Question - Rogue Keeps Sneaking?

[Krysea]

Hi there,

I am so sorry to bother you guys! I was wondering if I could get some help though as I tried searching the forums. My rogue keeps sneaking (and therefor walking when the group is running). Is their any way that I can have this turned off instead of defaulting to on? I am not sure where to find it. I am using the Very Vanilla. Thank you so much for any help!

 

[Sic]

Hi there,

I am so sorry to bother you guys! I was wondering if I could get some help though as I tried searching the forums. My rogue keeps sneaking (and therefor walking when the group is running). Is their any way that I can have this turned off instead of defaulting to on? I am not sure where to find it. I am using the Very Vanilla. Thank you so much for any help!

you posted "IRL" which means In Real Life - but i suspect you don't mean that.
you also didn't mention what automation you're using, so it is difficult to help you.

are you using kissassist?

are you using mq2melee?

 

[Krysea]

Thank you for your help! I am using the Very Vanilla Plugin which I think uses both kissassist and mq2melee. I can not find anything in my ini file for my rogue which would make her sneak. I am not sure how to find the folder for the mq2melee.

 

[Sic]

Thank you for your help! I am using the Very Vanilla Plugin which I think uses both kissassist and mq2melee. I can not find anything in my ini file for my rogue which would make her sneak. I am not sure how to find the folder for the mq2melee.

does this happen after you did a /mac kissassist
or does this continue to happen before kissassist is running?

Very Vanilla is just the "flavor" of MacroQuest - and MacroQuest is the platform that plugins and macros and luas all run on.

Kissassist (macro) and mq2melee (plugin) are some examples of different automations, each of them have different functionalities and ways to adjust things


for mq2melee you would /melee hide=0 then /melee save or just /plugin mq2melee unload to unload it altogether (and then would want to ensure your kissassist is not set to reload it. some people still use mq2melee, but it often conflicts with various other automations and is often recommended to unload and let your automation handle whatever you're trying to do

 

[Dragonslayer]

With "Sneak" and "Hide" active, your rogue uses his class specific strong invisibly which allows him to move around invisible to almost all mobs of Norrath. While growing up, your rogue gains aa's which reduces the snare-effect of sneak to almost 0. Therfor most rogues prefer to travel hidden.
Likely your Kissassist contains a line containing "doab" or "doability". If you post the content your Kissassist_charname.ini we might will be able to identify the right line to modify.
Just be careful to check that no char-names are posted.

 

[vandersl]

you posted "IRL" which means In Real Life - but i suspect you don't mean that.

Giving the benefit of the doubt, maybe the OP thought it was In Rogue Life.

 

[Cannonballdex]

In your toons kissassist_yourtoon.ini file try changing AutoHide to 0

[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaprollrear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
TargetSwitchingOn=0
AutoHide=0
PetTauntOverride=0

 

[RogueDuce]

Just added a few rogues to a group to check them out, and am having a similar issue with auto hide/sneak.

Using VV - MuleAssist.
(both are chase assisting)
MQ2Melee has been unloaded. (and disabled in all profiles)
No Lua scripts are active.

But shortly after every battle, they sneak and hide automatically and I'll be damned if I can find the option to disable it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's something obvious I'm missing though.

(Both ini's are identical... here's one)

Spoiler

[CODE title="example ini"][General]
MuleAssistVer=15.3.2

Role=Assist
OnStart=NULL

CampRadius=60
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ReturnToCampAccuracy=10
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=30
BuffWhileChasing=0
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
SitToMed=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=0|96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
CastingInterruptOn=1
TheWinTitle=${Me.Name}.${EverQuest.Server} (Lvl:${Me.Level} ${Me.Class}) ${Zone.Name} ${Me.Instance}
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
DPSMeter=1
Scatter=1
CastRetries=3
DanNetOn=1
DanNetDelay=20
TravelOnHorse=FALSE


[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
MoveCloserIfNoLOS=1
SwitchWithMA=FALSE
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=20
HoTTOn=1
StickHow=behind truehead
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
DismountDuringFights=1
BeforeCombat=Cast Before Melee Disc
TankAllMobs=FALSE


[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
CheckForMemblurredMobsInCamp=1
PullWait=7
PullCond=TRUE
PrePullCond=TRUE
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullNamedsFirst=0
ActNatural=1
UseCalm=0
CalmWith=Harmony
CalmRadius=50
GrabDeadGroupMembers=1

