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Question - Aradune Boxer's Club
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* awaits for kaen to do victory laps at the 50% right *
2 Different servers for 2 very different types of players. Leveling accounts on Rizlona isn't like it is on Aradune. You can level way more here and the market is entirely different.
Yeah, you aren't kidding. And as someone that was doing very, very well on truebox with just a 6 box, i'm kinda screwed. Guess I'm done! lol. Unless I want to be miserable on Aradune. No thanks..
I don't understand why they decimated boxing like that...throw the baby out with the bath water. Not everyone was running VMs and boxing a raid on one computer, only 2 or 3 people were. On Mangler, that is. (With MQ2 / Other things they shouldn't have access to) I can't justify playing on Rizlona or Aradune at this point after doing the TLP thing like 5-6 times now on the past servers. Ever since Coirnav, MQ2 became a big problem on Truebox. Ah well. Couldn't last forever. Having a 0.000000001% of the playerbase with an unfair advantage is just brutal when there is so much money at stake.
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Thought you couldn't have mq2 on aradune? What people editing the code or compiling their own versions like the old days?
- I 12 box on riz and it's still very profitable? I`m close to taking down naggy and vox with just my 12 box lol - But me and another 12 boxer do pretty much everything.
- I 12 box on riz and it's still very profitable? I`m close to taking down naggy and vox with just my 12 box lol - But me and another 12 boxer do pretty much everything.
no
mq2 does not work on truebox servers
well its not mq2
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If you know something you'd be wise to let eqmule know what it is
So to chime in a little here, there are cracked versions of MQ2 out there. There are groups of people who kept updating their own versions of it. Software can be cracked even its its paid for access. Look at Microsoft Office for example. Reporting it to Eqmule doesn't do much since people can just keep updating their own version if they know what they are doing.
If these people are apart of other site or us here could they be banned for it sure. But prove who in game is who on here. Unless its like Rizlona TLP where tons of us came together to play together and we're on forums and in Discord with same names its hard to say who is who without that.
If these people are apart of other site or us here could they be banned for it sure. But prove who in game is who on here. Unless its like Rizlona TLP where tons of us came together to play together and we're on forums and in Discord with same names its hard to say who is who without that.
RedGuides ditched the TrueBox version of Very Vanilla under the assumption that it would keep this community safe.
When I read about long time members getting warned and suspended for actively playing their 6 box crew on normal servers, and then I hear reports of rampant MQ2 use on Aradune, I feel like we got played.
When I read about long time members getting warned and suspended for actively playing their 6 box crew on normal servers, and then I hear reports of rampant MQ2 use on Aradune, I feel like we got played.
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If you think Eqmule coding and fixing MQ2 to stop people from using on TLP is a 100% flawless solution. You are wrong my friend. Microsoft has thousands of people trying to prevent cracked version of their software but it still never stopped. I understand what you're saying though Spiken I just hope you realize code can be manipulated. As you just said its not hard to make a bot. It's also not hard to crack a program if you know what you're doing.
Do you really think people who get MQ2 working on truebox will share it? The calculus is simple: will you get more money selling krono to hundreds of people for jacked up prices, or will you sell your cracked MQ2 to the handful of people willing to pay for it? Even if you sell it to the entirety of the MQ2 community, you still won't be able to match the EQ community at large willing to repeatedly buy kronos -- you cash in on the microtransaction phenomenon.
But that's not even the point that Redbot was making. The point he was making was that people are getting banned on live servers. RG/mule agreed to stop providing truebox access to MQ2 users in the distribution channels with the expected understanding that DPG would be more lenient on people on live servers. The largest distributions channels have stopped providing truebox builds, but the rate of banning/suspensions on live servers remains the same (including the infrequent ban waves that have always happened). The "deal" is demonstrably false (and I definitely question whether both parties had the same understanding).
But that's not even the point that Redbot was making. The point he was making was that people are getting banned on live servers. RG/mule agreed to stop providing truebox access to MQ2 users in the distribution channels with the expected understanding that DPG would be more lenient on people on live servers. The largest distributions channels have stopped providing truebox builds, but the rate of banning/suspensions on live servers remains the same (including the infrequent ban waves that have always happened). The "deal" is demonstrably false (and I definitely question whether both parties had the same understanding).
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Just play on Rizlona. I don't understand how the benefit of boxing on Aradune out ways the risk of a ban. I'm still new to Red Guides and boxing in general so I'm still learning my way. But in my limited experience, boxing is looked down on even on the Live servers. I tried it on Drinal for a while and along with the toxic chat in the general channels I noticed a lot of single players standing nearby watching my team work, I assume trying to determine if I'm afk or not. On Rizlona people run up and buff my team. I've received nothing but encouragement, and it's a joy to see other teams running around. Rizlona is the place to be, at least for me.
