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Question - Box Combo.
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No surprise but I use War,Cleric,Chanter,Wiz,Wiz,Wiz as my standard
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Shamies, Rangers, Mages whatever the buffs are not needed when you have 3 wizzies nuking the piss outta everything
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Shamies, Rangers, Mages whatever the buffs are not needed when you have 3 wizzies nuking the piss outta everything
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But wizards are sooo boring. Other class will make the group more interesting.
you know what I find interesting, results, dead mobs giving me good loots! There is a reason I have over 80 Rares in the bank....
for me at least it is not the characters you like to play, its the ones that give you results, I have over a hundred top level toons. When I play it is one thing, when I farm or PL it is another matter entirely. If you play a Monk then you want a monk in your group. When you KISS you need to realize the powers and shortcomings of any class. This is why I do Wizards and now Beastlords, cause I have kiss or afnuke files that make them destroy content and bring me results. Yeah rangers are nice, shammies are cool and mages can do good dps, just not as good as my wizards can and do day in day out with the KISS principle. Just my 2 cents.
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Let me give you a real world example, me and a guildy were both on the beach.... I was showing him how to run the beach. I set my 5 toons, not even 6, just 5.... war,cler,wiz,wiz,wiz no crowd control needed.
I was in 1 corner, I set him on the next corner and he had a full group of toons all dpsing and mezzing and tanking and shit, I not killed all the mobs near me, I was pulling shit past him to me because I had killed everything on my sides and he was still working on the ones in front of him, I would say I was killing 3x as fast as he was easily! Set up a team for the result you wish...
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Let me give you a real world example, me and a guildy were both on the beach.... I was showing him how to run the beach. I set my 5 toons, not even 6, just 5.... war,cler,wiz,wiz,wiz no crowd control needed.
I was in 1 corner, I set him on the next corner and he had a full group of toons all dpsing and mezzing and tanking and shit, I not killed all the mobs near me, I was pulling shit past him to me because I had killed everything on my sides and he was still working on the ones in front of him, I would say I was killing 3x as fast as he was easily! Set up a team for the result you wish...
It is not that I hate mercs, I love mercs, I just hate wasting plat on them when I can just add a real cleric who can really rez my dead ass DURING real fights, mercs are a nice stopgap they should never be a destination
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I can box 12 groups now, wonder how many if I used mercs.... wait not sure there are that many good camps in all of eq... mwahahahaha
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So not sure how your dps stacks up but with 3 afnuke2 wizzies in a group in TDS content my tank pulls it in... dark blue... he hits it till it goes to 99% then the wizzies kick in and I see 99 > 70 > 50 > 30 > 10 > dead..... just like that... bam next mob please. Or if Crits go off which happens a lot with my wizzies, its 99 30 dead or just 99 then dead...
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I can box 12 groups now, wonder how many if I used mercs.... wait not sure there are that many good camps in all of eq... mwahahahaha
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So not sure how your dps stacks up but with 3 afnuke2 wizzies in a group in TDS content my tank pulls it in... dark blue... he hits it till it goes to 99% then the wizzies kick in and I see 99 > 70 > 50 > 30 > 10 > dead..... just like that... bam next mob please. Or if Crits go off which happens a lot with my wizzies, its 99 30 dead or just 99 then dead...
Warl0ck45
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as with any group, it entirely depends on what you want to accomplish. I always advise folks to play what they like, as getting some enjoyment along the road will keep you playing long after X thing made it hard.
I have played every class in EQ, and have a top level/nearly maxed of every lass except BL. They all have their positive and negative aspects. Personally with your combo, I prefer a Shaman/SK, since you can always pop a cleric merc. But a cleric toon bring a LOT more to the tank and makes it well worth the effort. I would think, since you have the meatshield, and something to keep the meatshield up, you would shoot for either a DPS or Utility class... depending on your preferences.
Depending on how far up the level chain you want to go here, mercs SUCK as you get higher in level, even with the gear you can buy for them. They are great, if you can not fill the rest of the group or need X class in a pinch... but they flat do not compare to a (relatively speaking) live toon. That being said, DPS/tank mercs are decent enough at what they do but deteriorate someplace in the 95-100 range, and get worse 100+
That being said, you an go with a utility toon and 2-3 DPS mercs for decent enough damage, if you are not planning on topping out in levels. Otherwise I would recommend a DPS class of some sort for your third slot.
And again, with that on the table... if you do not plan to level past 100, I would make some FTP accounts and level them up. As Raz can attest, if you max the level on your FTP accounts, then get them a krono or pay for a 1 month sub, the autogrant will pump up their AA ( plus what ever you gain for that 1 month) then you end up with a FTP account thats better then a merc... especially since you can better tune it's behavior!
I have played every class in EQ, and have a top level/nearly maxed of every lass except BL. They all have their positive and negative aspects. Personally with your combo, I prefer a Shaman/SK, since you can always pop a cleric merc. But a cleric toon bring a LOT more to the tank and makes it well worth the effort. I would think, since you have the meatshield, and something to keep the meatshield up, you would shoot for either a DPS or Utility class... depending on your preferences.
Depending on how far up the level chain you want to go here, mercs SUCK as you get higher in level, even with the gear you can buy for them. They are great, if you can not fill the rest of the group or need X class in a pinch... but they flat do not compare to a (relatively speaking) live toon. That being said, DPS/tank mercs are decent enough at what they do but deteriorate someplace in the 95-100 range, and get worse 100+
That being said, you an go with a utility toon and 2-3 DPS mercs for decent enough damage, if you are not planning on topping out in levels. Otherwise I would recommend a DPS class of some sort for your third slot.
And again, with that on the table... if you do not plan to level past 100, I would make some FTP accounts and level them up. As Raz can attest, if you max the level on your FTP accounts, then get them a krono or pay for a 1 month sub, the autogrant will pump up their AA ( plus what ever you gain for that 1 month) then you end up with a FTP account thats better then a merc... especially since you can better tune it's behavior!
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Can't argue with success.
Depends on what you want to do and how many accounts you are willing to use, FTP or not. I use to box using 12 computers and a whole lotta hardware. It was odd when people visited me. Now I just use one laptop and a second screen and have 13 accounts. Not looking to do more than that.
I like groups within groups. Wizards are the best DPS, but rangers aren't bad either and can fracture off to be a tank (able to grab agro) for lower end stuff if you want to start running multiple groups using mercs to fill out.
I like groups within groups. Wizards are the best DPS, but rangers aren't bad either and can fracture off to be a tank (able to grab agro) for lower end stuff if you want to start running multiple groups using mercs to fill out.
I am am trying out Raz's war,cler,enc,3Xwiz, and stuff does melt quick with AFnuke mac. Thanks Raz!.
I had a 95 warrior and 100 ench, and made 3 HC wizzies and 1 Cleric. So the group composition is 95,85,100,85,85,85. I have run them through the lower HoT and grounds but since there is a lvl 100 the going is slow. Unfortunately that is the only tank I have and might be overwelmed at THE BEACH. I guess I could use a Maxed AA mage wiz but it would be slow going it think.
I had a 95 warrior and 100 ench, and made 3 HC wizzies and 1 Cleric. So the group composition is 95,85,100,85,85,85. I have run them through the lower HoT and grounds but since there is a lvl 100 the going is slow. Unfortunately that is the only tank I have and might be overwelmed at THE BEACH. I guess I could use a Maxed AA mage wiz but it would be slow going it think.