[Twist]
TwistOn=0
TwistMed=Mana song gem
TwistWhat=Twist order here
MeleeTwistOn=0
MeleeTwistWhat=DPS twist order here
PullTwistOn=0

[SpellSet]
MiscGem=1
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=0
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=MuleAssist
GemStuckHelp=Sometimes the spellgems get stuck in a foreverloop, casting an altability that has a cast time will unstick it, this is an eq bug.
GemStuckAbility=Origin


[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsCOn=0
BuffsSize=10
Buffs1=NULL
BuffsCond1=FALSE
Buffs2=NULL
BuffsCond2=FALSE
Buffs3=NULL
BuffsCond3=FALSE
Buffs4=NULL
BuffsCond4=FALSE
Buffs5=NULL
BuffsCond5=FALSE
Buffs6=NULL
BuffsCond6=FALSE
Buffs7=NULL
BuffsCond7=FALSE
Buffs8=NULL
BuffsCond8=FALSE
Buffs9=NULL
BuffsCond9=FALSE
Buffs10=NULL
BuffsCond10=FALSE
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
BegOn=0
BegSize=1
BegPermissionHelp=Valid options are |raid|guild|fellowship|all|tell|group
BegPermission=NULL
BegHelp=Spellname|alias1,alias2,alias3 etc
Beg1=NULL
BuffCacheingDelay=300


[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSCOn=1
DPSSize=10
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPSCond1=FALSE
DPS2=NULL
DPSCond2=FALSE
DPS3=NULL
DPSCond3=FALSE
DPS4=NULL
DPSCond4=FALSE
DPS5=NULL
DPSCond5=FALSE
DPS6=NULL
DPSCond6=FALSE
DPS7=NULL
DPSCond7=FALSE
DPS8=NULL
DPSCond8=FALSE
DPS9=NULL
DPSCond9=FALSE
DPS10=NULL
DPSCond10=FALSE
DebuffAllOn=0
StayAwayToCast=FALSE


[OhShit]
OhShitOn=0
OhShitCOn=0
OhShitSize=10
OhShit1=NULL
OhShitCond1=FALSE
OhShit2=NULL
OhShitCond2=FALSE
OhShit3=NULL
OhShitCond3=FALSE
OhShit4=NULL
OhShitCond4=FALSE
OhShit5=NULL
OhShitCond5=FALSE
OhShit6=NULL
OhShitCond6=FALSE
OhShit7=NULL
OhShitCond7=FALSE
OhShit8=NULL
OhShitCond8=FALSE
OhShit9=NULL
OhShitCond9=FALSE
OhShit10=NULL
OhShitCond10=FALSE


[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroCOn=1
AggroSize=10
Aggro1=Hide|90|>
AggroCond1=FALSE
Aggro2=NULL
AggroCond2=FALSE
Aggro3=NULL
AggroCond3=FALSE
Aggro4=NULL
AggroCond4=FALSE
Aggro5=NULL
AggroCond5=FALSE
Aggro6=NULL
AggroCond6=FALSE
Aggro7=NULL
AggroCond7=FALSE
Aggro8=NULL
AggroCond8=FALSE
Aggro9=NULL
AggroCond9=FALSE
Aggro10=NULL
AggroCond10=FALSE

[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsCOn=0
InterruptHeals=100
HealsSize=10
Heals1=NULL
HealsCond1=FALSE
Heals2=NULL
HealsCond2=FALSE
Heals3=NULL
HealsCond3=FALSE
Heals4=NULL
HealsCond4=FALSE
Heals5=NULL
HealsCond5=FALSE
Heals6=NULL
HealsCond6=FALSE
Heals7=NULL
HealsCond7=FALSE
Heals8=NULL
HealsCond8=FALSE
Heals9=NULL
HealsCond9=FALSE
Heals10=NULL
HealsCond10=FALSE
XTarHeal=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0

[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
Cures6=NULL
Cures7=NULL
Cures8=NULL
Cures9=NULL
Cures10=NULL
CuresCond1=FALSE

[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetBehind=TRUE

[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=10
BurnText=Burn this
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
BurnCond1=FALSE
Burn2=NULL
BurnCond2=FALSE
Burn3=NULL
BurnCond3=FALSE
Burn4=NULL
BurnCond4=FALSE
Burn5=NULL
BurnCond5=FALSE
Burn6=NULL
BurnCond6=FALSE
Burn7=NULL
BurnCond7=FALSE
Burn8=NULL
BurnCond8=FALSE
Burn9=NULL
BurnCond9=FALSE
Burn10=NULL
BurnCond10=FALSE
Burn11=NULL
UseTribute=0