Heh, I don't see disagreement here.
Abyss does something else, not MQ2. I've played around with it (after being made aware of its existence) and it's nowhere near as sophisticated, but it's okay. There are definitely people doing better automation on aradune, especially the people who are dominating cash camps. It's died down a bit because krono sells better at launch, but it'll pick back up at expansion releases.
I can tell you 100% that there are cracked versions of MQ2 out there..it was rampant on phinigel for a very long time, and all the other truebox TLP's, as well as aradune. People are reverse engineering eqmule's fixes for it using assembly software. I know this because I know of multiple people who were doing it. they didnt share it with others, just kept it for themselves..but they were literally just finding the "fixes" in the mq2main file and IC file, replacing them and they had working MQ2.
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The thing here is this, we're on a level 2 access subforum for RedGuides and not in an official Darkpaw forum so there is no rule about "naming and shaming" AFAIK. If someone has a clear video of a group of characters on a true box server using MQ2 defining features like stick it'd be proof positive. Shady characters using some other scripting programs or hiring a crew of sweatshop players in a third world country to run the accounts and claiming to use a hacked version of MQ2 doesn't hold up for me.
After all, what sounds more l33t and correspondingly less accessible than claiming to have hacked MQ2?
After all, what sounds more l33t and correspondingly less accessible than claiming to have hacked MQ2?
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cause Darkpaw have cooties and therefore couldnt get an account here? sounds legit.......
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Ehh no, on the official forums you'll get some dumbass linking a video of a group of character lackadaisically getting into position around a mob, puller running off into lava and dying etc and claim it's proof of KissAssist. Those posts get deleted and the poster gets a suspension.
I mean that if you're in here you know damned well how it looks when you're using MQ2 and the various plugins so I'd presume if someone has found such a group on a true box server and video'd it they'd put it out here for us to see.
I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm saying that I'm skeptical of friend of a friend claims
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pretty sure moderators as well as all members prefer you don't post peoples account (toon names) or videos on them
that's what i was referring to
as far as reporting its usually a high chance that if someone reports u, its another user that u either are taking a camp he wants, or doesn't like u
Easy YouTube search brings up this gem from mangler server. A year ago. Honestly I think their truebox bypass is worth more than their truebox mq2.
I heard they used 70 or 80 level 1 accounts during free to play time to keep 8 picks of sirens grotto open for their level 65 groups to afk farm in.
I know we saw this program on coirnav when we came into sirens grotto at 3am. It's been growing in usage ever since but I stopped caring after months of reporting them with video cause all they did was afk camps and warp everywhere. Daybreak didn't care at all.
There's also a great plane of hate video but it's short. The solb video is the most detailed clear use of mq2 that is out there for any recent TLPs.
I heard they used 70 or 80 level 1 accounts during free to play time to keep 8 picks of sirens grotto open for their level 65 groups to afk farm in.
I know we saw this program on coirnav when we came into sirens grotto at 3am. It's been growing in usage ever since but I stopped caring after months of reporting them with video cause all they did was afk camps and warp everywhere. Daybreak didn't care at all.
There's also a great plane of hate video but it's short. The solb video is the most detailed clear use of mq2 that is out there for any recent TLPs.
That.... is a very bad analogy. "Man, I haven't seen your face, so you must not be a human. It's the same as bigfoot, totally." One thing is very plausible (people have MQ2 on truebox, you are a human) and one is not (bigfoot exists). Do you see why that's a bad comparison?
I am 100% sure MQ2 exists on truebox, there is no doubt in my mind. I'm not going to say that I know people who have it because I'm not willing to out people to back up that claim to win an internet argument, but....
It's also not super important, people will get it to work because there's a very large knowledge base. You can't prevent it from happening, no matter what kinds of protections you put in place -- the best you can do is discourage it. And in the end, taking steps to discourage it have not really paid off for this community (example: look at conversations like this, bans still happening on live, etc).
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do you really think the people that have their own versions of MQ are going to be here talking about it, or sharing it? no. and its entirely possibly that their versions dont have some of the plugins available to redguides/mmo (such as nav.) There are absolutely versions of MQ being used on those servers, and no i dont use them.
What outcome do you expect? People get banned from here? What does that do? All I agreed to do is to not distribute it, and that's it. People aren't getting it from here, so RG is powerless to stop it.