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Question - Problem with my tank all of a sudden.

WISE_YETI

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Okay I'm using the latest kiss download 7.1

and an ini off the heroics inis for my tank. now I'm having a problem where if we get a multi pull the tank will do nothing once a mob is mezzed unless it breaks mez and it hits someone so my chanter is mezzing adds great.. so all of a sudden every kill that has multiple i have to physically get involved with to make it keep going.

On a side note he wont use his 2.0 clicky either cant figure that one out to save my life.

SO My group assists my Tank, and my Tank assists my Puller and my Puller is set to puller so I believe that I have that set up Properly.

here is the tanks Code

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.1
Role=Tank
CampRadius=45
CampRadiusExceed=850
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
EQBCOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
MiscGem=12
HoTTOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=50
StickHow=loose
AutoFireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Heroic Earring of the Guardian
Buffs2=Heroic Faceplate of the Guardian
Buffs3=Heroic Earring of the Adventurer
Buffs4=Heroic Gorget of the Combatant
Buffs5=Heroic Drape of the Combatant
Buffs6=Heroic Belt of the Combatant
Buffs7=Heroic Pauldrons of the Guardian
Buffs8=Heroic Ring of the Guardian
Buffs9=Ring of the Fearborn
Buffs10=Heroic Doll of the Guardian
Buffs11=Drape of Korafax
Buffs12=Malarian Skin
Buffs13=Banshee Aura
Buffs14=Voice of Thule|MA
Buffs15=Amygdalan Horror
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=2
DPSInterval=20
DPS1=Dire Constriction|99
DPS2=Ageless Enmity|95
DPS3=Charge for Power|90
DPS4=Malarian Spear|89
DPS5=Terror of Jalvalak|85
DPS6=Plague of the Karanas|83
DPS7=/pet attack|95
DPS8=Festering Darkness|98
DPS9=Theft of Hate|85
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Bond of Malthiasiss|85|Tap
Heals2=Blood of Laarthik|80|Tap
Heals3=Touch of Lanys|75|Tap
Heals4=Dire Implication|60|Tap
Heals5=Leech Touch|23|Tap
Heals6=Harmshield|10|Me
Heals7=Deflection Discipline|80|Me
Heals8=Innoruuk's Dark Blessing|90
Heals9=Malthiasiss`s Bite|90
Heals10=Divine Companion Aura|20|Pet
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
XTarHeal=0
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Minion of Sebilis
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Null
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Gift of Sathir
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetFocus=NULL
PetToysGave=
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=98
[Pull]
PullWith=Charge for Power
MaxRadius=750
MaxZRange=50
MaxZRange=100
PullWait=0
BuffWait=30
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=/bcaa //quit
AFKPCRadius=75
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=Sholothian Carapace
Burn2=Harm Touch
Burn3=Chattering Bones
Burn4=Fundament: First Spire of the Reavers
Burn5=Fundament: Second Spire of the Reavers
Burn6=NULL
GoM=NULL
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=1
AERadius=50
AE1=Burst of Spite|3
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL

Here is my Pullers ini incase its something in there you all can think of

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.1
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=750
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=1
TwistWhat=1
MedCombat=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
EQBCOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
MiscGem=12
HoTTOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=behindonce
MeleeTwistOn=1 2 3 4 5
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 3 4 5
FaceMobOn=1
AutoFireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Aura of the Renewal|Aura
Buffs2=Heroic Earring of the Adventurer
Buffs3=Heroic Mask of the Courageous
Buffs4=Heroic Earring of the Combatant
Buffs5=Heroic Gorget of the Combatant
Buffs6=Heroic Drape of the Combatant
Buffs7=Heroic Spaulders of the Courageous
Buffs8=Heroic Belt of the Combatant
Buffs9=Heroic Ring of the Combatant
Buffs10=Heroic Earring of the Adventurer
Buffs11=Selo's Sonata
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=6
DPS1=Lyrical Prankster|96
DPS2=Boastful Bellow|94
DPS3=Selo's Kick|90
DPS4=Bladed Song|85
DPS5=Blade of Vesagran|92
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=60
MezMaxLevel=98
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Silence of the Dreamer
MezAESpell=Wave of Slumber|2
[Pull]
PullWith=Boastful Bellow
MaxRadius=2000
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
BuffWait=0
PullTwistOn=1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=97
[AFKTools]
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=75
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=Funeral Dirge
Burn2=Song of Stone
Burn3=Fundament: Second Spire of the Minstrel
Burn4=Cacophony
Burn5=Quick Time
Burn6=Fierce Eye
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL

and last but not least, my enchanter is my looter.. and some times he goes 5-10 minutes w/o looting other times he is on top of it.. its 100% random so that leads me to ask
1 What requirements must be met before he will begin to loot?
He has combat loot on mob radius set to 5 and it jsut seems to be a coin flip if hes going to loot or not he eventually does but some times i have a MASSIVE pile of corpses before he starts

here is the settings part of my loot ini (its a massive loot ini so not posting the whole thing

[Settings]
|======================================================================|
Version=4.6
OpenAllBags=1
AddNewSales=1
LootForage=0
LootMobs=TRUE
CorpseRadius=60
MobsTooClose=5
ReportLoot=FALSE
LootChannel=g
LootForageSpam=1
GlobalLootOn=1
CombatLooting=1




