Problem - Necro pullerpettank keeps switching targets on initial pull and blowing mez…

[Granditos]

I’m trying to figure out a way to resolve this. I’m guessing pulling with my necro is probably the problem here which will be resolved once I gear up my bard. But anyhow, this is what happens:

On a pull, necro sends pet out to target 1, sometimes this will pull two or three mobs. On the way back my necro will already start casting dots on target 1. Occasionally mob 2 or mob 3 (target 2 or 3) will reach my necro first which will cause my necro to switch targets. Then will start dotting the new target. Then what happens is the bard tried to mez target 2 and 3 but now one or both of them have a dot on them. So then it will try to mez target 1 which also has a dot on it.

All hell then breaks loose which requires me to hopefully /mqp and root one of the mobs while trying to keep the pets from all my characters in control… usually one of the mercs dies and maybe the bard but we eventually recover.

I can post the ini’s if needed.


UPDATE: Problem completely solved! Switched to bard pulling and no problem. Lesson- Pulling with necro's is dumb.

 

[stvski]

so ive had this problem with mage and enchanter
its a two part problem
so you necro will cast before bard mezzes
necro will cast on closest mob once bard mezzes

so if your necro dots up a mob that doesn't end up being closest when bard messes then shit hits the fan

so you can do two things - play necro on manual and switch to auto once bard mezzes

you can look at camp radius so necro has lower radius then bard -- more buggy but you can play around with it

short answer is necro cant dot until after bard mezzes

 

[Lord Sivion]

It's a FUBAR situation. Id also suggest messing with radius as well. Or, you can simply not have the Necro cast DoT's and stick with nukes and pet attacks. But really, get that bard up to par...

 

[Granditos]

It's a FUBAR situation. Id also suggest messing with radius as well. Or, you can simply not have the Necro cast DoT's and stick with nukes and pet attacks. But really, get that bard up to par...

New to bard, what is the best way to pull using KA with bard? Melee, range, or is there a certain song/spell/AA?

NM, sonic disturbance! Its already in most ini's.

 

[Granditos]

so ive had this problem with mage and enchanter
its a two part problem
so you necro will cast before bard mezzes
necro will cast on closest mob once bard mezzes

so if your necro dots up a mob that doesn't end up being closest when bard messes then shit hits the fan

so you can do two things - play necro on manual and switch to auto once bard mezzes

you can look at camp radius so necro has lower radius then bard -- more buggy but you can play around with it

short answer is necro cant dot until after bard mezzes

Ok cool. So I’m not alone. I’ll mess with settings a bunch and try to find a good solution. Might make sense to just have the bard start pulling.

 

[Granditos]

Update, now the bard just runs past the closes mob to pull mobs further away. I've messed with the arch due to the narrow area i'm pulling through. But still in that narrow area he runs past 2 mobs to pull the third furthest I dont get it.

General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=11
TwistWhat=11 12 7 3 1 4
XTSlot=1
Role=Assist
CampRadius=60
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=50
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|120|GOLD
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
MedStop=100
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
DefaultUI=TRUE
LOSBeforeCombat=0

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=19
Buffs1=Aura of Pli Xin Liako|Aura
Buffs2=Zelinstein's Lively Crescendo
Buffs3=Rallying Call|managroup|30
Buffs4=Rallying Solo|end|29
Buffs5=Rallying Call|endgroup|30
Buffs6=Composite Psalm|endgroup|55
Buffs7=Composite Psalm|managroup|60
Buffs8=Summoned: Glowing Modulation Shard|Mana|80/10
Buffs9=Wand of Pelagic Transvergence|Mana|85/15
Buffs10=Selo's Sonata|Cond16
;Buffs11=Emperor Ganak Familiar|Dual|Familiar: Emperor Ganak
;Buffs12=Summon Familiar: Emperor Ganak|Remove
; update to whatever familiar you have
Buffs11=Personal Hemic Source|Dual|Familiar: Personal Hemic Source
Buffs12=Summon Familiar: Personal Hemic Source|Remove
Buffs13=Scorpion's Agony XIX|Dual|Scorpion's Agony Poison XI|Me
Buffs14=Songblade of the Eternal|Dual|Symphony of Battle|Me
Buffs15=Jann's Veil|Cond15
Buffs16=Illusion: |Remove
; update to whatever mount you have.
Buffs17=Selyrah of Fear Saddle|Dual|Mount Blessing Beza
; update to whatever mount you have.
Buffs18=Selyrah of Fear Saddle|Remove
Buffs19=Rapier of Somber Notes|Dual|Symphony of Battle|Me
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL

[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
MeleeDistance=60
StickHow=snaproll rear
; definitely suggested to keep mq2melee off, use mq2react or LEM if you want similar "holy/down" functionality
UseMQ2Melee=0
FaceMobOn=1
AutoFireOn=0
TargetSwitchingOn=0
PetTauntOverride=0

[Pull]
PullTwistOn=1
PullWith=Sonic Disturbance
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=325
MaxZRange=100
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=3
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=40
PullPause=0|0
PullLevel=100|999
PullArcWidth=50
PullRadiusToUse=99
PullRoleToggle=0
PullOnReturn=0
PullTwist=0

[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=3
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL

