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Isnt test EQ down for a patch or recently patched? I dont think MQ has been rebuilt for it yet.. at least I havent seen RG's pull a new build yet..
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it is now, but only as of ~1h ago. It wasn't for the last week, which is when the problem was ... a problem
Now it's down, well, we will see, depends how they go about hooking up all the structs and functions. If they use last build, then it's worth knowing. If it's all from scratch, well, never mind.
Yes, I know they randomise the structs field orders and whatnot.
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Test is currently down due to patch Tuesday. Please be patient and possibly tip your friendly dev (just scroll up a tad).
What to expect on patch days?
When eq patches MQ has to be rebuilt. (you also have to patch EQ --- this way you avoid "Version Mismatch" issues)
once mq is built RG can build - we now have an automated system that rebuilds RG as soon as it is updated - which means our previous method of "let's give it a quick test" is no longer there, and sometimes there ends up being another smaller patch later to correct if something got missed - so re-check on patch days if you are having issues.
eq could change literally anything and it would require the way MQ interacts with that portion of EQ to be completely reworked. It is normally just offsets, sometimes struct changes --- with the large changes eq has been making over the past few months (updates and backend improvements) there are more things than just offset changes that are happening, so it can certainly be a lot of work for the devs.
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2nd* tue/wed = test "real" patch
3rd* wed = live patch
4th* tue/wed = test "true up
the tue over the wed is a more recent thing (I suspect klanderso has more to do with that, and having time to ensure working stuff before the weekend and upset people - klanderso is pretty awesome)
* holidays subject to cause shifts in days or even week
test is notorious for being like "oops we forgot the 'dont crash plz' file, gotta patch again", or "woops we added +1 to crashing, we meant -1", so "on paper" it is double the patches, but very frequently ends up being more than double the work (i imagine, I'm not doing the work - I'd love to learn enough at some point to help facilitate doing so, however)
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When eq patches MQ has to be rebuilt. (you also have to patch EQ --- this way you avoid "Version Mismatch" issues)
once mq is built RG can build - we now have an automated system that rebuilds RG as soon as it is updated - which means our previous method of "let's give it a quick test" is no longer there, and sometimes there ends up being another smaller patch later to correct if something got missed - so re-check on patch days if you are having issues.
eq could change literally anything and it would require the way MQ interacts with that portion of EQ to be completely reworked. It is normally just offsets, sometimes struct changes --- with the large changes eq has been making over the past few months (updates and backend improvements) there are more things than just offset changes that are happening, so it can certainly be a lot of work for the devs.
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EQ patches go like this: (in theory)
2nd* tue/wed = test "real" patch
3rd* wed = live patch
4th* tue/wed = test "true up
the tue over the wed is a more recent thing (I suspect klanderso has more to do with that, and having time to ensure working stuff before the weekend and upset people - klanderso is pretty awesome)
* holidays subject to cause shifts in days or even week
test is notorious for being like "oops we forgot the 'dont crash plz' file, gotta patch again", or "woops we added +1 to crashing, we meant -1", so "on paper" it is double the patches, but very frequently ends up being more than double the work (i imagine, I'm not doing the work - I'd love to learn enough at some point to help facilitate doing so, however)
Mq itself is open source and by volunteer(s) - RG which builds and distributes that is obviously paid for.
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brainiac:
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I've found that it's often the following Saturday night after the patch. Sometimes sooner or later, but Saturday night seems somewhat average.
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So with the new update, whenever MQ is loaded, keypress(alt)+(anyletter) reverts to stock window mode. Which is small box in the left hand corner.
I do however play windowed mode and everything was great before this last patch and MQ patch
I do however play windowed mode and everything was great before this last patch and MQ patch
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So the only way for me to change this is to change the key bindings on each character.
Ive restarted and tried again last night and still only happens with MQ on. Its just weird that that by pressing ALT+O (to bring up options window) will auto shrink the entire window to a little box in the upper left hand corner of the screen.
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for me, my windows are sized to the screen size so I don't change to a tiny window, but this is still happening - alt key triggers the window to change from maximised status to normal status.So the only way for me to change this is to change the key bindings on each character.
Ive restarted and tried again last night and still only happens with MQ on. Its just weird that that by pressing ALT+O (to bring up options window) will auto shrink the entire window to a little box in the upper left hand corner of the screen.
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oh, i didnt know that. it's interesting as without MQ loaded, the Alt+O function ingame is fine and doesnt resize the window. I am just at a loss for whats happening, but doing the keystroke change ingame will have to be the fix currently
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well, it's easier for me to talk about because I am a windows dev since the 90s so I know the terminology, and that makes a difference reporting an issue. That's not a failing in yourself or anyone else, it's just easier if someone knows "the right words" to use or can see what is happening in tech terms
and beyond that, well, MQ cares about what keys you press so it is intercepting them. All of them. So that's why, when you presss, A+B+C it has some response, potentially. The response here is accidental, and I'm sure they will fix it when they get to it. Yeah, I agree it's annoying, all my windows (in game) ie, chat, are wrongly positioned, and can't be used.
