Question - Maskoi please? What am I doing wrong? Kissassist 6.7.3 related. New patch...

[lostangelintx]

Dude, I love what you're doing here.
I am having a ton of problems tonight. I haven't wiped so many times in my life.
Bard pulls, bard gets spanked on by whatever mob he pulls in.
Merc tank sits there like he's bored. And since he is MA for the rest of the crew, nobody does anything except for my human controlled necro, my j5 healer merc and the poor bard, who doesn't make much more than a good speed bump.

These are all new ini's. I didn't copy anything over from previous versions of kissassist. I know that the problem is with the Shaman and her merc. The other characters just sit there, because they are waiting for the MA they are targeted to do something.

If these ini's are right, can you please write out for me, a step by step list to getting my crew up and running? This is making me feel really stupid, and I don't like to feel that waylol.

Here are the ini's

95 Shaman with J5 Tank merc

[General]
KissAssistVer=6.7.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Second Life
Buffs2=Spirit of Bih`li
Buffs3=Talisman of the Lion Rk. II
Buffs4=Talisman of Celerity
Buffs5=Talisman of Kolos' Unity Rk. II|Dual|Imperative Focusing Rk. II
Buffs6=Ancestral Arrangement Rk. II|mana|90|20
Buffs7=Cannibalization|mana|60|60
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Malosinete|98
DPS2=Turgur's Swarm|95
DPS3=Blessed Spiritstaff of the Heyokah|91
DPS4=Poanag's Pandemic Rk. II|85
DPS5=Naeya Blood Rk. II|80
DPS6=Apathy Rk. II|70
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Gotican's's Mending Rk. II|60
Heals2=Progenitor's Intervention Rk. II|35
Heals3=Gotikan's Recourse Rk. II|50
Heals4=Freezing Gift Rk. II|67|MA
Heals5=Union of Spirits|20
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
XTarHeal=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Hilnaah's Faithful RK. II
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=1
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=92

96 Bard

[General]
KissAssistVer=6.7.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
TwistOn=0
TwistMed=Mana song gem
TwistWhat=Twist order here
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=11 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Boastful Bellow
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=650
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=Min Mez Spell Level
MezMaxLevel=Max Mez Spell Level
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Your Mez Spell
MezAESpell=Your AE Mez Spell|0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

96 Mage

[General]
KissAssistVer=6.7.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Malosenia|97
DPS2=Bolt of Molten Magma|90
DPS3=Fickle Flames|80
DPS4=Molten Veil|95|MA
DPS5=Shock of Argathian Steel|85
DPS6=Speer of Molten Steel|75
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Shard of Air
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=1
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Auspice of Shadows
PetBuffs2=Burnout XI
PetBuffs3=Iceflame Armor
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetToysOn=0
PetToys1=NULL
PetToys2=NULL
PetToys3=NULL
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToysGave=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1	
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

95 Necro with J5 healer

Also along for the ride is my 94 druid. He isn't in the group,so mostly he doesn't die, but he is also targeted the Shaman's merc as MA, and thus does nothing while the rest of us die.
Here is his ini.

94 druid

[General]
KissAssistVer=6.7.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Remote Sunburst|80
DPS2=Spineburr Bulwark|97|MA
DPS3=Hide of the Reptile|99|MA
DPS4=Unfettered Growth|98|MA
DPS5=Grip of Ro|94
DPS6=Blast of Hypergrowth Rk. II|88
DPS7=Wrath of Wild|96|MA
DPS8=Sunbreeze Blessing|95|MA
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Survival of the Prosperous|50
Heals2=Sanavida|70
Heals3=Adrenaline Blast|50
Heals4=Lunamelioration|80
Heals5=Rejuvilation|45|MA
Heals6=Sanavida|80|MA
Heals7=Promised Revitalization|95|MA
Heals8=Silver Frost|85|MA
Heals9=Convergence of Spirits|48|MA
Heals10=NULL
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
XTarHeal=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Nature Walker's Behest
PetShrinkOn=1
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Savage Spirit
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
PullMyHPs=25
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

Help!!!

 

[Maskoi]

inis look fine over all

On shammy try setting your assist higher

[Melee]
AssistAt=99

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=100

I would raise everyone's assist to 98 with a merc tank. Can take a while for him to get the mob to 95%

If druid is out of group put the bard in Xtarget 5 and turn your xtartget heal on
XTarHeal=5

and download 6.7.4 lol

PS make sure merc isn't on Passive lol

ACTIVATE YOUR BARD MEZ

Make sure Puller is in same group as Merc. Mercs will not attack mobs aggro'd by anyone out of group.

