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EQChick

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I'm sure there are 100s of guides about how to be the best this, the best that; however, this community is full of the best players eq has to offer. Most of you have played, in some form or another, every class.
For some unknown reason.... I'm not the best player of my class in my guild. (I don't use mq when I raid - ok, slap me, but I want to do it for real). Is it because I can't click fast enough? Is it because I don't use the right spells? Help me! There's a little something, something I'm missing and I haven't learned it from boxing. Is my toon just not good enough, or is it me?
 
What class? Without parses/information the best anyone can tell you is gitgud.
 
I'm a cleric.

Oh you won't out parse a Shaman healing in a raid so if you are comparing to the superior healing (hehe) just don't! :) Jokes aside, I don't know how to play a Cleric. I let Chat play my Cleric and she does great!
 
I let Chat play my monk for raids and the only monk who regularly out parses me is another monk that I see around here (who has way better gear than I do). I don't know how to raid a cleric. If I had a raid cleric, I'd likely let Chat play him for me.
 
I can out parse a shaman. And I know how. I do it a lot. But, I can't out parse some other clerics.
Let me slide it to you all simple like... how do I do a target heal without putting that damn ring on the ground?
 
I can out parse a shaman. And I know how. I do it a lot. But, I can't out parse some other clerics.
Let me slide it to you all simple like... how do I do a target heal without putting that damn ring on the ground?

Then the topic changes, your SHMs need to learn how to heal!!! =) "Ring on the ground?" See I have no idea what this relates to.
 
Cleric ae heals are cast with a ring on the ground... unlike, shaman or paladins. (The key to parse healing)
We have great healers, the best.... I want to be better than the best. /shrug

So now I know, I guess what I'm asking is, how to do an ae cleric heal without clicking the ground. (It's a splash heal)
 
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Cleric ae heals are cast with a ring on the ground... unlike, shaman or paladins. (The key to parse healing)
We have great healers, the best.... I want to be better than the best. /shrug

So now I know, I guess what I'm asking is, how to do an ae cleric heal without clicking the ground. (It's a splash heal)
Without mq2 you need to place it, with mq2 hotbutton with tank targeted and /cast spellgemnumber
mq2 takes your targets position to place the splash at.
 
It sounds like you might be playing in 1st person view. The target ring for splash, and AE mezzes etc is really difficult to use really fast in 1st person, and only slightly easier to use in 3rd person, but the macro does it like magic.

Somethings are always going to better when you have a macro do it, and a splash heal is one of them.

Be an attentive cleric...and you will always have a spot in the tank grp. A Macro cant anticipate what's about to happen and when shit goes pear shaped the macro cant react the way a real player can.
Just get your self good gear and enjoy playing the game
 
Cleric is easy mode. load up your 3 remedy spells these are the .5. cast heals, in group content the promised line is next in a raid its less valuable. now you will want to load your 2 highest intervention spells by the time you finish casting the second intervention your first remedy will be coming off CD. lastly you want to load you group HoT and pre cast this or cast only to refresh, PBAoE splash for when the whole raid need an AoE heal, syllable to proc synergy, and your alliance spell if you are in a group with another cleric or shaman. If you havnt already max out all the focus tab aa's and your group celestial for MGB as you heal leader will call for. I prefer to constant cast on my raid tank rather then health wackamole thats more for group content.
 
To play cleric is simple.
Spell Lineup:
1. Composite
2: 115 remedy
3: 115 intervention
4: 110 remedy
5: 110 intervention
6: 105 remedy
7: Syllable
8: Word
9: DI
10: SB
11: Elixir
12&13: Buffs? Splash?

Bind 1-6 to 1 key, 7&8 to another key. Heal based on that. Keep DI&SB on tanks. Fall asleep. If your tanks don't die congratz, you played well. If they die then get better tanks. Sometimes click elixir on the raid if needed. Click burns proactively or reactively, doesn't matter, assuming all clerics are setup correctly and tanks don't suck you'll be fine. Start casting splash before big AEs go out and you top the heal parse. Never EVER stop casting. Worried about mana? Yaulp between casts. Clerics, in a raid scenario, barely go OOM. 2 beastlords + 1 mage solve that problem.

Honestly though, the heal parse doesn't matter much and unless there's a big discrepancy between you and the people above you then it just comes down to timing. If you do everything else correctly, just time stuff better. If there is that discrepancy, follow what I posted above. Just look at cast counts of all the other clerics and compare that way.
 
OMG! I do play in first person. Never really thought about that. Thanks ever so much for the help you guys! I am going to try that cast hot button @jande Thanks!
I know I shouldn't really worry about parses, but you know there's always that random person that like to blame everything on the healers. And @Killertoxin - yes, I am that wackamole healer.
 
