Question - Shaman and Bard just cycling through group members and not doing much else.

[drawthow]

I've seen this before but could always restart kissassist and I would clear up, but tonight it's not. It's worse on the bard but the shaman is doing it as well. They just cycle through the group members. Sometimes its the entire group sometimes just 2 or 3 members. Restarting the mac stops if for a little while, but comes back.

 

[v1ndi]

Seeing your Kiss INI would be helpful in diagnosing the problem.

 

[BlankStare]

Can you post your .ini files for both? I've used both classes and can maybe find something that is the problem as well.

 

[Sic]

I've seen this happen under a few circumstances

an outdated kiss version with targetswitchingon=1 on all your toons

with cure items that don't have a cure type cure1=curestick instead of cure1=curestick|poison

as others said, posting your .ini will give us a good start to get you fixed up

 

[drawthow]

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
Role=Assist
CampRadius=50
CampRadiusExceed=300
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Shaman|95|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
DanNetOn=1
DanNetDelay=20
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=11
Buffs1=Jungle Raptor Saddle|me
Buffs2=Talisman of Soul's Unity|DUAL|Preeminent Foresight|MA
;regen
Buffs3=Talisman of the Indomitable|MA
Buffs4=Talisman of Celerity
Buffs5=Talisman of the Tribunal
;Spirit of Tala'Tak
Buffs6=Lupine Spirit|DUAL|Spirit of Bih'Li
;Aura increases ATK, haste, health, mana, end
Buffs7=Pact of the Wolf
;chance at 2nd life if I die, group may gain a chance as well
Buffs8=Preincarnation|Me
;5m HP increase
Buffs9=Unfettered Growth|MA
Buffs10=Cannibalization|mana|90|35
Buffs11=Pack of Wurt Rk. II
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=10
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=1
;aa
DPS1=Malaise|99|debuffall|malo
;aa
DPS2=Turgur's Virulent Swarm|99|debuffall|slow
DPS3=Turgur's Swarm|99|debuffall|slow|always
;melee damage increase
DPS4=Talisman of the Lion|99|MA
;adds Unity buffs to target -song effect
DPS5=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|98|MA
;group HoT
DPS6=Penumbra of Renewal|99|MA
;dd and grants a healing twincast
DPS7=Frozen Gift|99
;slow and places HoT on targets target
DPS8=Renewing Counterbias|90
;slow and reverse heal 4:30m or 240 interventions
DPS9=Apathy|99|MA
DPS10=Bite of the Grendlaen|90
DebuffAllOn=2
[Heals]
HealsOn=1
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsSize=11
;0 in combat rez
Heals1=Call of the wild|0|rezcombat
;90 out of combat rez
Heals2=Incarnate Anew|0|rezooc
;single target 3.75s direct heal
Heals3=Gotikan's Mending Rk. II|85|MA
;single target 6s HoT
Heals4=Halcyon Breath|90|MA
;group 1s HoT with 23s recast
Heals5=Gotikan's Recourse|75
;group 4s HoT heal
Heals6=Phantom of Renewal|80
;single target 3.75s direct heal
Heals7=Gotikan's Mending|75
;single target 6s HoT
Heals8=Halcyon Breath|70
;single target HoT 12m recast
Heals9=Union of Spirits|45
;cast Ascendant's Intervention - group rescue 5m recast
Heals10=Soothsayer's Intervention|60
;stationary ward HoT heal 24m recast
Heals11=Call of the Ancients|95|MA
;prevents 10% dam up to 3k plus HoT
Heals12=Ward of Recovery|50|Me
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Incarnate Anew
[Cures]
CuresOn=1
CuresSize=2
Cures1=Radiant Cure
Cures2=Purified Spirits
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnSize=3
BurnAllNamed=1
;increases DoT healing for 1:30m 10m recast
Burn1=Fundament: Second Spire of Ancestors|99
;group DoT heal plus skill modifier for 30s  12m recast
Burn2=Ancestral Aid|99
;chance for slow to cause dam 10m recast
Burn3=Languid Bite|80
;twincast 6x both dam and heal spells 20m recast
Burn4=Fleeting Spirit|80
;summons pack of wolves to atk for 1m 7m recast
Burn5=Spirit Call|80
UseTribute=0
[GoM]
GoMSize=3
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[Spells]
MiscGem=12
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=1
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Gotikan's Mending
Gem2=Gotikan's Recourse
Gem3=PPhantom of Renewal
Gem4=Halcyon Breath
Gem5=Talisman of the Lion
Gem6=Ward of Reconstruction
Gem7=Unfettered Growth
Gem8=Renewing Counterbias
Gem9=Frozen Gift
Gem10=Talisman of Kolos' Unity
Gem11=Apathy
Gem12=Bite of the Grendlaen
Gem13=NULL
[MySpells]
Gem1=Gotikan's Mending
Gem2=Gotikan's Recourse
Gem3=PPhantom of Renewal
Gem4=Halcyon Breath
Gem5=Talisman of the Lion
Gem6=Ward of Reconstruction
Gem7=Unfettered Growth
Gem8=Renewing Counterbias
Gem9=Frozen Gift
Gem10=Talisman of Kolos' Unity
Gem11=Apathy
Gem12=Bite of the Grendlaen
Gem13=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=!front
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=1
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=1
;increases AC and absorbs dmg 15m recast
Aggro1=Ancestral Guard|85|>|ME
;save my ass AA 20hr recast
Aggro2=Armor of Experience|30|ME
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=Hilnaah's Faithful
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffsSize=1
PetBuffs1=Companion's Fortification
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetAttackDistance=115
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetToysGave=
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=10/13/2019 11:28:07
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=18287024
BuildDate:=20191010
CurrentUI:=Default
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

