Request - XTarHeal assistance

[gyan1010]

I hate having to turn this on and off in the ini and reload the heals section because some brain-dead short-sighted slacker dev decided the best thing would be to have the default setting make your healer try and heal targets on auto-hater slots. Why isn't there just an easy option to turn off or on healing on slots set to auto-hate? If that cannot be done can we just get ingame commands like /XTarHeal 0 or /XTarHealList #|#|#|# so we don't have to keep changing the ini.

 

[ctaylor22]

Did you ever pay attention to the message you keep getting everytime you started the macro?

I think it goes something like this: /echo XTarget ${XTarToHeal[${n}]} is assigned as Auto Hater. You may want to fix this.

Hmmm...

 

[Lemons]

I hate having to turn this on and off in the ini and reload the heals section because some brain-dead short-sighted slacker dev decided the best thing would be to have the default setting make your healer try and heal targets on auto-hater slots. Why isn't there just an easy option to turn off or on healing on slots set to auto-hate? If that cannot be done can we just get ingame commands like /XTarHeal 0 or /XTarHealList #|#|#|# so we don't have to keep changing the ini.

I understand you're frustrated, but keep personal attacks out of it.

 

[gyan1010]

Did you ever pay attention to the message you keep getting everytime you started the macro?

I think it goes something like this: /echo XTarget ${XTarToHeal[${n}]} is assigned as Auto Hater. You may want to fix this.

Hmmm...

Yeah I did, it goes by way too fast for anyone to see without scrolling up which is another poor design issue though. Maybe you should save warnings and important info to display after the spam, but yeah I caught it. That is not the point though. Why is this the default behavior? Why is there no option to just take these targets out of the heals and leave things I set like group tank or current target? Why are there no in-game commands to change these settings?

A warning buried in spam is not a solution. It is not even a workaround. It's like me calling about a fire and the person that answers saying "Yeah, but did you pay attention to the alarms going off when the fire started? I think it goes something like BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! Hmmm..."

 

[Hylander]

Can I speak to the Manager ?

 

[gyan1010]

Apparently, describing my level of frustration with the design decisions is considered harassment in these times. Sorry to offend but how about the changes mentioned or an argument against them?

 

[Ladon]

Your level of frustration is unwarranted and insulting people right out the gate is not going to win you any favors. You're welcome to develop your own macro or recommend changes by altering the code and posting it so that other people can benefit.

The author already told you how to fix your problem.

 

[gyan1010]

Your level of frustration is unwarranted and not going to win you any favors. You're welcome to develop your own macro or recommend changes by altering the code and posting it so that other people can benefit.

The author already told you how to fix your problem.

First, no they didn't tell me how to fix anything. The problem is there is no way to either avoid healing the slots set to auto-hate, or toggle the xtarheal flag from in game without editing the in. There was no solution to that offered.

Second, it's none of your business how frustrated something makes me, and I'm not looking for "favors". I think the options I mentioned make logical sense and if someone thinks they don't please describe why.

To summarize the changes I think are needed. The default XTarHeal=1 should not include any xtarget that is set to auto-hate. There should be an additional option to control if heals should target slots set to auto-hate. An alternative solution would be to have ingame commands to toggle XTarHeal without editing the ini, and another one to set the XTarHealList ingame.

 

[gyan1010]

If I have to make changes myself I can I suppose, but I've done this before when I wanted to change

/SetWinTitle ${Me.Name} (Lvl:${Me.Level} ${Zone.ShortName})

because no one asked you to change my title, the one that comes in zoned.cfg is a better title. However, it just gets over written every time it updates and I gotta change it again.

Is there a way to write a hook saved in a different file that could overwrite a sub with one I modify?

 

[Hylander]

configuration in my ini file looks like this

XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=11|12|13

hotbutton 1
/xt set 11 SoftTank
/xt set 12 RangerFeign
/xt set 13 DoughBoyCleric

hotbutton 2
/xt remove
/xt remove
/xt remove

 

[gyan1010]

configuration in my ini file looks like this

XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=11|12|13

hotbutton 1
/xt set 11 SoftTank
/xt set 12 RangerFeign
/xt set 13 DoughBoyCleric

hotbutton 2
/xt remove
/xt remove
/xt remove

How then do you make it not heal those slots once you remove the lists?

I only 2 box a monk druid now. Sometimes when I duo I want the xt clear so I can target and root or dot multiple targets as needed, other times I manually set xt to heal on raid situations. I only have 5 XT slots on TLP currently so I cant afford to set some far down the list as the heals and all the others auto. I need to be able to have them be able to swap from auto hate slots or selected heal slots, and not accidentally try to heal npcs when they are auto-hate just because I forgot to change the ini again.

 

[Sic]

How then do you make it not heal those slots once you remove the lists?

I only 2 box a monk druid now. Sometimes when I duo I want the xt clear so I can target and root or dot multiple targets as needed, other times I manually set xt to heal on raid situations. I only have 5 XT slots on TLP currently so I cant afford to set some far down the list as the heals and all the others auto. I need to be able to have them be able to swap from auto hate slots or selected heal slots, and not accidentally try to heal npcs when they are auto-hate just because I forgot to change the ini again.

kissassist allows you have use specific inis if you want to have setups for different scenarios

this might be your best option.

KissAssist - Read📖Guides

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Alternate ini files: You can also tell KissAssist to load an alternate ini file. If your wizard has a separate ini to use ice nukes instead of fire nukes or your tank wants to run a DPS setup on easier content, you can just save another ini file and load that instead of your defaults, e.g.

/mac kissassist ini kissassist_GyanDude_XTar.ini

this would make you load the one that you have settings to use the xtarget healing on

and then your regular load could be the one you dont

 

[gyan1010]

Well, *blush* I owe everyone listening to me rant an apology. I went to change the code myself and realized XTarHealList is not required for it to work and I heal exactly how I think it should if I just set it to NULL. Sorry everyone.

 

[ctaylor22]

@gyan1010 I don't and didn't take offence to your comments, but you can't imagine how often people make comments like this not being aware that there are different levels of setup/complications when it comes to kiss. Xtarget healing is an advanced feature of kiss and from the developers point of view. This functionality is provided for you as such. This functionality does NOT fall under the K.I.S.S. analogy and is provided as a feature that depends, more on the user than the developer to get it correct. I can see where it can be frustrating, to switch over to a cleric/healer and see the MQ2 window full of "SomeHealSpell interrupted. Target is an NPC" messages, and think what would it take to fix this. Well since this is K.I.S.S. The best thing for me to do is just add a couple of /beeps and end the macro telling you to fix the issue. Just remember you had to turn on this functionality to use it and if your just using someone else ini then spend some time to get familiar with the settings that control it. That way when you make changes to your setup in the EQ client, you understand how that will affect the changes you need to make in your ini file.

Even after I make change to the EQ client and forget to make changes to my clerics ini file. I come to the conclusion that I have know one to blame but myself, but not as the developer of kissassist, but as a user.

 

[Hylander]

i never remove the list, those slots 11,12, and 13 are always available if i put another tank etc in them. If i want the slots for other stuff, then i just remove the player names. The slots then return to normal