Problem - Bard mezz/Pulling

[Bregan]

I've been trying to avoid asking too many questions as a beginner, but after 10 wipes, I figured it was time. My bard is not mezzing at all. Right now, I'm in Dranik's Scar. My team is a SHD, SHM, BRD, BER, BER, BST and is level 45. Most everything cons blue or light blue. I have all of the available CWTN plugins for this team. I typically pull with the SHD, using mode 5. I reviewed the KissAssist Mez section and this part is all I can see that my be wrong: "Kissassist will single target mez all adds up to the #Mob count indicated in your MezAESpell tag. Once the add count gets to the #Mob count it will use your AE spell. " I don't have an AE mez yet, so could that be the reason its not working? There is a placeholder there for the AE, which does give me errors. I plan on removing that line entirely, but wanted to post this before i wipe again. I got the ini here from the site and adjusted some of the twists.

Also, I did try pulling with the bard, but he will often med till (medstop,) and just sit there forever. I tried turning off med, but that didn't help either.

EDIT: It looks like removing that line did work to a degree. I see her attempting to mez, but the cast bar flips between the mez and the combat twist, as if its getting interrupted. Can see in the screenshot.

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=2 3
TwistWhat=1 2 3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=350
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=20
MedStop=75
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=1
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|46|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=4 5 6
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=35
MezMaxLevel=53
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Sionachie's Dreams
MezAESpell=Your AE Mezz Spell|3
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
[Burn]
BurnSize=5
BurnAllNamed=1
UseTribute=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Spells]
Gem1=Selo's Accelerando
Gem2=Cassindra's Chorus of Clarity
Gem3=Cantata of Soothing
Gem4=Katta's Song of Sword Dancing
Gem5=Vilia's Verses of Celerity
Gem6=Psalm of Purity
Gem7=Selo's Consonant Chant
Gem8=Sionachie's Dreams
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=5
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Selo's Consonant Chain|85
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
Aggro2nd=0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=100
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=100
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullTwistOn=1
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE

 

[RYN227]

There is a similar thread over here:

Problem - - Bard Mezzing | RedGuides: EverQuest Multi-boxing Community

It looks like the issue is with MQ2Melee=1 in your KA ini. I don't use MQ2Melee and my bard mezzes just fine. Give it a shot and see if it works.

 

[RYN227]

Disregard this dannet suggestion in this reply, I just looked at the ini you posted and you aren't using dannet... sorry.

If you get your bard mezzing and you use dannet, you'll notice your bard isn't broadcasting the mez attempts...

Look here for the fix: Plugin - - MQ2DanNet | Page 7 | RedGuides: EverQuest Multi-boxing Community

 

[arander]

could be the spell
what level is ur bard? that the highest mezz it has?

 

[Amarth]

could be the spell
what level is ur bard? that the highest mezz it has?

Sionachie's Dreams

BRD/40

1: Mesmerize (1/53) 2: Decrease Magic Resist by 1 (L40) to 20 (L115)

yes, it's the highest spell.

Level 46 bard. next upgrade is @ 53 (song of twilight)

 

[Bregan]

could be the spell
what level is ur bard? that the highest mezz it has?

Yes, it mezzes up to level 53 mobs... im 48 and these are blue and light blue mobs. I saw one success. I'm not using MQ2DanNet, unless it enabled by default. I'm still figuring stuff out, but I think blue mobs are below my level, so it shouldn't be a level issue?

 

[Amarth]

*snip snip*

your first AE mez is at 85, so i doubt that is why it's breaking. How many mobs do you usually get per pull?
Also, I think the issue is with twist. I'm trying to do stuff with me and a merc rogue with a 50 bard, which is close enough.
Selo's is failing to cast, with similar conditions here. Song bar fills to _ full and then ends, without actually casting.

 

[Bregan]

your first AE mez is at 85, so i doubt that is why it's breaking. How many mobs do you usually get per pull?
Also, I think the issue is with twist. I'm trying to do stuff with me and a merc rogue with a 50 bard, which is close enough.
Selo's is failing to cast, with similar conditions here. Song bar fills to _ full and then ends, without actually casting.

The mob count varies... on occasion, my puller runs off all the way across the zone because he is too tiny to get up some stairs (finally fixed that,) so I would get a bunch and thats when i noticed it.

Yes, it does seem to be surrounding twist, as i see him attempt to cast it, then its interrupted, he twists, thats interrupted, and so on.

 

[an_image]

I love bards, and haven't figured them out or tried mezzing with them yet. That being said, i run both a bard and enchantress of my one of my teams configurations with mages and it is fan-frigging-tastic.

Also side note/infomercial Chat and Sic are developing and have their enchanter plugin in beta for free. It works amazingly (specially after you disable chaotic). It works so well in fact I'm in the process of rolling a second bard and enchantres on side accounts for my second team.

 

[Bregan]

I've been considering swapping the Bard out for my Enchanter, but that kind of breaks up my melee/caster teams :P, and i know that bards are supposedly better for melee teams. When is MQ2Bard coming out?!

 

[Szazor]

Are your casting skills maxxed? If a bard doesnt have max skills he often tries to cast, but fails and it could look like what your experiencing.

 

[Branson24]

When my team was around that level I felt like my bard was slacking as well. when I dove in, he was actually doing his job but I couldn’t tell. Try pulling 2 mobs manually with the SK, if the bard mezzes 1, he is doing his job and your settings are correct. Now pull 3, bard should me 2. Remember, it’s single target so it takes him a moment and he could get aggro from other mobs in the process. My bard now is 71 and if I pull too many, he just cant get them all and we wipe. Also, I have mq2melee off on my bard, I’m not sure if it makes a difference or not though.

 

[Bregan]

The mob count varies... on occasion, my puller runs off all the way across the zone because he is too tiny to get up some stairs (finally fixed that,) so I would get a bunch and thats when i noticed it.

Yes, it does seem to be surrounding twist, as i see him attempt to cast it, then its interrupted, he twists, thats interrupted, and so on.

He's been with the group since I started it, so I don't know... i would think he would be more successful than that. I'll check next time I have him on... trying out the enchanter on my melee team at the moment. Its going well. Its nice to have a full team with CWTN plugins!

 

[Bregan]

Are your casting skills maxxed? If a bard doesnt have max skills he often tries to cast, but fails and it could look like what your experiencing.

I think this was the issue.... turns out, my wind instruments is only at level 28!

 

[Mammux]

Yeah, I have had trouble raising the wind instruments skill as well. I even set up a macro that just played a low level wind instruments song overnight, but it didn't raise the skill a single time if I remember correctly.

 

[Bregan]

Yeah, I have had trouble raising the wind instruments skill as well. I even set up a macro that just played a low level wind instruments song overnight, but it didn't raise the skill a single time if I remember correctly.

I got it to 130+ or so, relatively quickly, by just putting in a wind spell during my out of combat twist. I think you need an instrument (held, or on defiant gear) to effectively raise it.