 

[drawthow]

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=10
TwistWhat=11 3 4
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=100
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|94|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
DanNetOn=1
DanNetDelay=20
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=6
Buffs1=Echo of the Composer Rk. II|Aura
Buffs2=Rallying Call|managroup|55
Buffs3=Rallying Solo|end|35
Buffs4=Rallying Call|endgroup|50
;Buffs6=Dichotomic Psalm|endgroup|55
;Buffs7=Dichotomic Psalm|managroup|60
Buffs5=Tune Stuck in Your Head
;Buffs9=Blade of Vesagran|weave
;Buffs10=Summoned: Glowing Modulation Shard|Mana|80/10
;Buffs11=Wand of Pelagic Transvergence|Mana|85/15
Buffs6=Selo's Sonata|MA
;Buffs13=Rapier of Somber Notes|Dual|Symphony of Battle
;Buffs14=Burnoose of the Halfbreed|Dual|Illusion: Half Elf
;Buffs15=Bracelet of the Severed Hand|Dual|Mount Blessing Azia
;Buffs16=Severed Hand|Remove
;Buffs17=Familiar of the Emerald Jungle|Dual|Familiar: Emerald Sokokar
;Buffs18=Summon Familiar: Emerald Sokokar|Remove
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=20
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 3 4 5 6 7
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=2
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=!front
UseMQ2Melee=1
FaceMobOn=1
AutoFireOn=0
TargetSwitchingOn=1
[Pull]
PullTwistOn=1
PullWith=Sonic Disturbance
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=3
AERadius=50
AE1=Fundament: Third Spire of the Minstrel|3
AE2=Dichotomic Psalm|4
AE3=Maestro's Conflagrant Breastplate|6
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=14
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=command:/stopdisc|99|Cond5
DPS2=Deftdance Discipline|100|Cond7
;DPS3=command|98|pet qswarm
DPS4=Lyrical Prankster|97|Mob
DPS5=Bladed Song|97|Mob
DPS6=Fierce Eye|97
DPS7=Cacophony|97|Mob
DPS8=Intimidation|97|Mash
;DPS9=Maestro's Conflagrant Breastplate|99|Cond1
;DPS10=Dichomatic Psalm|99|Cond2
DPS11=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond3
;DPS12=Reflexive Rejoinder|75|Mob
DPS13=Selo's Sonata|15|Me
DPS14=Thousand Blades|99|Cond6
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS3=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS12=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=Shield of Notes|90|>
Aggro3=Hymn of the Last Stand|95|>
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=86
MezMaxLevel=113
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Lullaby of the Forlorn
MezAESpell=Wave of Dreams Rk. II|3
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
[Burn]
BurnSize=10
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Funeral Dirge|Mob|Cond3
;Burn2=Dichotomic Psalm
Burn3=Quick Time
Burn4=Cacophony|Mob
Burn5=Boastful Bellow|Mob
Burn6=Fundament: Third Spire of the Minstrel
Burn7=Hymn of the Last Stand
Burn8=Flurry of Notes
Burn9=Frenzied Kicks
Burn10=Song of Stone|Mob
Burn2=NULL
UseTribute=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=5
;Cond1=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[${Spell[Dichotomic Psalm of Potential].RankName}].ID}
;Cond2=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Root].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Third].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Fifth].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Octave].ID}
Cond3=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}
;Cond4=${Me.PctMana}>50
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Thousand Blades]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Thousand Blades]}
Cond6=!${Target.Named}
Cond7=${Me.XTarget} > 0 && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deftdance Discipline]} && ${Me.PctHPs} < 30
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=10/04/2019 14:15:53
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=4794877
BuildDate:=20191003
CurrentUI:=Default
[Spells]
MiscGem=12
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Aria of the Orator
Gem2=Arcane Address
Gem3=Terasal's Spry Sonata
Gem4=Dirge of Dreams
Gem5=Ryken's Reckless Renewal
Gem6=War March of Illdaera
Gem7=Wasinai's Psalm of Potency
Gem8=Slumber of Kolain
Gem9=Wave of Dreams Rk. II
Gem10=Chorus of Lunanyn
Gem11=Pulse of Lunanyn
Gem12=Silence of the Windsong
Gem13=NULL
[MySpells]
Gem1=Aria of the Orator
Gem2=Arcane Address
Gem3=Terasal's Spry Sonata
Gem4=Dirge of Dreams
Gem5=Ryken's Reckless Renewal
Gem6=War March of Illdaera
Gem7=Wasinai's Psalm of Potency
Gem8=Slumber of Kolain
Gem9=Wave of Dreams Rk. II
Gem10=Chorus of Lunanyn
Gem11=Pulse of Lunanyn
Gem12=Silence of the Windsong
Gem13=NULL

 

[drawthow]

Do see TargetSwitchingOn=1 on the bard setting it to 0. Not sure what to put for the cures because they do multiples. Thank for taking a look.

