Problem - bard doesn't chain pull....

vanemon · Dec 14, 2016

maybe someone can point me to the right way.... i don't know, why my bard isn't chain-pulling. when mob in camp gets to 50% i see the message in mq2 window: CastRadius is now set to:200, but he doesnt go out and pull - well he does, but just when mob is dead...
my ini:

[General]
KissAssistVer=9.1.5
Role=Puller
CampRadius=25
CampRadiusExceed=300
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=12
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=4
TwistWhat=4
CastingInterruptOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|94
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Aura of the Composer Rk. II|Aura
Buffs2=Selo's Sonata
Buffs3=Bloodfiend`s Throat Gem
Buffs4=Eyepatch of Plunder
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=20
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=50
AutoFireOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=1 6 9 10
UseMQ2Melee=1
StickHow=loose
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=5
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=Blade of Vesagran
DPS4=Selo's Kick|90
DPS5=Bladed Song|85
DPS6=Rapier of Somber Notes|75
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Boastful Bellow
MaxRadius=2000
MaxZRange=200
BuffWait=30
PullTwistOn=1
PullWait=3
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=50
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=60
MezMaxLevel=98
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Slumber of Kolain
MezAESpell=Slumber of Kolain|3
[Burn]
BurnText=rasch
Burn1=Funeral Dirge
Burn2=Song of Stone
Burn3=Fundament: Second Spire of the Minstrel
Burn4=Cacophony
Burn5=Quick Time
Burn6=Fierce Eye
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=1
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=80
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

thanks a lot for your help!

LamahHerder · Dec 17, 2016

Here is my 95 bard that chain pulls.... yes there are some glitches and he does not chain pull perfectly but he does start the next pull before the mob dies
As he is geared really badly he would die periodically when getting back to camp so I switched to using slow for pull rather than boastful

Rich (BB code):

[General]
KissAssistVer=9.1.4
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=500
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=30
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=2
CastingInterruptOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=11
TwistWhat=12 11
CharInfo=Bard|96
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Aura of the Composer|Aura
Buffs2=Selo's Sonata|Ma
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezStopHPs=85
MezRadius=60
MezMinLevel=50
MezMaxLevel=98
MezSpell=Slumber of Kolain
MezAESpell=Wave of Dreams|4
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=60
StickHow=!front
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=3 4 5 6 7
[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Requiem of Time
|PullWith=Boastful Bellow
MaxRadius=700
MaxZRange=250
PullWait=5
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=40
ChainPullPause=15|1
PullLevel=0|0
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=Selo's Assonant Strain|3
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Banestrike|80
DPS2=Breastplate of Vesagran|90
DPS3=Pests of the Piper|95|Once
DPS4=Selo's Kick|90
DPS5=Bladed Song|90
DPS6=Cacophony|90
DPS7=Lyrical Prankster|90
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Thousand Blades
Burn2=Dance of Blades
Burn3=Shield of Notes
Burn4=Song of Stone
Burn5=Quick Time
Burn6=Funeral Dirge
Burn7=Fierce Eye
Burn8=Fundament: First Spire of the Minstrels
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

ctaylor22 · Dec 17, 2016

Guy's it is better to have your puller pull while the mobs HP is higher than lower I use ChainPullHP=90. There is a reason for this. Number 1, what you want to do is get back to camp while the mob you left is still alive and kicking. That way your puller will re-engage that mob and your mezzer will mez the incoming mob. Now since you are pulling with your mezzer, I can see why you would wait for the current mob to be at a lower HP.

You may want to visit this old post for more of an explanation of how the Chain pull logic works and why the chain puller isn't pulling like you think they should.

http://www.redguides.com/community/showthread.php/45998-More-Chain-Pulling-Issues?p=292087&viewfull=1#post292087

LamahHerder · Dec 19, 2016

ctaylor22 said:
Guy's it is better to have your puller pull while the mobs HP is higher than lower I use ChainPullHP=90. There is a reason for this. Number 1, what you want to do is get back to camp while the mob you left is still alive and kicking. That way your puller will re-engage that mob and your mezzer will mez the incoming mob. Now since you are pulling with your mezzer, I can see why you would wait for the current mob to be at a lower HP.

You may want to visit this old post for more of an explanation of how the Chain pull logic works and why the chain puller isn't pulling like you think they should.

http://www.redguides.com/community/showthread.php/45998-More-Chain-Pulling-Issues?p=292087&viewfull=1#post292087

Yea I tweak the pullHP depending on the camp... I like to get back to camp with about 10% hp or less left on the mob that is being fought.

vanemon · Dec 20, 2016

i will try this as soon i get home from work;-)

vanemon · Dec 24, 2016

didn't work for me sadly

ctaylor22 · Dec 26, 2016

vanemon said:
didn't work for me sadly

Have you tried the latest release of KA?

vanemon · Dec 26, 2016

i downloaded already, but so far not installed - will try asap...

TAR · Dec 30, 2016

Same thing with me on my Monk.

LamahHerder · Dec 30, 2016

TAR said:
Same thing with me on my Monk.

Monk role is set to puller?

I wonder for vanemon if the issue is pulltwist or his dps section not firing properly (you are missing HP on dps1)

Try to set dps=0 and see if it chain pulls

ctaylor22 · Jan 7, 2017

LamahHerder, Try 9.1.8 and repost your ini please. Could also use a Debug dump when the monk is not pulling when they should.

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