Guide - My Box 0.1

[ludwigd]

ludwigd submitted a new resource:

My Box - Starting my box crew to quest and farm from HoT

Classes used :
- SK 105
- SHM Heroic 85
- BRD Heroic 85
- MAG Heroic 85
- Merc Heal J5
- Merc Heal A5

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[Akatora]

why not do a real cleric and berserker? or 2 berserkers

 

[ludwigd]

may be later, i want to start first with four account and let merc handle heal. I am new at boxing.

 

[Akatora]

id still add a berserker in the mix then

https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/mq2berzerker.1018/

I have the paid version and box 5 groups of characters and i have 4 berserkers now because it dominates all other dps i have, ranged/caster/melee it doesnt matter

 

[ludwigd]

good to know.
I just tried this morning the group. I configured everything ( just need to get better kissassist ini ) and it's working pretty well
I will see to get a cleric and a berserker to add.
I want to keep the other class for utiliy ( bard for regen, shaman to slow and mag to coth )

 

[VorpalChicken]

Hey Lud, the issue you'll have with that setup is that it's extremely weak on DPS, everyone has their preferences for how to to play, if this box setup works for you, well crack on, but you'll run into a wall with the higher level content where you will just not have enough DPS.

I run all kinds of different group setups, but what I've learnt is don't run bards unless it's a pure melee group, default to using an enchanter every time, shaman's can take the place of a healer, just never ever take one expecting them to do DPS, because they don't, yes their ADPS they add to a group is awesome, but I find they are lacking (don't get me wrong I love shamans!!!!).

When I used to only run 4 accounts +2 mercs, I would setup like this:

SK or Warrior for main tank/puller
Enchanter for CC and DPS (yup enchanters can do nice DPS endgame)
Cleric for heals, nothing can beat them for sheer heal output
Berserker or Wizard depending on what route I was taking with DPS merc's, although I must say caster merc's will do more DPS with the setup than melee

 

[Mongo]

I want to keep the other class for utiliy ( bard for regen, shaman to slow and mag to coth )

While I still have a shaman out of group for buffs etc, IMO It's better swapped out for a DPS. The bard slow + Higher end tank belt slows kinda make the shammy slow irrelevant. While shammy dots are quite nice DPS at max AA, the DPS you could squeeze out of another class would be far nicer!!

 

[ludwigd]

So, it's better to form a group like : SK - Chanter - Ber- Ber + 2 merc?

 

[Mongo]

So, it's better to form a group like : SK - Chanter - Ber- Ber + 2 merc?

I mean, if you're using MQ2 with Kiss and your computer can handle it, i'd make those 2 mercs into real players. A cleric using Kiss11 or AutoCLR will be far far far superior to using a cleric merc, you'll be able to knock out so much more content. My current group is SK CLR BRD BER BER BER and so far, we are absolutely unstoppable. I'd personally swap that chanter for a bard if you're going to run a melee heavy group - the bard has a lot more ADPS to help out the melee, I only ever use chanters in Caster groups (Or out of group, which I do a LOT)

If you're dead set on using mercs, I would personally swap a zerk for a real cleric and use 2x DPS mercs because of the value a real cleric brings to my groups.

 

[VorpalChicken]

What you need to do, is understand the underlying synergies that work together, on a basic level here's 2 group types I use, bear in mind that these would be if you were running 6 boxes, not 4, but it's to illustrate how they can work.

Caster Group: Pure caster group, enchanter enhances all the casters ability to do DMG and enhances that
Shadow Knight/Paladin - Tank
Cleric - Healer
Enchanter - CC + ADPS
Wizard - DPS
Wizard - DPS
Magician - DPS + Mana + Utility

Melee Group: This is a pure melee group, bard increases melee DPS with the right song use, the BST further increases this and allows for END regen
Warrior - Tank
Cleric - Healer
Bard - CC + ADPS
Berserker - DPS
Berserker - DPS
Beastlord - DPS + Endurance + Utility

 

[ludwigd]

ok, i will try that, i will just need to PL 2 zerker as i dont have enough heroic character on other account.
Thanks everybody for advices !

 

[ludwigd]

ok, i started playing with my box and i dont like the bard class.
I suppose that using an enchanter instead is still viable but what amount of DPS do i will loss?
I will just be slower to kill than with a bard ; correct?

 

[vsab]

What didn't you like about the bard? You might need to tweak your ini. For that group a bard should win hands down over an enchanter. Ofc you could try to make up the DPS by running the chanter manually and charming a pet...

 

[bb4]

ok, i started playing with my box and i dont like the bard class.
I suppose that using an enchanter instead is still viable but what amount of DPS do i will loss?
I will just be slower to kill than with a bard ; correct?

If you like the enchanter over bard, it might be worth considering a caster focused group if you like caster DPS. I know zerkers right now are destroying the DPS charts, but it is also more important to enjoy the classes you are playing. Min/Max is great and all, but if you don't enjoy the toons then that completely defeats the purpose of playing the game.

 

[ludwigd]

I dont like twist / melody. And i know better enchanter as i already have one level 105.
I feel more confortable with him than with the bard.

 

[hellfyre]

I run an sk cleric enchanter rogue zerker and beast. While I know it's not the ideal group make up it's allowed to go through all content. I prefer enchanter over bard for the pure power of cc when I pull trains to my group. I lose some adps but survivability and still crushing content is enough for me.

 

[ludwigd]

I run an sk cleric enchanter rogue zerker and beast. While I know it's not the ideal group make up it's allowed to go through all content. I prefer enchanter over bard for the pure power of cc when I pull trains to my group. I lose some adps but survivability and still crushing content is enough for me.

Just what i wanted to read ! Thanks !
I will continue my adventure with an enchanter even if i will not be the best :p

 

[Sum1]

To each his or her own, man. I run a SK, Cleric, Enchanter, Zerker, Ranger, Wizard.

Before I got cheap and left everyone else but my main group in EoK-era gear/expansions I would swap in a Beastlord at times, too. Or other times when I needed coth I’d swap in a Mage.

Whatever works, man.