@brainiac pushed a fix for the live build, i think he has to do it for test as well
this is an eq bug
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In other news, I started back playing about 2/3 weeks ago. Got a Red sub straight away. Was able to get things going. I play on test only.
I've been having crashes VERY frequently. I mean, I can't get through a /grind sequence without 2 crashes of my 6box team. Zoning, setting up, moving thru a zone to get the quests necessary, I am lucky - LUCKY - if I get 3 mins without one of the boxes x'ing to desktop.
TBH I sorta thought "oh that's how it is", until just this week, when I realised, maybe it's a problem with the Test markups/hookups.
So I ran an experiement on live, ran a new 6box team, and whaddayaknow? shitloads less CTDs.
So, what do we do about the test issues? It's basically unplayable for me atm. I can't get through a fight without one of my 6 dropping, and then a couple mins wait due to shittiy not your fault EQ reload code.
Any other test player willing to fess up that it's this bad for you?
What can I do to actually help stop it happening and tie down the issues so it's playable?
TBH I have stopped playing due to this problem, I didn't realise it at first but it is the root cause.
I've been having crashes VERY frequently. I mean, I can't get through a /grind sequence without 2 crashes of my 6box team. Zoning, setting up, moving thru a zone to get the quests necessary, I am lucky - LUCKY - if I get 3 mins without one of the boxes x'ing to desktop.
TBH I sorta thought "oh that's how it is", until just this week, when I realised, maybe it's a problem with the Test markups/hookups.
So I ran an experiement on live, ran a new 6box team, and whaddayaknow? shitloads less CTDs.
So, what do we do about the test issues? It's basically unplayable for me atm. I can't get through a fight without one of my 6 dropping, and then a couple mins wait due to shittiy not your fault EQ reload code.
Any other test player willing to fess up that it's this bad for you?
What can I do to actually help stop it happening and tie down the issues so it's playable?
TBH I have stopped playing due to this problem, I didn't realise it at first but it is the root cause.
ah okay, our posts missed each other, let's hope that is the cause
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just to say, during this testing, I realised I am able to use your plugins, and although the Lua redmercs or whatever is good, the plugins are better
excellent work you guys! Playing on test I get them for free but having used them I would pay for them - and the price is about right I would say
Quote this where you would like Oh, only thing I would ask for is ... a bard basic function, so all toons are running the core functionality? and then don't block the Lua/script. So, core functions are there, but not advanced stuff. Maybe this wouldn't work due to overlap, Idk, but having one of the 6 be not a plugin and being the script is a pain.
okay will do, I had read the info, slows zoning and loading and so on. Will give it a go from now on
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Okay, new ui turned off on all of my boxes, will see how it runs for the next 24h+, thanks
Also, after playing and multiboxing for 25y, I saw advantage in your current layout, do you have any script or post about how to arrange it? I think focusing your eyes/viewpoints for changes, in the middle (ok at the bottom) and also being lucky to have a large monitor (I have my 4k using scaling) to let you use viewports seems very sensible even pusing past my 25y "muscle memory" of where to look. So I am up for giving your layout a try, if there is some quick and easy /load run luaplaces and so on? - changing even 6 boxes to have xyz setting for Lua script (A) is a pita, let alone a whole ui. And let alone the shitty eq ui - do you have the save settings available for that?
Should I repost this as a new thread?
Also, after playing and multiboxing for 25y, I saw advantage in your current layout, do you have any script or post about how to arrange it? I think focusing your eyes/viewpoints for changes, in the middle (ok at the bottom) and also being lucky to have a large monitor (I have my 4k using scaling) to let you use viewports seems very sensible even pusing past my 25y "muscle memory" of where to look. So I am up for giving your layout a try, if there is some quick and easy /load run luaplaces and so on?
- changing even 6 boxes to have xyz setting for Lua script (A) is a pita, let alone a whole ui. And let alone the shitty eq ui - do you have the save settings available for that?Should I repost this as a new thread?
It’s actually a bug in eq and nothing like this. See what i posted here: https://www.redguides.com/community...windowed-mode-to-the-right.91958/#post-622008well, it's easier for me to talk about because I am a windows dev since the 90s so I know the terminology, and that makes a difference reporting an issue. That's not a failing in yourself or anyone else, it's just easier if someone knows "the right words" to use or can see what is happening in tech terms
and beyond that, well, MQ cares about what keys you press so it is intercepting them. All of them. So that's why, when you presss, A+B+C it has some response, potentially. The response here is accidental, and I'm sure they will fix it when they get to it. Yeah, I agree it's annoying, all my windows (in game) ie, chat, are wrongly positioned, and can't be used.
