Tip - Managing a Box Army? (1 Viewer)

[runcade]

I am on Rizlona and recently increased to 24 boxes. I am looking for tips and tricks on how to manage them outside of things like in-game hotkeys and macros which there are already guides for. I know there are people boxing 50+ on that server and I am hoping to gather some info on it and put a guide together for new people.

WIndow Management:
I use a main eq folder and a box folder. When a box char crashes and I have to reload (using autologin) it puts that eq window at the end of the taskbar with no way to move it back into its position. Is there any way to rearrange those windows? I suppose I could make a different EQ folder for each one but that seems like overkill. I now have so many clients running I can only see the first letter of the char name in the taskbar. I have removed everything from the taskbar including the clock to give as much space as possible. Should I be using a program to manage the windows? How do big boxers switch between chars quickly?

Gear management:
How do you keep track of gear on so many boxes? I am uploading inventories (/outputfile inventory) to raidloot and then using their export tool to paste HP values into a Google Sheet so I could quickly determine who has the worst gear that needs replacing. Is there a better way?

Account Management:
Best way to set up alternate emails for accounts? I made a separate Gmail account for my last 6 but then Gmail wanted a phone number to verify and after a few it stopped letting me use my phone.

Key Plugins:
Mq2EQwire is basically required with that many accounts. Any other plugins that are helpful with managing box armys?

 

[krause]

For windowmanagment use Isboxer. You can hotkey windows and use character specific .ini
Its around 15 bucks per 3 months.

Its well worth it.

 

[Szazor]

[WINDOW MANAGEMENT]
I use ISBOXER to organise the clients and where they sit on the screen, and what window size they are. ISBOXER also allows you to have "Virtual" eqclient.ini files, and have very fast window swapping and hot key setups. It also runs perfectly well with MQ2.

[GEAR]
There are a few Gear Macro's on this site, if you do a quick search you will find some.

Sub Main
    /declare Tag string outer
    /if (${Param0.Length}) /varset Tag ${Param0}
    /echo Outputting gear and stats to Gear.ini [${Tag}Gear]


    
/ini "Gear.ini" "${Tag}Gear" "${Me}","${InvSlot[1].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[1].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[1].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[2].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[2].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[2].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[3].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[3].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[3].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[4].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[4].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[4].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[5].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[5].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[5].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[6].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[6].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[6].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[7].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[7].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[7].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[8].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[8].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[8].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[9].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[9].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[9].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[10].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[10].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[10].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[11].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[11].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[11].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[12].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[12].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[12].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[13].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[13].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[13].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[14].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[14].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[14].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[15].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[15].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[15].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[16].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[16].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[16].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[17].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[17].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[17].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[18].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[18].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[18].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[19].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[19].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[19].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[20].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[20].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[20].Item.HP}"
    
/return

The output of this little macro when you run the command from every toon ie /bcaa //mac Gear looks like something like this:

[Gear]
Toon1,138,3427,3246,595,6244,6698,442,6310,6310,139,3361,3229,65,873,902,74,868,897,572,6182,6698,415,6467,6630,447,5997,6497,447,5997,6497,296,6492,6547,540,6059,6564,247,6189,6730,445,6324,6588,340,6329,6487,340,6380,6421,923,6492,7032
Toon2,376,9460,9460,802,8600,9225,612,9271,9271,365,8728,8833,349,7695,7809,590,10826,10935,842,10339,11201,488,10796,11110,659,10029,10865,659,10029,10865,436,9350,9669,795,10132,10977,345,9209,9970,675,9405,9794,428,8409,8495,455,9539
Toon3,206,5465,5475,327,6700,6247,159,3051,3051,NULL,NULL,NULL,302,6313,6462,NULL,NULL,NULL,315,6633,6247,253,5620,5715,246,6434,6059,246,6434,6059,186,3744,3958,297,6501,6122,374,12220,11109,NULL,NULL,NULL,145,3174,3438,340,6382,645
etc etc.

Any can import it directly into an Excel spreadsheet.

[Account Emails]
I have all my emails set to the same email address. Dont make more than 5 accounts in 24 hrs and the account creation bot routine is a little more lenient.


More advice: Use the plugin mq2boxr. Its a god send.

 

[Hulda99]

Another option, is to use AutoHotKey for switching windows.. Kaen wrote a guide and it's pretty easy to setup.

I own ISBoxer/InnerSpace, but don't use it for EQ. I've found it's just not needed, and when adding characters, new teams, etc., I prefer to keep things simple.

