Question - Caster Necro as main

[corecoder]

Im trying to set up my necro as main puller and assist.
I want the other casters in group, Shm, Enchanter, Mage and Ranger to assist the necro @ 95%.
I can get it working fine using an SK or any other melee tank but when I pull the mobs with necro they dont do anything.
Is there a way to assist the necro when mob gets to 95%?
Im a new user btw.

 

[Sic]

Im trying to set up my necro as main puller and assist.
I want the other casters in group, Shm, Enchanter, Mage and Ranger to assist the necro @ 95%.
I can get it working fine using an SK or any other melee tank but when I pull the mobs with necro they dont do anything.
Is there a way to assist the necro when mob gets to 95%?
Im a new user btw.

without letting folks know what automation you're using, the only answer is "just have them assist you, duh"

you didn't post in a location that would tell you what you're using on your other characters, nor indicate.

if you're using the cwtn class plugins, they expect the MA to be "up in melee range", for caster classes we'll check against their pet, if for some reason they're the group MA.

as someone who main'd a necro for many years - I would strongly reconsider have yourself as the group main assist - you should leave your SK as group maintank and group mainassist - and if you want the group to swap to you, you should tell your sk to swap to your target with a hotkey

 

[corecoder]

Ahh thank you for the response. Im sorry but Im brand new to this software. Im using KissAssist. I copied some of the macro's from the website. Although when I try to "Watch" the dannet to install it in the Launcher, it will not list in the Launcher.
Regarding the characters, I dont have an SK the same level as the other chars, he is a lot lower level and just used it as an example to test how it works.
I understand you said maybe use my Necro pet as the MA? I will try this.
And I do appreciate you answering my ignorant and newb questions. Like I said just purchased the membership a couple days ago so new to the software.
Hope you have a good day.

 

[durango773]

Ahh thank you for the response. Im sorry but Im brand new to this software. Im using KissAssist. I copied some of the macro's from the website. Although when I try to "Watch" the dannet to install it in the Launcher, it will not list in the Launcher.
Regarding the characters, I dont have an SK the same level as the other chars, he is a lot lower level and just used it as an example to test how it works.
I understand you said maybe use my Necro pet as the MA? I will try this.
And I do appreciate you answering my ignorant and newb questions. Like I said just purchased the membership a couple days ago so new to the software.
Hope you have a good day.

Dannet comes with VV DL, no need to watch to get it

 

[Sic]

Ahh thank you for the response. Im sorry but Im brand new to this software. Im using KissAssist. I copied some of the macro's from the website. Although when I try to "Watch" the dannet to install it in the Launcher, it will not list in the Launcher.
Regarding the characters, I dont have an SK the same level as the other chars, he is a lot lower level and just used it as an example to test how it works.
I understand you said maybe use my Necro pet as the MA? I will try this.
And I do appreciate you answering my ignorant and newb questions. Like I said just purchased the membership a couple days ago so new to the software.
Hope you have a good day.

Dannet comes with VV DL, no need to watch to get it

yep - the only plugins on the plugins tab of the launcher to "manage" are ones that are not automatically included - which are "premium (pay for)" plugins like mq2grind or the cwtn class plugins - everything else is included.

when you start kiss on your toons to assist your necro - how are you doing so?

target the necro and /mac kissassist assist 98

 

[AlleyKat777]

Ahh thank you for the response. Im sorry but Im brand new to this software. Im using KissAssist. I copied some of the macro's from the website. Although when I try to "Watch" the dannet to install it in the Launcher, it will not list in the Launcher.
Regarding the characters, I dont have an SK the same level as the other chars, he is a lot lower level and just used it as an example to test how it works.
I understand you said maybe use my Necro pet as the MA? I will try this.
And I do appreciate you answering my ignorant and newb questions. Like I said just purchased the membership a couple days ago so new to the software.
Hope you have a good day.

I do not wish to nit pick, But Sic said that *you* should be the MA, not the pet. That way you are in melee range of your group after a pull. You can also increase the melee range in the .ini file, to adapt to whatever you are camping. I personally use my mage pet as MA, but I have a macro set up for called assist when the puller reaches camp. When you first start out, it can seem overwhelming. Stick with it, learn as you go. And if you feel it's too much, the premium plug-ins have all the work done for you.

 

[corecoder]

Thank you guys for all the info. I was setting my necro as MA the on the mage I ran /mac kissassist assist 95
The mage .ini has Role=Assist and CampRadius=50
I wanted to use the necro as main assist atleast his pet cause his pet is just ridiculously strong lol.
I dont have a tank even half as strong as the pet or I would use a tank.
I will try a premium Macro see if that will work. Thanks again guys.