[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=Min Mez Spell Level
MezMaxLevel=Max Mez Spell Level
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Your Mez Spell
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0




























































[GoM]
GoMOn=0
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=4
GoM1=NULL
GoMCond1=FALSE
GoM2=NULL
GoMCond2=FALSE
GoM3=NULL
GoMCond3=FALSE
GoM4=NULL
GoMCond4=FALSE

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Say,Tell
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=20
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
AE11=NULL
AE12=NULL
AE13=NULL
AE14=NULL
AE15=NULL
AE16=NULL
AE17=NULL
AE18=NULL
AE19=NULL
AE20=NULL

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
BeepOnNamed=0

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

[Bandolier]
BandolierOn=0
BandolierCOn=0
BandolierSize=2
BandolierPull=1HS
Bandolier1=NULL
BandolierCond1=FALSE
Bandolier2=NULL
BandolierCond2=FALSE
[/CODE]

 

[Cannonballdex]

Just added a few rogues to a group to check them out, and am having a similar issue with auto hide/sneak.

Using VV - MuleAssist.
(both are chase assisting)
MQ2Melee has been unloaded. (and disabled in all profiles)
No LUA scripts are active.

But shortly after every battle, they sneak and hide automatically and I'll be damned if I can find the option to disable it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's something obvious I'm missing though.

(Both ini's are identical... here's one)

Spoiler

[CODE title="example ini"][General]
MuleAssistVer=15.3.2

Role=Assist
OnStart=NULL

CampRadius=60
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ReturnToCampAccuracy=10
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=30
BuffWhileChasing=0
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
SitToMed=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=0|96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
CastingInterruptOn=1
TheWinTitle=${Me.Name}.${EverQuest.Server} (Lvl:${Me.Level} ${Me.Class}) ${Zone.Name} ${Me.Instance}
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
DPSMeter=1
Scatter=1
CastRetries=3
DanNetOn=1
DanNetDelay=20
TravelOnHorse=FALSE


[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
MoveCloserIfNoLOS=1
SwitchWithMA=FALSE
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=20
HoTTOn=1
StickHow=behind truehead
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
DismountDuringFights=1
BeforeCombat=Cast Before Melee Disc
TankAllMobs=FALSE


[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
CheckForMemblurredMobsInCamp=1
PullWait=7
PullCond=TRUE
PrePullCond=TRUE
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullNamedsFirst=0
ActNatural=1
UseCalm=0
CalmWith=Harmony
CalmRadius=50
GrabDeadGroupMembers=1

[Twist]
TwistOn=0
TwistMed=Mana song gem
TwistWhat=Twist order here
MeleeTwistOn=0
MeleeTwistWhat=DPS twist order here
PullTwistOn=0

[SpellSet]
MiscGem=1
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=0
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=MuleAssist
GemStuckHelp=Sometimes the spellgems get stuck in a foreverloop, casting an altability that has a cast time will unstick it, this is an eq bug.
GemStuckAbility=Origin


[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsCOn=0
BuffsSize=10
Buffs1=NULL
BuffsCond1=FALSE
Buffs2=NULL
BuffsCond2=FALSE
Buffs3=NULL
BuffsCond3=FALSE
Buffs4=NULL
BuffsCond4=FALSE
Buffs5=NULL
BuffsCond5=FALSE
Buffs6=NULL
BuffsCond6=FALSE
Buffs7=NULL
BuffsCond7=FALSE
Buffs8=NULL
BuffsCond8=FALSE
Buffs9=NULL
BuffsCond9=FALSE
Buffs10=NULL
BuffsCond10=FALSE
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
BegOn=0
BegSize=1
BegPermissionHelp=Valid options are |raid|guild|fellowship|all|tell|group
BegPermission=NULL
BegHelp=Spellname|alias1,alias2,alias3 etc
Beg1=NULL
BuffCacheingDelay=300