 

[Mythas]

One thing I do for window management is have hotkeys for my "go to" boxes:

/dex Name /foreground

In addition, I made some aliases to help do it quickly:

/alias /you /dex ${Target.CleanName}
/alias /fg /foreground
/alias /here /dex ${Target.CleanName} /nav id ${Me.ID}

Etc. I tried ISBoxer but it did two things I hated; turned on music and messed up my resolution and window positioning. There's a program called EVEViewer (I think?) designed for EVE Online boxing (very similar to ISBoxer) that with a simple edit to the code to look for eqgame.exe works pretty well.

 

[mcbaine2]

Quick tip for anyone that wasn’t aware, you can use the same gmail address for all of your accounts for any service by using the plus sign.

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

all of those accounts will go to the same [email protected] but services will see them as different email accounts.

Tips to optimize your Gmail inbox - Google Workspace Learning Center

Google Workspace productivity guideOn this page Tips for filtering & sorting emails

support.google.com

 

[Redfrog]

Quick tip for anyone that wasn’t aware, you can use the same gmail address for all of your accounts for any service by using the plus sign.

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

all of those accounts will go to the same [email protected] but services will see them as different email accounts.

Tips to optimize your Gmail inbox - Google Workspace Learning Center

Google Workspace productivity guideOn this page Tips for filtering & sorting emails

support.google.com

Thats rather cool. I'll try that. Thank you.

 

[eqplayer16]

I make sure to never edit social keys directly. I use as a base this macro, and edit social keys through this, so that i can easily set the same social keys across all toons: https://www.redguides.com/community/resources/set-social-keys.1306/

I also use a macro to setup raid, it looks something like this. I removed a bunch of /declare Group1a charname from the top, but this will get all group leaders to set up their groups, then invite those groups to raid, make some raid specific changes to CTWN plugin settings and set xtargets for priestclasses.

    /echo Starting raid
    
    |main group, leader running the macro
    /invite ${Group1b}
    /invite ${Group1c}   
    /invite ${Group1d}
    /invite ${Group1e}
    /invite ${Group1f}
    
    |group 2
    /dex ${Group2a} /invite ${Group2b}
    /dex ${Group2a} /invite ${Group2c}
    /dex ${Group2a} /invite ${Group2d}
    /dex ${Group2a} /invite ${Group2e}
    /dex ${Group2a} /invite ${Group2f}

    |group 3
    /dex ${Group3a} /invite ${Group3b}
    /dex ${Group3a} /invite ${Group3c}
    /dex ${Group3a} /invite ${Group3d}
    /dex ${Group3a} /invite ${Group3e}
    /dex ${Group3a} /invite ${Group3f}
    
    |group 4
    /dex ${Group4a} /invite ${Group4b}
    /dex ${Group4a} /invite ${Group4c}
    /dex ${Group4a} /invite ${Group4d}
    /dex ${Group4a} /invite ${Group4e}
    /dex ${Group4a} /invite ${Group4f}

    |group 5
    /dex ${Group5a} /invite ${Group5b}
    /dex ${Group5a} /invite ${Group5c}
    /dex ${Group5a} /invite ${Group5d}
    /dex ${Group5a} /invite ${Group5e}
    /dex ${Group5a} /invite ${Group5f}
    
    |group 6
    /dex ${Group6a} /invite ${Group6b}
    /dex ${Group6a} /invite ${Group6c}
    /dex ${Group6a} /invite ${Group6d}
    /dex ${Group6a} /invite ${Group6e}
    /dex ${Group6a} /invite ${Group6f}
    
    
    /delay 5
    
    |raid invites
    /raidinvite ${Group2a}
    /raidinvite ${Group3a}
    /raidinvite ${Group4a}
    /raidinvite ${Group5a}
    /raidinvite ${Group6a}
    
    /delay 30
    |CTWN plugin raid mode
    /noparse /dgrae /docommand /${Me.Class.ShortName} raidmode 1
    /delay 1
    /noparse /dgrae /docommand /${Me.Class.ShortName} raidassist 1
    /delay 1
    /noparse /dgrae /grouproles set ${Me.CleanName} 2

    /delay 5


    |Set healer Xtargets
    /declare PriestList string local ${DanNet.Peers[priest]}
    /declare PriestCount int local ${DanNet.PeerCount[priest]}
    /declare XtarSlot int local 2
    /declare i int local 0
    /for i 1 to ${PriestCount}
        /dgex priest /xtarg set ${XtarSlot} ${PriestList.Arg[${i},|]}
        /varcalc XtarSlot ${XtarSlot}+1
    /next i

    |set tank xtargets
    /declare TankList string local ${DanNet.Peers[tank]}
    /declare TankCount int local ${DanNet.PeerCount[tank]}
    /varset i 0
    /for i 1 to ${TankCount}
        /dgex priest /xtarg set ${XtarSlot} ${TankList.Arg[${i},|]}
        /varcalc XtarSlot ${XtarSlot}+1
    /next i
/return