 

[corecoder]

One thing I noticed, on Necro if I do /mac kissassist on necro it always shows No MainAssist Target and a BEEP. I know the video's say dont worry about this.
I have tried setting the mage to /mac kissassist assist 98 and targeting both the necro and even tried targeting the necro pet but the mage will not assist. I tried using necro MA and unchecked MA. Tried using the macro .ini's and checked pet is on but mage just sits there like nothing is happening hehe.
When I try everything again on a bst and bard having everything just magically work on them two but going back to my 2 box caster crew, necro and mage it will not work. Have tried both on live server and test server.
The PET portion of the .ini looks correct

[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetAttackDistance=115
PetToysSize=6
PetToysOn=0
PetToys1=NULL
PetToys2=NULL
PetToys3=NULL
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToysGave=NULL
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0

 

[corecoder]

Ok I figured it out, looking through many different .ini's this command was missing PetCombatOn=1
As soon as I added it, made came to life and is the necro's best friend

 

[ctaylor22]

If you target a pet as MA when starting the macro, the macro will default to the pets master, and make the master the MA. Pets don't normally assign their own target the master of the pet does that, so no reason to wait on the pet to get the target, plus if the pet dies, then there is no MA and there is no guarantee that the new pet will have the same name. So you end up restarting the macro on every player.

 

[AlleyKat777]

Thank you guys for all the info. I was setting my necro as MA the on the mage I ran /mac kissassist assist 95
The mage .ini has Role=Assist and CampRadius=50
I wanted to use the necro as main assist atleast his pet cause his pet is just ridiculously strong lol.
I dont have a tank even half as strong as the pet or I would use a tank.
I will try a premium Macro see if that will work. Thanks again guy

If you target a pet as MA when starting the macro, the macro will default to the pets master, and make the master the MA. Pets don't normally assign their own target the master of the pet does that, so no reason to wait on the pet to get the target, plus if the pet dies, then there is no MA and there is no guarantee that the new pet will have the same name. So you end up restarting the macro on every player.

That has not been my experience. When I set my Shammy to use pet as MA to make sure pet gets majority of the heals, it does not default to the mage, but the pet. Also, not to nitpick, but if you spent a little DB coin, your pet always has the same name regardless how many you summon

 

[ctaylor22]

But we can't assume anything. If I was to assume that everyone paid to get a static name for their pet, then the macro wouldn't work for those who didn't, and can anyone tell me what percentage of players have static pet name vs those who don't?

[CODE lang="rich" highlight="12-14"]
Sub StartupMisc
/declare s_Temp1 string local ${Ini[${IniFileName},Spells,Gem1,BLANK]}
/declare i_x int local 0
| If I am group leader set Main Assist Tag for Group Check for pet and make master MainAssist
/if (${Select[${Me},${Group.Leader}]}) {
/if (${Spawn[group ${MainAssist}].ID} || (${Spawn[${MainAssist}].Type.Equal[pet]} && ${Spawn[group ${Spawn[${MainAssist}].Master.CleanName}].ID})) {
| If Main Assist is someone else than who its suppose to be unset Group tag
/if (${Group.MainAssist.Name.Length} && ${Group.MainAssist.Name.NotEqual[${MainAssist}]}) {
/call AssignGroupRole unset "${Group.MainAssist.Name}" 2
}
/if (!${Group.MainAssist.Name.Length}) {
==> /if (${Spawn[${MainAssist}].Type.Equal[pet]}) {
==> /call BroadCast r "Assigning ${Spawn[${MainAssist}].Master.CleanName} as Main Assist in Group Window"
==> /call AssignGroupRole set "${Spawn[${MainAssist}].Master.CleanName}" 2
} else {
/call BroadCast r "Assigning ${MainAssist} as Main Assist in Group Window"
/call AssignGroupRole set "${MainAssist}" 2
}
}
} else /if (${Group.MainAssist.Name.Length} && ${Group.MainAssist.Name.NotEqual[${MainAssist}]}) {
/call AssignGroupRole unset "${Group.MainAssist.Name}" 2
}
}
/if (${LoadSpellSet}) /call LoadSpellSet
/if (${s_Temp1.Equal[blank]}) /call Bind_WriteMySpells 1
/return
[/CODE]

This is where the MA is set to the Master if your target was pet when you started the macro.