 

[RedQueen]

Have the person with the tank merc stand up front a bit, have the bard pull BEHIND the toon.

What I do is have my toons like


x <- This X being above the O... Silly formatting wont let me use spaces.
x o x

The o being my bard, the top X being my shaman with her J5 merc.
The other two x's being my other toons ready to run in.


Give that a shot.

 

[lostangelintx]

I changed the % to assist on all toons to 100.
I turned the mez parts back on for the bard.
I turned on xtarheal for the druid and tagged the bard in xtarheal=5.

It's almost like the tank merc has to have the mob pulled right over the top of him before he will engage. If the bard pulls around to the side of him, out of his line of sight, if you will, then he just sits there.
There were a couple times when it was a total wipe, except for the awesomeness of my necro's fd. Even the tank mercs owner would die and the merc will stand there like he is mezzed, or set on passive.

I have tried this with auto assist on and off. With merc set to assist and aggressive. Same. Once in a blue moon, the merc will assist and everything works fine. About half of the time it seems that he only assists when I send my pet in. It's like he doesn't see that bard as part of the group.

It seems that if I set everyone except the mercs owner to kissassist the merc, and set the mercs owner (95 shaman) to kissassist assist the bard, then it works out a little better.

I'll just have to revert back to pulling with the necro and let the bard sit there and sing, unless you can give me some other ideas. I will try the newest kissassist release (6.7.5 I think) tonight when I get home and try it again.

:'(

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I changed the % to assist on all toons to 100.
I turned the mez parts back on for the bard.
I turned on xtarheal for the druid and tagged the bard in xtarheal=5.

It's almost like the tank merc has to have the mob pulled right over the top of him before he will engage. If the bard pulls around to the side of him, out of his line of sight, if you will, then he just sits there.
There were a couple times when it was a total wipe, except for the awesomeness of my necro's fd. Even the tank mercs owner would die and the merc will stand there like he is mezzed, or set on passive.

I have tried this with auto assist on and off. With merc set to assist and aggressive. Same. Once in a blue moon, the merc will assist and everything works fine. About half of the time it seems that he only assists when I send my pet in. It's like he doesn't see that bard as part of the group.

It seems that if I set everyone except the mercs owner to kissassist the merc, and set the mercs owner (95 shaman) to kissassist assist the bard, then it works out a little better.

I'll just have to revert back to pulling with the necro and let the bard sit there and sing, unless you can give me some other ideas. I will try the newest kissassist release (6.7.5 I think) tonight when I get home and try it again.

:'(

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Also, if you can look at the ini's. The group invite feature has never worked for me. I have to manually accept group invites on each toon.
Any ideas there?

 

[Jmo]

I changed the % to assist on all toons to 100.
I turned the mez parts back on for the bard.
I turned on xtarheal for the druid and tagged the bard in xtarheal=5.

It's almost like the tank merc has to have the mob pulled right over the top of him before he will engage. If the bard pulls around to the side of him, out of his line of sight, if you will, then he just sits there.
There were a couple times when it was a total wipe, except for the awesomeness of my necro's fd. Even the tank mercs owner would die and the merc will stand there like he is mezzed, or set on passive.

I have tried this with auto assist on and off. With merc set to assist and aggressive. Same. Once in a blue moon, the merc will assist and everything works fine. About half of the time it seems that he only assists when I send my pet in. It's like he doesn't see that bard as part of the group.

It seems that if I set everyone except the mercs owner to kissassist the merc, and set the mercs owner (95 shaman) to kissassist assist the bard, then it works out a little better.

I'll just have to revert back to pulling with the necro and let the bard sit there and sing, unless you can give me some other ideas. I will try the newest kissassist release (6.7.5 I think) tonight when I get home and try it again.

:'(

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I changed the % to assist on all toons to 100.
I turned the mez parts back on for the bard.
I turned on xtarheal for the druid and tagged the bard in xtarheal=5.

It's almost like the tank merc has to have the mob pulled right over the top of him before he will engage. If the bard pulls around to the side of him, out of his line of sight, if you will, then he just sits there.
There were a couple times when it was a total wipe, except for the awesomeness of my necro's fd. Even the tank mercs owner would die and the merc will stand there like he is mezzed, or set on passive.