@Killertoxin and @boxbuddy nailed it hard! Great info!

Commenting strictly on splash healing -- never waste more than a second or two trying to drop it. Just move on to other heals and come back to it later. Even little bumps on the ground can block it. Eventually you'll be in a better position and you can drop it then.
 
Shining Bastion (a dmg mitigation and heal pulse MT buff).
As it is a lvl 99 spell its used as a category word? 115 spell is Shining Aegis, which i do use of course. Or is there something to the lvl 99 version that the 115 version doesnt have?

I am asking because in other cases i do actually use lower level abilities becasue they got worse with higher levels. (for melees: Breather vs. Relax for example)
 
As it is a lvl 99 spell its used as a category word? 115 spell is Shining Aegis, which i do use of course. Or is there something to the lvl 99 version that the 115 version doesnt have?

I am asking because in other cases i do actually use lower level abilities becasue they got worse with higher levels. (for melees: Breather vs. Relax for example)

Yes, more like a category word. Use the highest level you can scribe. I'm not aware of any reason to use a lower level version of the spell.
 
Cleric ae heals are cast with a ring on the ground... unlike, shaman or paladins. (The key to parse healing)
We have great healers, the best.... I want to be better than the best. /shrug

So now I know, I guess what I'm asking is, how to do an ae cleric heal without clicking the ground. (It's a splash heal)
Your clerics really shouldn’t be AE healing, and if they are it’s just to pad meters.
 
I drop a splash heal on the group a lot, not to pad the heal parse but to heal the rest that I dont have in extended target list.
Without a macro running but MQ loaded you can command line cast it if the player you have targeted is in range, because the target ring should be between you and them somewhere on the ground if you are facing towards the tanks.
/cast <Gemnumber>
/click left up
Basicly the same idea as the MQ extra buttons to grab nearest groundspawn, It does not always work, because literally anything else can interrupt it. The first command will prep load the spell, the second line will drop it if it is already previously prepped.
And yes, I play a cleric, also play all characters in 1st person view as well, just not a fan of 3rd person view, and looking at the ground for the most part does help with the lag on this ailing machine.
 
I drop a splash heal on the group a lot, not to pad the heal parse but to heal the rest that I dont have in extended target list.
Without a macro running but MQ loaded you can command line cast it if the player you have targeted is in range, because the target ring should be between you and them somewhere on the ground if you are facing towards the tanks.
/cast <Gemnumber>
/click left up
Basicly the same idea as the MQ extra buttons to grab nearest groundspawn, It does not always work, because literally anything else can interrupt it. The first command will prep load the spell, the second line will drop it if it is already previously prepped.
And yes, I play a cleric, also play all characters in 1st person view as well, just not a fan of 3rd person view, and looking at the ground for the most part does help with the lag on this ailing machine.
It was a little dramatic to say they shouldn’t AE he’s at all, but they shouldn’t be beating shamans who basically cast splash on CD

Nice job with the ring script, reminds me of using HonorBuddy to auto target for monk healing spheres in WoW
 
I let Chat play my monk for raids and the only monk who regularly out parses me is another monk that I see around here (who has way better gear than I do). I don't know how to raid a cleric. If I had a raid cleric, I'd likely let Chat play him for me.
You have more than 1 monk? I don’t even know what the collective noun for monk is. A pod , gaggle, flock ? It’s just Me and .... Wilson

Chat / Sic play 11 of my 12, and the majority of our raid force. Our comms channel sounds waaaaay different to those on YouTube
 
You have more than 1 monk? I don’t even know what the collective noun for monk is. A pod , gaggle, flock ? It’s just Me and .... Wilson

Chat / Sic play 11 of my 12, and the majority of our raid force. Our comms channel sounds waaaaay different to those on YouTube
mink? menk? monkii?
 
You have more than 1 monk? I don’t even know what the collective noun for monk is. A pod , gaggle, flock ? It’s just Me and .... Wilson

Chat / Sic play 11 of my 12, and the majority of our raid force. Our comms channel sounds waaaaay different to those on YouTube

A silence of monks.
 
Your clerics really shouldn’t be AE healing, and if they are it’s just to pad meters.

I strongly disagree. I play a raid cleric. I usually out heal pretty much everyone. I am #1 or #2 on my heal parse. I do not use MQ2 on raids. I use aoe heals a LOT. They are important to keep other folks alive. Your job is to keep folks alive - not just the tanks (although the tanks are your priority). Splash healing helps you achieve that.

