I am not sure why, but mobs that are within it (even on map) will not get chain pulled. However, if there are things within around 500 feet or so, he will chain pull. I am not sure if this is a bug or what?

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Puller
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=20
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|65|GOLD
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0
TwistOn=0
TwistMed=1
TwistWhat=6
XTSlot=1
[SpellS]
MiscGem=9
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=1
SpellSetName=a
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
Gem1=chorus of marr
Gem2=war march of the mastruq
Gem3=call of the muse
Gem4=call of the banshee
Gem5=lullaby of morell
Gem6=selo's accelerating chorus
Gem7=NULL
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Selo's chords of cessation
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Selo's Sonata|mash
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=6
PetTauntOverride=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealInterval=0
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=95
[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=43
MezMaxLevel=68
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=lullaby of morell
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
BurnSize=15
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Shuriken|Shuriken
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=1000
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=1
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=98
PullPause=30|1
PullLevel=0|68
PullArcWidth=360
PullTwistOn=1
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE

 

[Cannonballdex]

I did not find any answer to my problem in the other threads. Essentially my bard always waits until the mob is dead to look for the next one. I basically want him to pull ASAP as my team will wreck just about anything by the time he gets back. My INI (you might question some things but it's because I've been playing around with it to see if anything fixes it).

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Puller
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=20
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|65|GOLD
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0
TwistOn=0
TwistMed=1
TwistWhat=6
XTSlot=1
[SpellS]
MiscGem=9
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=1
SpellSetName=a
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
Gem1=chorus of marr
Gem2=war march of the mastruq
Gem3=call of the muse
Gem4=call of the banshee
Gem5=lullaby of morell
Gem6=selo's accelerating chorus
Gem7=NULL
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Selo's chords of cessation
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Selo's Sonata|mash
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=6
PetTauntOverride=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealInterval=0
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=95
[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=43
MezMaxLevel=68
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=lullaby of morell
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
BurnSize=15
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Shuriken|Shuriken
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=1000
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=1
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=98
PullPause=30|1
PullLevel=0|68
PullArcWidth=360
PullTwistOn=1
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE

Wish I could help, but I have never been able to get chain puller to work. I probably didn't read the directions thoroughly.

 

[Amarth]

Shruiken mis-spelling might be why, but also you have z-radius too small, another possible issue.

98%. you must be in a huge zone for yourself wanting to pull at 98% hp :P I like to set mine at 20%

[SpellS] also won't help. [Spells] will work.

 

[Naturesong]

Can't see the issue.

Here's a working pull section from my lower level bard:
MaxZRange is set higher than I normally would due to last zone I was in - normally set to around 75 - 100.
[CODE lang="ini" title="Pull Section from Kissassist"]PullWith=Fishbone Darts|Fishbone Darts
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=450
MaxZRange=200
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=60
PullLevel=0|68
PullPause=30|2|Cond8
PullArcWidth=0
PullTwistOn=1
PullOnReturn=1

Cond8=${Me.PctHPs} < 80 || ${Me.Snared} || ${Group.AnyoneMissing} || ${Me.Buff[Resurrection Sickness].ID} || ${Me.Buff[Revival Sickness].ID}[/CODE]

 

[Naturesong]

Shruiken mis-spelling might be why, but also you have z-radius too small, another possible issue.

98%. you must be in a huge zone for yourself wanting to pull at 98% hp :P I like to set mine at 20%

[SpellS] also won't help. [Spells] will work.

Spelling seems ok: Shuriken
But given the range of a Shuriken is only 60, you may want to replace them with something more useful; Fishbone Darts or Whittled Fishbone Darts until you can get something better (Ton Po's Mystical Pouch: Shuriken of Eternity)

 

[livingkennedy]

Shruiken mis-spelling might be why, but also you have z-radius too small, another possible issue.

98%. you must be in a huge zone for yourself wanting to pull at 98% hp :P I like to set mine at 20%

[SpellS] also won't help. [Spells] will work.

I don't see the mispelling and it's using them so that's not a problem. Strangely the SpellS works. I'm not sure why it had the capital S. lol...yea it's a big zone but for a bard with selos it doesn't take long to pull. That's why i really want him chain pulling

 

[livingkennedy]

Can't see the issue.

Here's a working pull section from my lower level bard:
MaxZRange is set higher than I normally would due to last zone I was in - normally set to around 75 - 100.
[CODE lang="ini" title="Pull Section from Kissassist"]PullWith=Fishbone Darts|Fishbone Darts
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=450
MaxZRange=200
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=60
PullLevel=0|68
PullPause=30|2|Cond8
PullArcWidth=0
PullTwistOn=1
PullOnReturn=1

Cond8=${Me.PctHPs} < 80 || ${Me.Snared} || ${Group.AnyoneMissing} || ${Me.Buff[Resurrection Sickness].ID} || ${Me.Buff[Revival Sickness].ID}[/CODE]

Changed my Z radius to no avail.

 

[livingkennedy]

To add to my original post: during combat, my dialog box will say "Checking for close range mobs" repeatedly. There will be plenty to choose from, yet he won't budge until the target is dead. then he goes right for it.

 

[Amarth]

To add to my original post: during combat, my dialog box will say "Checking for close range mobs" repeatedly. There will be plenty to choose from, yet he won't budge until the target is dead. then he goes right for it.

Yeah, mine gets like that too sometimes. I don't understand why. Debug keeps checking in the med section, even though everyone is 100% everything, it refuses to pull sometimes.

 

[Amarth]

Spelling seems ok: Shuriken
But given the range of a Shuriken is only 60, you may want to replace them with something more useful; Fishbone Darts or Whittled Fishbone Darts until you can get something better (Ton Po's Mystical Pouch: Shuriken of Eternity)

I'm the one who mis-spelled it. Apparently google says it is shuriken. Lmao. FML. Anyways. yeah. Definitely better range items available.

 

[ctaylor22]

There is a special debug you can use to see why the puller is not pulling next mob when you think they should. Try this link Chain Pulling.

 

[Chip]

Maybe this will help, or maybe it will just sound silly, but for me, I found that I was leaving my "Follow Me" on. For some reason the bard can go out and pull and such but will wait for a few seconds after each kill instead of chain-pulling with it on. Turning it off, the bard chain pulls without issue.