I have tried this with auto assist on and off. With merc set to assist and aggressive. Same. Once in a blue moon, the merc will assist and everything works fine. About half of the time it seems that he only assists when I send my pet in. It's like he doesn't see that bard as part of the group.

It seems that if I set everyone except the mercs owner to kissassist the merc, and set the mercs owner (95 shaman) to kissassist assist the bard, then it works out a little better.

I'll just have to revert back to pulling with the necro and let the bard sit there and sing, unless you can give me some other ideas. I will try the newest kissassist release (6.7.5 I think) tonight when I get home and try it again.

:'(

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Also, if you can look at the ini's. The group invite feature has never worked for me. I have to manually accept group invites on each toon.
Any ideas there?

If you have the bard set to puller in the group roles, then the tank merc is doing exactly what he's supposed to. If you don't, then there's a bug with the merc. I don't think it has anything to do with the Macro. I could be wrong on that, but just what I'm seeing from reading this. Trust me, I have to set myself to puller as well, and it causes issues for me sometimes. I two box a ranger and zerker with a wizard and healer merc right now.

 

[nostress]

I remember having mq2melee mess with my merc assist before. If the person with the merc out is set as a puller MQ2melee would put the merc into passive mode untill you engaged in melee combat. Check on that.

 

[Maskoi]

Our version of MQ2Melee can't do that. It has no coding what so ever to do with mercs. Unless you have a holyshit or something you put in your ini file.

 

[nostress]

Yeah, you're right Maskoi couldn't be mq2melee. I can't remember what was causing it =\

Is your shammy invis? Mercs won't do anything if their pc is invis.


Try and troubleshoot it without anything running, just plain out EQ.

Have the shammy with the tank sit somewhere, no macros no nothing. Then pull with the bard. If the merc doesn't take it off you, fade and see if he picks it up then.

From there try it with the bard set as puller, and the merc set as the tank, etc etc.

If it works one why one at a time try introducing everything else back in. MQ2, then Kiss, then group members.

 

[Maskoi]

Good idea

 

[lostangelintx]

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll try those things when I get home this evening.

Also, Maskoi, my group has never automatically accepted group invites. I always have to manually click follow on each char. Not sure what is happening there.

 

[Akatora]

try setting the merc assist at 99, and have the rest of them all assist at 99 off the merc tank.. so once the mob gets to camp he will womp you for 1 second, and take damage from the DS and the merc tank SHOULD grab aggro

oh yeah, pull with slow instead of BB, that should help

 

[lostangelintx]

I'll give that a shot Akatora, thanks.

Also, I set up a hotkey /assist bard's name on the shaman with the tank merc.
He will assist (and the merc and all the other macros will join him) if I hit the hot key.
So it's something to do with the shaman. I'll probably re-download mq2 and the kissassist packages first, and then start completely from scratch.
I am also running 4 of these accounts and mq2/kissassist/eqbc on the same tower pc. 2.7GB 8 GB ram. 250 GB HDD. It isn't bogging it down very much, if at all. Also my internet speed isn't that great.
3 MB DSL. Could lag and pc speed have anything to do with this problem?

 

[Akatora]

should just be able to have all the boxes assist off the merc and call it a day, as long as bard does 1 point of damage to the mob when its in camp the merc should take over, and the rest should dps from there by assisting off him

 

[lostangelintx]

Working now.
clean install of all components EQ, MQ2, kissassist, etc

Dismissed both merc and re-hired them, just to make sure.
Everything appears to be working, so far. We'll see

 

[Akatora]

what did you do differently to get it to work perfectly now? were you still doing the same thing, and just had a fresh install?

 

[lostangelintx]

what did you do differently to get it to work perfectly now? were you still doing the same thing, and just had a fresh install?

yep. just clean install. When I had just eq running and shaman/bard only grouped, the merc wouldn't attach anything bard pulled in. Wouldn't even attack if I was on shaman and attached the mob with the shaman. Merc just sat there.
Re=installed EQ, MQ2 and kissassist. Dismissed both merc and re-hired them both. Still have tank on shaman and healer on necro.

Literally nothing changed except clean install. Weird...but there you go.

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Everything still working properly. Now, if I can just get the bard to stop pulling more than 1 at a time, we would be golden. Even 2 would be better. But at least the whole group isn't wiping every pull. Just the bard every other pull lol