I agree with what others have already stated. Use your heals all bonded to one hotkey and spam the shit out of it. Time your heal burns to when you know the damage will be really bad or if you have lost some healers and need to up your heals. I choose where to put my AOE heal by manually clicking the ground (and it is usually where the main raid is, NOT where the main tank is.). A really good healer will also be rezzing the dead, and rebuffing in between healing. Playing a really good cleric takes your full attention. Lazy clerics are those who target the tank and just mash the heal key. If you really want to be the best you need to put work into it.

Edited to add: I Frequently click the AOE splash heal but don't cast it. You can continue to mash your heal hotkey and be healing merrily away while you have a hovering green ring. I then click the ground where I want it precisely when I want to AOE heal (like right after a big damage spike). This good timing will also help your heals land more effectively and also your heal parse will climb too since you are not wasting heals on full health bars).
 
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@MyNameIsBoring You are SO right! Many clucks to you! Thanks ever so much for your input.
In all reality, I have learned my problem is not using the clucking key bind. I can't do it! I ... just ... can't ... do ... it. Too focused on healing everyone I guess. I'll have to work on it.
Clerics are the healers. Shamans are the healer helpers. (If people play their toons right.) Thus, this post!
Thanks for all the input!
 
@MyNameIsBoring You are SO right! Many clucks to you! Thanks ever so much for your input.
In all reality, I have learned my problem is not using the clucking key bind. I can't do it! I ... just ... can't ... do ... it. Too focused on healing everyone I guess. I'll have to work on it.
Clerics are the healers. Shamans are the healer helpers. (If people play their toons right.) Thus, this post!
Thanks for all the input!
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I'm sure there are 100s of guides about how to be the best this, the best that; however, this community is full of the best players eq has to offer. Most of you have played, in some form or another, every class.
For some unknown reason.... I'm not the best player of my class in my guild. (I don't use mq when I raid - ok, slap me, but I want to do it for real). Is it because I can't click fast enough? Is it because I don't use the right spells? Help me! There's a little something, something I'm missing and I haven't learned it from boxing. Is my toon just not good enough, or is it me?

Chick as a guy that played a raid cleric for years before I ever thought about boxing let me tell you a little secret. I even raid healed as a shm for a couple of years. (all the while my main was a pally) Yes it sucks watching your main fall behind your other toons in gear because the raid needed healers. I no longer raid because I got burnout and now I enjoy MQ2ing the content.

First some background. I was normally 95% of the time in the MT group. I rarely parsed highest as a matter of fact I was middle of the road most nights, however, we usually won our fights every raid. Raid healing has changed over the years, but the amount you heal is not the important stat. What really matters is healing when it matters. Sure allowing the plugin to heal can win a fight, but it is those times when you have to make that human choice do I heal player x or player z and the wrong choice nets a wipe. The program may get the choice right sometimes, but I am willing to bet that it is always a black and white choice to the software.

In my opinion the most important skill you can have as a raid cleric is knowing the other classes. For example tossing a heal on an SK sure looks good on your healing numbers but did that SK really need that heal or would he have been fine with his next attack? Do you toss a heal to that necro that just drew aggro or start a big heal on the tank that "should be taunting" the mob and whose discs are down. You really need to get out of the mindset of being the top healer in the raid.

When you say best at your class what do you mean?

Doing little things that help the raid can go a long way. For example when I raided we would pre-buff all the tanks with DI, but I noticed that during the chaos of battle there were only 1 or 2 of us recasting it. My fix for this was to create a custom audio trigger informing me of which toon needs to be refreshed. From that point on I was able to help cover more tanks. I then went and shared those triggers with other clerics in the guild, for some reason some chose not to take the info, but we started noticing fewer deaths due to spike damage. Or how about you are tasked with healing 1 group but you notice a trend that toon a or toon b tend to die a lot on raids. Maybe it's from them sucking and not controlling aggro, maybe it's from there healer sucking or falling asleep, or maybe there are not enough healers to assign them one. What I did was put specific non-tank toons on my ETW. Keeping them up helps the overall raid dps which in turn nets a win or even a smoother win.

I can't really speak to using splash heals on raids because like I said I was usually in the MT group and I had to worry about massive dmg to tanks. I guess for me I just understood the roles of each class and I really could care less about being the best. When we got a win I got my chance at loot and we moved on.

One thing you will learn after years of raiding is you will NEVER be forced to sit out of a raid because there are too many healers. Another thing you will learn is that although healing can get hectic it is extremely boring.
 
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Also if you are constantly over healing then you are not a "good" healer you are just a wasted spot in a raid.
 
4 CoV raids. 4 wins. MQ2Cleric. 2 splashes cast. 0 care factors. Let the shaman squall and alliances splash. Let the clerics Remedy (black crows style)

Would prefer censure to twin cast intervention and contraventions.
 
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