 

[v1ndi]

I'm sure someone will chip in after looking through your INIs, but I do have a few notes regarding your shaman setup.

1) Group Pact of the Wolf negates the need to ever use Talisman of Celerity, the Shaman Aura is zone-wide and provides the same Haste as Celerity
2) DPS7=Frozen Gift|99 This is wrong, Gift line needs to be cast on a PC that is targeting a hostile mob -> DPS7=Frozen Gift|99|MA
3) DPS5=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|98|MA This shouldn't be in your DPS section, the spell has a huge cast time (like 8-12 seconds), and it's a long duration buff so put it in the Buffs section
4) DPS2=Turgur's Virulent Swarm|99|debuffall|slow is an AOE... I wouldn't personally put that in the DPS section, but rather the AOE section. So you don't accidentally pull mobs you don't want
5) DPS6=Penumbra of Renewal|99|MA This is a group HoT, it's fine that you have it in your dps section... but it's weird. I'd move it to the Heals section since Kiss prioritize heal over dps.
6) DPS9=Apathy|99|MA This really should go in the Buffs section
7) Gem3=PPhantom of Renewal is spelled incorrectly in both your spell sections
8) Burn section doesnt use Mob%, so you can get rid of that, if you want % based burns you'll need to make conditions

Also, you have tons of DPS/Heals that you don't have loaded in your spell sections.

In general, the overall way your DPS, Buffs and Heals sections are set up is just really odd to me.

p.s. Talisman of the Tribunal hasn't been relevant in like a decade, since we have been resist capped for a long time, and judging by the spell names you're in your mid 90's so you should be resist capped.

 

[drawthow]

I'm sure someone will chip in after looking through your INIs, but I do have a few notes regarding your shaman setup.

1) Group Pact of the Wolf negates the need to ever use Talisman of Celerity, the Shaman Aura is zone-wide and provides the same Haste as Celerity
2) DPS7=Frozen Gift|99 This is wrong, Gift line needs to be cast on a PC that is targeting a hostile mob -> DPS7=Frozen Gift|99|MA
3) DPS5=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|98|MA This shouldn't be in your DPS section, the spell has a huge cast time (like 8-12 seconds), and it's a long duration buff so put it in the Buffs section
4) DPS2=Turgur's Virulent Swarm|99|debuffall|slow is an AOE... I wouldn't personally put that in the DPS section, but rather the AOE section. So you don't accidentally pull mobs you don't want
5) DPS6=Penumbra of Renewal|99|MA This is a group HoT, it's fine that you have it in your dps section... but it's weird. I'd move it to the Heals section since Kiss prioritize heal over dps.
6) DPS9=Apathy|99|MA This really should go in the Buffs section
7) Gem3=PPhantom of Renewal is spelled incorrectly in both your spell sections
8) Burn section doesnt use Mob%, so you can get rid of that, if you want % based burns you'll need to make conditions

Also, you have tons of DPS/Heals that you don't have loaded in your spell sections.

In general, the overall way your DPS, Buffs and Heals sections are set up is just really odd to me.

p.s. Talisman of the Tribunal hasn't been relevant in like a decade, since we have been resist capped for a long time, and judging by the spell names you're in your mid 90's so you should be resist capped.

v1ndi

Thank you for the input. Have only been back in the game for a month and have leveled 6 toons 20 levels been crazy trying to learn Kiss and update 5 characters ini's. I will make the changes you have suggested. The heal in the dps section should have had an ambush on it. Was trying to keep the low level toons for dying on the pull. But now I think it may be generating a little too much argo when semi-akf pulling, may explain some of the shaman deaths I have been having.

 

[drawthow]

One other question about the Shaman the in combat rez of the cleric is amazing seems to fire before the person even dies. The Shamans dosen't seem to work very well if ever. Any this wrong with my settings?

Heals1=Call of the wild|0|rezcombat

 

[csblake50]

Consider using the "dual" command.
"Talisman of Kolos' Unity" does not apply a buff with that name, instead it applies 4 different buffs.
The way you have it setup now, it it will probably spam the talisman in the buff cycle because it doesn't see a buff with that name.

You may want something like this:
Buffs1=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|dual|Mammoth's Force
Buffs2=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|dual|Preeminent Foresight
Buffs3=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|dual|Imperative Focusing
Buffs4=Talisman of Kolos' Unity|dual|Spirit of Resolve
Using all 4 lines will cast Talisman if any one of those buffs are missing.
If you pick just 1 of the lines, it will only cast Talisman when that one buff is missing.