Problem - Bard burning through endurance

[Ordell]

I'm using Maskoi's 105 bard INI for KA but this guy is running down his endurance in record time. I'm at a loss to figure it out. I turned off his AA DPS and just use spells. I'm at a loss to figure out what is causing him to burn through endurance so fast. Granted he is low on AA and undergeared but endurance shouldn't run down like this. If anyone who plays a bard can help me identify the offending skill I'd appeciate it.

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.001
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=9
TwistWhat=3 4 5 7 9
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=20
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0|98
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|109|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Selo's Sonata|me
Buffs2=Aura of Sionachie|Aura
Buffs3=Rallying Call|endgroup|25
Buffs4=Dichotomic Psalm|managroup|60
Buffs5=Rallying Call|end|25
Buffs6=Tune Stuck in Your Head
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=5
BuffsSize=20
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=Continuous
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
[AE]
AEOn=1
AERadius=40
AE1=Vainglorious Shout|1|Single
AE2=Burn|5
AESize=10
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSize=2
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Selo's Kick|93
DPS2=Lyrical Prankster|95
DPS3=

DebuffAllOn=0

DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
AggroSize=5
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=60
MezMaxLevel=108
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Slumber of Silisia
MezAESpell=Wave of Torpor|3
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=1
BurnSize=8
Burn1=Funeral Dirge|Mob
Burn2=Song of Stone|mob
Burn3=Fundament: Third Spire of the Minstrels|Me
Burn4=Cacophony|Mob
Burn5=Quick Time|Me
Burn6=Fierce Eye|Me
Burn7=Bladed Song|Mob
Burn8=Boastful Bellow|95
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
UseTribute=0
[MySpells]
Gem1=Slumber of Silisia
Gem2=Wave of Torpor
Gem3=Aria of Maetanrus
Gem4=War March of Jocelyn
Gem5=Fjilnauk's Spiteful Lyric
Gem6=Arcane Melody
Gem7=Fjilnauk's Song of Suffering
Gem8=Nilsara's Chant of Flame
Gem9=Pulse of Sionachie
Gem10=Dichotomic Psalm
Gem11=Fermata of Preservation Rk. II
Gem12=Aura of Maetanrus
Gem13=NULL

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
XTarHealList=NULL
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE

 

[Billy2Shoes]

Vainglorious Shout if your multi-pulling and killing fast. Also check your MQ2melee settings and take of Boastful bellow if it is on.

 

[Sic]

Can confirm, there was an earlier thread about Vainglorious Shout and Boastful Bellow being changed and causing bard's to oom very easily

 

[Ordell]

Can confirm, there was an earlier thread about Vainglorious Shout and Boastful Bellow being changed and causing bard's to oom very easily

Did you mean lose endurance? I dont OOM I lose endurance like mad.

Either way, I removed Vainglorious from the DPS section of the INI. Boastful is off in melee.

Just tried it with MQ2Melee off and no luck, still ran end down to 0.

 

[jsantoli]

boastful bellow and fast pulls causes my bard to go out of endurance quickly

 

[eqtrader74]

This is your drain at -5000 endurance everytime you have only one mob in camp and Vainglorious is off CD (12 secs):

AE1=Vainglorious Shout|1|Single

Some of the older ini's will spam Boastful/Vainglorious (the AE version of Boastful) but Daybreak changed them to huge endurance drains awhile back. I'd restrict their usage in your DPS/AE section with conditions. They have big dmg hits if you let them run the full 18 seconds, so ideally don't reapply until buff is gone from mob.

Boastful Bellow - Great debuff and dmg if it stays on for 18 seconds, but it costs 3000 endurance now (at AA rank 44.) I find my bard is constantly out of endurance if I leave it in DPS or AE(Single). I run it in Burn only, but I'm planning to add a EQBC hotkey to my tank's setup to request it on current target for the resist debuff or for high HP mobs like HS golems.

My 110 bard ini which is still using RoS stuff, not TBL, is set to run Boastful on Nameds and refresh it after the 18 second debuff wears off. I don't use Vainglorious since I'm mezzing:

DPS10=Boastful Bellow|98|Mob|Cond3

Cond3=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}

Burn5=Boastful Bellow|Mob

The other big endurance usage would be Dicho Psalm or Dissident Psalm. These are great for group mana/endur regen and nice extra group Burn DPS or AE large pulls.

While it won't solve all endurance issues, you should also add Rally Solo to your Buffs. It's the bard's self-only mana/endur regen AA and doesn't have a casting cost like Rally Call.

Buffs5=Rallying Call|managroup|20
Buffs6=Rallying Solo|end|15
Buffs7=Rallying Call|endgroup|10

More great Bard info in this 110 song selection post and these bard ini tips.

 

[Ordell]

This is your drain at -5000 endurance everytime you have only one mob in camp and Vainglorious is off CD (12 secs):

AE1=Vainglorious Shout|1|Single

Sumbitch, I missed it. Thank you eagle eyes, INI corrected.

Update: he's run for hours now with minimal endurance depletion. Thanks again. Now that I've gotten him to 110 I will switch to a new INI. I'll look at yours first.