Enchanter Ini incase its something in there

[General]
KissAssistVer=7.1
Role=Assist
CampRadius=50
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
MiscGem=12
HoTTOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Voice of Prescience
Buffs2=Shield of the Void
Buffs3=Hastening of Erradien
Buffs4=Learner's Aura|Aura
Buffs5=Bracelet of the Severed Hand|Mount
Buffs6=Ward of Befuddlement
Buffs7=Twincast Aura|Aura
Buffs8=Heroic Ring of the Adept|Dual|Knowledge of the Past III
Buffs9=Eldritch Rune
Buffs10=Guard of Druzzil
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=Polychaotic Rune|Me
Buffs13=Dermal Brimstone|MA
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=Heroic Earring of the Adept|Dual|Geomantra III
Buffs16=Heroic Mask of the Agile|Dual|Form of Endurance V
Buffs17=Heroic Earring of the Adventurer|Dual|Soothing Puff of Breath II
Buffs18=Heroic Cloak of the Adept|Dual|Hateful Guard
Buffs19=Heroic Belt of the Adept|Dual|Ellowind's Expansive Mind
Buffs20=Heroic Shoulders of the Agile|Dual|Myrmidon's SKill I
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=125
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=5
DPSInterval=15
DPS1=Bite of Tashani|98
DPS2=Desolate Deeds|99
DPS3=Fragmented Consciousness|90
DPS4=Heroic Mindbroken Robe|87|Once
DPS5=Mind Twist|85
DPS6=Suffocation|80
DPS7=Mind Oscillate|75
DPS8=Polychaotic Assault|50
DPS9=Chaotic Befudding|45
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Companion's Blessing|50|Pet
Heals2=Divine Companion Aura|20|Pet
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=Yozan's Animation
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetToysGave=
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=75
MezMinLevel=50
MezMaxLevel=88
MezStopHPs=50
MezSpell=Befuddle
MezAESpell=Ensorcelling Wave|2
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=Acute Focus of the Arcanum
Burn2=Polychaotic Assault
Burn3=Chaotic Befuddling
Burn4=Multichromatic Assault
Burn5=Polychromatic Assault
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Bite of Tashani
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=/quit
AFKPCRadius=150
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=92
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL

Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated it.. i woke up to find well my crew chilling with 15 mobs mezzed in camp and no xp gains from when i went to bed..
 
This has been reported before. I have not able to duplicate it but i am looking a for the glitch.
 
Do you need any other files from me or logs or something, it does state "Add in camp detected" as i said before if the mez breaks he kicks some ass.. if the mez doesnt break.. he thinks its coffee break time and they just start piling up.

Let me know if i can help you in any way

I set my puller to pullertank and yeah my cleric eats some more mana healing the puller but i have not had that issue so far the pullertank seems to be engaging and breaking mezd mobs fine.

SO pullertank is puller.. and tank is still set to tank puller, and the rest is assisting the actual TANK not puller tank. i'm sure there is some reason why i should not be using 2 tanks in 1 group maybe not but so far it seems to be working..

a nice bypass until you figure out what ever glitch is causing that!

- - - Updated - - -

Another thing i'm noticing Maskoi, when you use just puller and say he goes out and pulls a caster..and you get 2 melee adds.
So now we have 3 mobs incoming 2 melee 1 caster, He stays targeted ON the initial pull mob until it arrives so the tank waits for it to get there before it engages it granit the enchanter typically handles mez's great but some times you stand there up to 30 seconds while it trys to keep casting on you.

You could fix it in theory by increasing camp radius but I like to keep a tight radius on the camp and not having tank go out far to engage.

Now with the setup i said i used to bypass the glitch using pullertank instead of puller.. same scenario
You go out tag a caster, get 2 melee adds (naturall melee adds get there first) the pullertank gets hit by an incoming melee mob switches targets and by the time the caster finally comes in to the group radius one of the melee is dead saving a lot of time.. and as we both know time = exp..

just something i've discovered
 
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Any tank mode should grab the closest mob in camp. that was fixed and tested pretty well. almost sounds like you are using an older version of kiss but i saw your ini file was 7.1 will look at it next week.
 
yeah it "Normally" is fine but if i run it for a while it seems eventually in just puller and tank settings the tank eventually gets stuck on the adds in camp loop.. but so far today pullertank and tank.. works pretty good the actual tank still has some interesting lag about him sometimes and waits like 5-10 seconds but hes stepping up and fighting for the most part.

I almost thought I could just set up shits/downs and skip the tank kiss entirly and do it that way but not sure how i would make him auto assist if thats a mq2melee option or not
 
You can do just about anything you want in mq2melee if you want to put forth the effort of figuring out how. I've ran entire bots just off mq2melee and mq2cast.
Anyway, something like this should work:
down/holyshit1=/if (${Me.XTarget[1].ID} && ${Me.XTarget[1].Distance}<40 && !${Melee.Combat}) /multiline ; /xtarget 1 ; /attack on
 
SO My group assists my Tank, and my Tank assists my Puller and my Puller is set to puller so I believe that I have that set up Properly.
there is your problem your tank should assist him self
that's why he is waiting for the pullers mob to get into camp ect.. and not breaking mez
 
ahhhh
welll then~

I shall correct that grave mistake.. and go from there .. and report back.. at the end of tomorrow since its sunday and according to my wife.. Jesus didnt play EQ on sundays~ hahahaha its family day i just like to poke fun at her.

- - - Updated - - -

Thanks that solved that!

ON TO MY NEXT PROBLEM woops caps..

My puller has a 15 second or so delay between when mob dies and he starts to try and pull something new.. he doesnt loot he only pulls even when manas all 100% and there is no reason to wait he waits.. any suggestions?
 
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