Question - Trying to 4 box with KISS, 2/4 are working

[esseye]

So I've set up KISS and the updater, and I'm running on Test if any of these are relevant details.

I set up some very basic INIs just to test out in some easy areas to get things running. I have 2/4 of my characters working. The SK tanks, fires his pet up, does his buffs, lifetaps, etc. The shaman is healing properly. I also have a bard and a wizard. I can't get either of them to work though. Neither of them ever actually 'engage' -- they say they're assisting at 95, and I get an ATTACKING message, then nothing. The wizard will just sit there, the bard will circle around behind his opponent and switch to melee twist. Then they never attack.

I notice on the SK I get a MQ2Melee message when he attacks, and the bard I never get that message. On the shaman I get messages on every cast/heal/buff, nothing on the wizard beyond ATTACKING.

INIs:
Bard:
[General]
KissAssistVer=6.5
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=10
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=7
TwistWhat=3 5 6
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=behindonce
AutoFireOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 3 4
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=Min Mez Spell Level
MezMaxLevel=Max Mez Spell Level
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Your Mez Spell
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

Wizard:
[General]
KissAssistVer=6.5
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=35
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=1
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Icestrike
DPS2=Lightning Bolt
DPS3=Fire Bolt
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

 

[Maskoi]

The wizards problem is need health % values in the dps section. it needs to know what order to cast in. It goes from highest to lowest

DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Icestrike|90
DPS2=Lightning Bolt|80
DPS3=Fire Bolt|70

not sure what is going on with the bard that ini looks ok. Is your bard right near the tank when he engages?

also on the bard after starting the macro /debugcombat may give you some clue why he is not attacking.

 

[esseye]

He is, he circles around as you'd expect from "behindonce", and then just sits there playing music.

I'll give the debug a go and try the health %s.

- - - Updated - - -

Strange, debug doesn't tell me much. Can't figure out how to paste from the MQ window
[MQ2] ATTACKING -> Plaguebringer <-
[MQ2] Attack On
[MQ2] == Starting melee twist
[MQ2] CombatReset: Enter

Never actually attacked though.

- - - Updated - - -

No dice, Wizard still won't go with the updated INI either.

Updated wiz:
[General]
KissAssistVer=6.5
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=35
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=1
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Icestrike|90
DPS2=Lightning Bolt|75
DPS3=Fire Bolt|50
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

Tried a Magician too, won't summon a pet, buff, or dps.

magician ini:
[General]
KissAssistVer=6.5
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=45
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Phantom Chain
Buffs2=Major Shielding
Buffs3=Shield of Flame|MA
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Shock of Spikes|90
DPS2=Bolt of Flame|30
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Renew Summoning|65|Pet
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Summoning: Earth
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=1
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Burnout
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetToysOn=0
PetToys1=NULL
PetToys2=NULL
PetToys3=NULL
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToys7=NULL
PetToys8=NULL
PetToys9=NULL
PetToys10=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

 

[Maskoi]

that is really odd. The test compile is brand new might be a bug there. I will try to get some testing done this weekend to see if i can duplicate the issues. Are all of these toons grouped and have the sk as your MA?

How are you starting the toons with the macro?

 

[esseye]

I have the SK set with Role=Tank, so I just run /mac kissassist on him. For the rest I target him and then /mac kissassist - they all have Role=Assist.

I form the group after that with /invite, and then select the SK as main tank and main assist (don't know if the group flags are relevant or not)

- - - Updated - - -

I'm beginning to think it's something funny with the compile/plugins in general - I'm just doing some very basic things I think should work to test them, and getting no results.

Without loading kissassist, if I fire up MQ2, MQ2Posse, MQ2EQBC, MQ2Twist and some others load up. I can use MQ2EQBC fine. However, if I load say MQ2Cast manually, and then do something like /if (${Cast}) {/bc test} - I get no result. Also if I manually do /casting "Vampiric Embrace" -maxtries|2 it does nothing.

I see Plugin MQ2Cast loaded, but no further output from it.

- - - Updated - - -

Alright, so I seem to have figured it out. It was for some reason being /very/ picky about how I launch the game, and the order, etc. I have to load all 4 chars completely into the game before starting MQ2. If I do that, the plugins load/function normally. If for some reason I crash/etc, I have to completely close down all clients, kill MQ2, and sometimes reboot, and then start all of them again.

That said, all characters are working as expected now, so it wasn't a crazy macro/INI issue -- it's a funky MQ2/Windows 7 DLL loading issue.

 

[TAR]

When you have those issues, try /loadskin default and see if that fixes it without relogging or rebooting. Seems to happen to me from time to time as well, but a loadskin seems to fix most issues.

 

[asdflolmad]

One issue I seem to have is everyones role, and how things are setup in the actual game for roles. I find that sometimes if my main assist isn't assisting the tank, and everyone else assisting the main assist, they will just sit there. Just experiment with who you are targeting when you /assist.

 

[Maskoi]

Kiss was design to always assist the TANK. Tank always = Main Assist and has nothing to do with the group role.

 

[asdflolmad]

Nvm what I said then. Probably why I have issues. So even if its a merc tank, everyone should be assisting the merc...who assists the puller?

 

[Maskoi]

No one the tank will grab it as soon as its inside CampRadius. Same thing with the merc it will grab it as soon its in camp.