[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSCOn=1
DPSSize=10
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPSCond1=FALSE
DPS2=NULL
DPSCond2=FALSE
DPS3=NULL
DPSCond3=FALSE
DPS4=NULL
DPSCond4=FALSE
DPS5=NULL
DPSCond5=FALSE
DPS6=NULL
DPSCond6=FALSE
DPS7=NULL
DPSCond7=FALSE
DPS8=NULL
DPSCond8=FALSE
DPS9=NULL
DPSCond9=FALSE
DPS10=NULL
DPSCond10=FALSE
DebuffAllOn=0
StayAwayToCast=FALSE


[OhShit]
OhShitOn=0
OhShitCOn=0
OhShitSize=10
OhShit1=NULL
OhShitCond1=FALSE
OhShit2=NULL
OhShitCond2=FALSE
OhShit3=NULL
OhShitCond3=FALSE
OhShit4=NULL
OhShitCond4=FALSE
OhShit5=NULL
OhShitCond5=FALSE
OhShit6=NULL
OhShitCond6=FALSE
OhShit7=NULL
OhShitCond7=FALSE
OhShit8=NULL
OhShitCond8=FALSE
OhShit9=NULL
OhShitCond9=FALSE
OhShit10=NULL
OhShitCond10=FALSE


[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroCOn=1
AggroSize=10
Aggro1=Hide|90|>
AggroCond1=FALSE
Aggro2=NULL
AggroCond2=FALSE
Aggro3=NULL
AggroCond3=FALSE
Aggro4=NULL
AggroCond4=FALSE
Aggro5=NULL
AggroCond5=FALSE
Aggro6=NULL
AggroCond6=FALSE
Aggro7=NULL
AggroCond7=FALSE
Aggro8=NULL
AggroCond8=FALSE
Aggro9=NULL
AggroCond9=FALSE
Aggro10=NULL
AggroCond10=FALSE

[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsCOn=0
InterruptHeals=100
HealsSize=10
Heals1=NULL
HealsCond1=FALSE
Heals2=NULL
HealsCond2=FALSE
Heals3=NULL
HealsCond3=FALSE
Heals4=NULL
HealsCond4=FALSE
Heals5=NULL
HealsCond5=FALSE
Heals6=NULL
HealsCond6=FALSE
Heals7=NULL
HealsCond7=FALSE
Heals8=NULL
HealsCond8=FALSE
Heals9=NULL
HealsCond9=FALSE
Heals10=NULL
HealsCond10=FALSE
XTarHeal=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0

[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
Cures6=NULL
Cures7=NULL
Cures8=NULL
Cures9=NULL
Cures10=NULL
CuresCond1=FALSE

[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=95
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetBehind=TRUE

[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=10
BurnText=Burn this
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
BurnCond1=FALSE
Burn2=NULL
BurnCond2=FALSE
Burn3=NULL
BurnCond3=FALSE
Burn4=NULL
BurnCond4=FALSE
Burn5=NULL
BurnCond5=FALSE
Burn6=NULL
BurnCond6=FALSE
Burn7=NULL
BurnCond7=FALSE
Burn8=NULL
BurnCond8=FALSE
Burn9=NULL
BurnCond9=FALSE
Burn10=NULL
BurnCond10=FALSE
Burn11=NULL
UseTribute=0

[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=Min Mez Spell Level
MezMaxLevel=Max Mez Spell Level
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Your Mez Spell
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0




























































[GoM]
GoMOn=0
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=4
GoM1=NULL
GoMCond1=FALSE
GoM2=NULL
GoMCond2=FALSE
GoM3=NULL
GoMCond3=FALSE
GoM4=NULL
GoMCond4=FALSE

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Say,Tell
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=20
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
AE11=NULL
AE12=NULL
AE13=NULL
AE14=NULL
AE15=NULL
AE16=NULL
AE17=NULL
AE18=NULL
AE19=NULL
AE20=NULL

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
BeepOnNamed=0

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

[Bandolier]
BandolierOn=0
BandolierCOn=0
BandolierSize=2
BandolierPull=1HS
Bandolier1=NULL
BandolierCond1=FALSE
Bandolier2=NULL
BandolierCond2=FALSE
[/CODE]

Did you try adding Autohide=0 to your Melee Section? Autohide 0=Off/1=On - Toggles auto Sneak Hide for Rogues. Rogue will hide sneak after every fight

 

[RogueDuce]

Did you try adding Autohide=0 to your Melee Section? Autohide 0=Off/1=On - Toggles auto Sneak Hide for Rogues. Rogue will hide sneak after every fight

Of course, that was it. Thanks!

I figured it was something I was overlooking.