 

[Eltai86]

I use a series of sheets in google sheets to keep track of things, example sheets: anniversary, general (name, class, level, AA (color coded rather then numeric)), anniversary, equipment, type 5
For some things like anniversary it just gets colored when that toon gets it, otherwise white.
For type 5 I have a gear slot by character matrix I color code fill based on expansion they are using.
Equipment I use the same matrix again only with a 7 tier system for Grp1, grp2, grp3, tov raid, tov raid nugget, cov raid and cov raid nugget.

I find the color coding works well for me as I can quickly pick out of 50+ who would be priority to get things or still need them (eg anniversary, hunters, collects).

 

[Cannonballdex]

Same here, spreadsheets, I use OpenOffice, it's also free. Color code, multiple sheets, linked sheets, so many sheets you will need more sheets to keep track of sheets.
I have over 100 toons on several servers, sheet for accounts, servers, and each toon.

 

[eqplayer16]

We're all actually just playing Project Management Simulator 2000! Something about looking at those spreadsheets is sooooo satisfying (especially once an entire column is green)

 

[minxes]

We're all actually just playing Project Management Simulator 2000! Something about looking at those spreadsheets is sooooo satisfying (especially once an entire column is green)

Exactly this - wouldn't have it any other way TBH, lol.

 

[Fueil]

It's interesting that this topic came up, as I'm finally working towards my triumphant return at least on test for now. I definitely am looking towards a 54 crew, and my mind has been going non stop on the management. Not to mention gearing/hot keys/commands and just window management with isboxer (which I use). Luckily I'm a spreadsheet guy and I will be working towards developing a well organized sheet.

Anyhow, with all that being said. Running two monitors I plan to put my main drivers in groups on my main monitor, and boxes on the other. Not being able to see anything on the bottom task bar will drive me nuts. That is something I need to work on, im sure I will need to run two separate eq directories for that?

Finally, going through all content, 2 warriors or 3? I plan to have one of each knight also.

Thanks yall!

Looking forward to see how this post grows, ive always wondered how everyone manages such crews.

 

[eqplayer16]

Finally, going through all content, 2 warriors or 3? I plan to have one of each knight also.

I've been documenting some progression style raiding on test server to help give you an idea: https://www.redguides.com/community...for-non-progression-servers.70258/post-469468

 

[Fueil]

I've been documenting some progression style raiding on test server to help give you an idea: https://www.redguides.com/community...for-non-progression-servers.70258/post-469468

Thanks eqplayer16, appreciate that. I'll check out your post.

 

[AmericanNero]

Any chance any of the spreadsheets (minus player info) could be posted as resources? I'd love to see one, especially the augs.

 

[Eltai86]

There is a few examples of how I have my stuff laid out. For Paragon it is just a yes its done tick, type 5 red is TBM, orange is TBL, yellow is TOV, green is COV

 

[Szazor]

Mine looks very Similar:

I run /BCAA //MAC GEAR2.MAC

Sub Main
    /declare Tag string outer
    /if (${Param0.Length}) /varset Tag ${Param0}
    /echo Outputting gear and stats to Gear.ini [${Tag}Gear]


    
/ini "Gear.ini" "${Tag}Gear" "${Me}","${InvSlot[1].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[1].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[1].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[2].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[2].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[2].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[3].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[3].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[3].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[4].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[4].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[4].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[5].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[5].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[5].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[6].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[6].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[6].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[7].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[7].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[7].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[8].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[8].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[8].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[9].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[9].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[9].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[10].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[10].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[10].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[11].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[11].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[11].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[12].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[12].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[12].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[13].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[13].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[13].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[14].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[14].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[14].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[15].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[15].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[15].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[16].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[16].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[16].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[17].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[17].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[17].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[18].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[18].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[18].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[19].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[19].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[19].Item.HP}","${InvSlot[20].Item.AC}","${InvSlot[20].Item.Mana}","${InvSlot[20].Item.HP}"
    
/return

Which out puts a CSV file like this: AC, MANA, HP





I use the GROUP Function of excel so that I can click on an colum and expand it to show AC,MANA,HP - but usually its just a quick glance see exactly WHO needs that particular item.