[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=25
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Blade of Vesagran|99
DPS2=Funeral Dirge|99|Cond8
DPS3=Quick Time|99|Cond8
DPS4=Spire of the Minstrels|99|Cond18
DPS5=Flurry of Notes|99|Cond8
DPS6=Frenzied Kicks|99|Cond8
DPS7=Song of Stone|99|Cond8
DPS8=Dance of Blades|99|Cond8
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=command:/stopdisc|99|Cond5
DPS11=Deftdance Discipline|100|Cond7
DPS12=command:/pet swarm|99|Once|Cond13
DPS13=Lyrical Prankster|99
DPS14=Bladed Song|99
DPS15=Fierce Eye|99|Cond10
DPS16=Cacophony|99|Mob
DPS17=Intimidation|99|Mash
DPS18=${InvSlot[Chest].Item.Name}|99|Cond1
;DPS19=Composite Psalm|99|Cond2
DPS19=Composite Psalm|99|Cond2
DPS20=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond3
DPS21=Boastful Bellow|99|Cond14|Once
DPS22=Selo's Sonata|15
DPS23=Thousand Blades|99|Cond8
DPS24=Reflexive Rebuttal|99|Cond17
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS25=NULL

[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=3
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=Shield of Notes|90|>
Aggro3=Hymn of the Last Stand|95|>

[Mez]
; Use MezOn=3 if you ONLY want AOE Mez (this is how i run it)
MezOn=1
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=95
MezMaxLevel=999
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Slumber of the Diabo
MezAESpell=Wave of Nocturn|2
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell

; I use the dps section for "burns" with conditions
; I still use BurnAllNamed on so i can toggle those burns.
[Burn]
BurnSize=3
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=NULL
Burn1=NULL
Burn1=NULL
BurnText=Burn
UseTribute=0
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL

[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=18
Cond1=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[${Spell[Composite Psalm of Potential].RankName}].ID} && ${BurnAllNamed}
Cond2=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Root].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Third].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Fifth].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Octave].ID} && ${BurnAllNamed}
Cond3=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID} && ${BurnAllNamed}
Cond4=${Me.PctMana} > 50
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Thousand Blades]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Thousand Blades]}
Cond6=!${Target.Named}
Cond7=${Me.XTarget} > 0 && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deftdance Discipline]} && ${Me.PctHPs} < 30
Cond8=${Target.Named} && ${BurnAllNamed}
Cond9=NULL
Cond10=!${Me.Song[Spirit of Vesagran].ID}
Cond11=${Target.Named} && ${Target.Level} > 115 && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Mythic Glyph of Ultimate Power V]} && ${BurnAllNamed}
Cond12=!${Me.AltAbilityReady[Mythic Glyph of Ultimate Power V]} && ${AltAbility[Mythic Glyph of Ultimate Power V].CanTrain} && ${Me.AAPoints}>39
Cond13=${SpawnCount[${Me.Name}`s pet]} > 0
Cond14=${Me.PctEndurance}>30
Cond15=!${Me.Buff[Illusion Benefit Greater Jann].ID}
Cond16=!${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerato].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerando].ID}
Cond17=((${Group.Member[0].PctMana} > 1 && ${Group.Member[0].PctMana}< 60) || (${Group.Member[1].PctMana} > 1 && ${Group.Member[1].PctMana} < 60) || (${Group.Member[2].PctMana} > 1 && ${Group.Member[2].PctMana} < 60) || (${Group.Member[3].PctMana} > 1 && ${Group.Member[3].PctMana} < 60) || (${Group.Member[4].PctMana} > 1 && ${Group.Member[4].PctMana} < 60) || (${Group.Member[5].PctMana} > 1 && ${Group.Member[5].PctMana} < 60))
Cond18=(${Me.XTarget} > 2 || ${Target.Named}) && ${BurnAllNamed}

[SpellS]
MiscGem=7
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
Gem1=Aria of Pli Xin Liako
Gem2=Arcane Harmony
Gem3=Von Deek's Spiteful Lyric
Gem4=Shojralen's Song of Suffering
Gem5=Sogran's Insult
; War Chorus of the bloodbeast is AE Players
;Gem6=War Chorus of the Bloodbeast
; War March is slightly better than chorus but group members
Gem6=War March of Centien Xi Va Xakra
Gem7=Xetheg's Spry Sonata
Gem8=Slumber of the Diabo
Gem9=Wave of Nocturn
Gem10=Zelinstein's Lively Crescendo
Gem11=Pulse of Nikolas
Gem12=Dirge of the Restless
Gem13=Composite Psalm
CheckStuckGem=1

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealInterval=0
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=95
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=03/12/2023 07:53:11
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=1910178
BuildDate:=20230303
CurrentUI:=Default

 

[stvski]

my guess is the pull arc width

PullArcWidth

0

0-360

The width in degrees on the compass. See /setpullarc in the command section.

it takes a bit to get right and the picture tells the other stuff that can mess up pulling

 

[Granditos]

my guess is the pull arc width

PullArcWidth

0

0-360

The width in degrees on the compass. See /setpullarc in the command section.

it takes a bit to get right and the picture tells the other stuff that can mess up pulling


View attachment 47161

Yeah you could be right on that I have to keep it pretty narrow to keep my guys from running around the wall to the other side. And the first mob might be outside of the arc.