I'll merge the changes over to the build for test today.
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Well, that's great news and typical of EQ to have such problems, but "nothing like this" ? it's a problem with the sys max code so .. kinda close to my guess with no looking at code, right?
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the slackers! - Thank goodness for folks like you and EQMule
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Thank you for all the input and help with fixing this.
It was causing me all sorts of issues! Ill wait for the update and give it a try this weekend
It was causing me all sorts of issues! Ill wait for the update and give it a try this weekend
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Works great now!Thank you for all the input and help with fixing this.
It was causing me all sorts of issues! Ill wait for the update and give it a try this weekend
Thanks guys
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New update has caused this issue again
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Hi all,
can anybody offer a hand please.
I recencently ( last week) returned to EQ and MQ after a break, reinstalled RG and MQ ( like the new MQ btw) patched EQ and played. no problems
Then about wednesday I tried to play again, and got the Patch Day - Unavailable message, but my MQ is up to date according to the launcher
Logged onto EQ manually and no problem ( thinking I needed to patch)
I got the missmatch message
as you can see, my MQ version is newer than my EQ version
RG launcher still saying the same thing, eq lets me in ( so there is no patch required there)
could any body offer any suggestions please
thanks in advance
can anybody offer a hand please.
I recencently ( last week) returned to EQ and MQ after a break, reinstalled RG and MQ ( like the new MQ btw) patched EQ and played. no problems
Then about wednesday I tried to play again, and got the Patch Day - Unavailable message, but my MQ is up to date according to the launcher
Logged onto EQ manually and no problem ( thinking I needed to patch)
I got the missmatch message
as you can see, my MQ version is newer than my EQ version
RG launcher still saying the same thing, eq lets me in ( so there is no patch required there)
could any body offer any suggestions please
thanks in advance
we will soon, just have to be patient. Complicating things They (eq) had patch their patch.
What to expect on patch days?
When eq patches MQ has to be rebuilt. (you also have to patch EQ --- this way you avoid "Version Mismatch" issues)
once mq is built RG can build - we now have an automated system that rebuilds RG as soon as it is updated - which means our previous method of "let's give it a quick test" is no longer there, and sometimes there ends up being another smaller patch later to correct if something got missed - so re-check on patch days if you are having issues.
eq could change literally anything and it would require the way MQ interacts with that portion of EQ to be completely reworked. It is normally just offsets, sometimes struct changes --- with the large changes eq has been making over the past few months (updates and backend improvements) there are more things than just offset changes that are happening, so it can certainly be a lot of work for the devs.
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EQ patches go like this: (in theory)
2nd* tue/wed = test "real" patch
3rd* wed = live patch
4th* tue/wed = test "true up
the tue over the wed is a more recent thing (I suspect klanderso has more to do with that, and having time to ensure working stuff before the weekend and upset people - klanderso is pretty awesome)
* holidays subject to cause shifts in days or even week
test is notorious for being like "oops we forgot the 'dont crash plz' file, gotta patch again", or "woops we added +1 to crashing, we meant -1", so "on paper" it is double the patches, but very frequently ends up being more than double the work (i imagine, I'm not doing the work - I'd love to learn enough at some point to help facilitate doing so, however)
Mq itself is open source and by volunteer(s) - RG which builds and distributes that is obviously paid for.
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EQ says July. MQ says June. That’s a month difference
oops your right lol, same day diff month
At this rate for the number of times this needs to be posted I almost wonder if we need a macro to post it right after someone asks the same question over and overWhat to expect on patch days?
When eq patches MQ has to be rebuilt. (you also have to patch EQ --- this way you avoid "Version Mismatch" issues)
once mq is built RG can build - we now have an automated system that rebuilds RG as soon as it is updated - which means our previous method of "let's give it a quick test" is no longer there, and sometimes there ends up being another smaller patch later to correct if something got missed - so re-check on patch days if you are having issues.
eq could change literally anything and it would require the way MQ interacts with that portion of EQ to be completely reworked. It is normally just offsets, sometimes struct changes --- with the large changes eq has been making over the past few months (updates and backend improvements) there are more things than just offset changes that are happening, so it can certainly be a lot of work for the devs.
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4th* tue/wed = test "true up
the tue over the wed is a more recent thing (I suspect klanderso has more to do with that, and having time to ensure working stuff before the weekend and upset people - klanderso is pretty awesome)
* holidays subject to cause shifts in days or even week
test is notorious for being like "oops we forgot the 'dont crash plz' file, gotta patch again", or "woops we added +1 to crashing, we meant -1", so "on paper" it is double the patches, but very frequently ends up being more than double the work (i imagine, I'm not doing the work - I'd love to learn enough at some point to help facilitate doing so, however)
Mq itself is open source and by volunteer(s) - RG which builds and distributes that is obviously paid for.
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brainiac:
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