Config - Magician PullerTank issues in PoShadow

[shadetree]

I'm having some issues in PoShadow, with a magician in PullerTank mode, pulling the Akhevans on the top floor.

If it's a short pull, there's not been any issues really. But on long pulls, the mag will run back to camp after pulling, then stay faced away from the mob, while the mob beats on his back, while pet refuses to engage and mag stands there casting no spells.

I've tried turning attack on and off in ini, that doesn't matter, still does same.

Can anyone tell me what's wrong? Here's my ini:

[General]
KissAssistVer=8.1.4
Role=PullerTank
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=530
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=11
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Praetorian Guardian Rk. II
Buffs2=Circle of Flameweaving Rk. II
Buffs3=Elemental Form: Earth
Buffs4=Memento of the Ungod's Suffering
Buffs5=Parogressio
Buffs6=Sycophant's Carved Loop
Buffs7=Stare of the Endless Plain
Buffs8=Ethersilk Wrap
Buffs9=Darkness' Chill
Buffs10=Magmatic Veil Rk. III|MA
Buffs11=Surge of Shadow Rk. III|MA
Buffs12=Improved Twincast
Buffs13=Gather Magnitude Rk. II|Mana|75
Buffs14=Shield of Fate Rk. III
Buffs15=Large Modulation Shard|Summon|Summoned: Large Modulation Shard|1
Buffs16=Summoned: Large Modulation Shard|Mana|80
Buffs17=Wand of Dark Modulation Rk. II|Summon|Wand of Pelagic Modulation|1
Buffs18=Wand of Pelagic Modulation|Mana|85
Buffs19=Negation of Subtlety
Buffs20=Phantasmal Symbiosis Rk. III|Dual|Phantasmal Symbiosis Recourse Rk. III
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=30
[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=85
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=Improved Twincast|2
AE2=Fire Core|2
AE3=Fundament: First Spire of the Elements|2
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=0
DPS1=Remorseless Servant|99
DPS2=Twincast Rk. III|98
DPS3=Spear of Molten Shieldstone Rk. III|97
DPS4=Force of Elements|96
DPS5=Banestrike|95
DPS6=Spear of Blistersteel Rk. III|94
DPS7=Elemental Union|93
DPS8=Spear of Molten Steel Rk. III|92
DPS9=Fire Core|91
DPS10=Fundament: First Spire of the Elements|90
DPS11=Elemental Union|89
DPS12=Thaumatize Pet Rk. III|88
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=Renewal of Hererra Rk. III|70|Pet
Heals2=Companion's Blessing|50|Pet
Heals3=Replenish Companion|20|Pet
Heals4=Mana Reserve|19|Mana
Heals5=Fortify Companion|18|Pet
XTarHeal=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Convocation of Air
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Burnout XI Rk. III
PetBuffs2=Maloseniac Eminence Rk. III
PetBuffs3=Velocity
PetBuffs4=Virulent Talon
PetBuffs5=Frenzied Burnout
PetBuffs6=Host in the Shell
PetBuffs7=Surge of Shadow Rk. III
PetBuffs8=Magmatic Veil Rk. III
PetBuffs9=Rathe's Strength
PetToysOn=0
PetToys1=NULL
PetToys2=NULL
PetToys3=NULL
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToysGave=NULL
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
PetCombatOn=1
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Silent Casting
Burn2=Improved Twincast
Burn3=Fire Core
Burn4=Fundament: First Spire of the Elements
Burn5=Stone Core
Burn6=Shared Health
Burn7=Armor of Experience
Burn8=Elemental Ward
Burn9=Arcane Whisper
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Spear of Molten Steel Rk. III
MaxRadius=600
MaxZRange=5
PullWait=0
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=70
ChainPullPause=30|2
ChainPullPause30|1
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=1
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=100

 

[Pyrochaser]

Not sure these things will help:

Firstly get KissAssist running on your mage and run a /kisscheck to verify everything is spelled correctly and so forth.

Next in your Melee section turn off Melee:

MeleeOn=1

set it to

MeleeOn=0

I noticed your DPS interval is 0.

DPSInterval=0

Maybe having this set so low is causing the DPS section to collide with itself trying to kick off a spell as soon as one is cast.

Also noticed in your pull section you have ChainPullPause twice and the second time doesn't have an equals sign which could be causing some logic to be lost in the automated parts of the script.

ChainPullPause=30|2
ChainPullPause30|1

----Updated----

And your MaxZRadius is very low at 5 and maybe as you pull the mob back to your camp and it's a tad hilly it throws off the ability for the mob to be visible (within Z range) almost like looking over the edge of a hill while laying on your stomach and not being able to see someone 10 feet away from you because they fall under your field of view. I recommend upping it to at least 50.

MaxZRange=5

Use Maskoi's handy diagram image to get a better understanding on how KA sees mobs in and around the camp:



I would also recommend adding a bit more distance in your HP variables to your DPS section. I.E. instead of having a spell kick off at 99, 98, 97, 96 ,95, etc. maybe give them more time between castings. Remember some spells take about 1.5 seconds or greater of time to cast and to refresh the gem, in that time the mob could be below 90% and a bunch of spells get missed or never cast. Maybe a routine like 95 (enough for tank to get some solid aggro) then one at 90, 85, 80, 75, 70 and so on, mostly for mana efficiency as well, nukes are big mana chompers. Just suggestions, it's your EQ and your char and you should be able to play it as you best feel it needs to be played

DPS1=Remorseless Servant|99
DPS2=Twincast Rk. III|98
DPS3=Spear of Molten Shieldstone Rk. III|97
DPS4=Force of Elements|96
DPS5=Banestrike|95
DPS6=Spear of Blistersteel Rk. III|94
DPS7=Elemental Union|93
DPS8=Spear of Molten Steel Rk. III|92
DPS9=Fire Core|91
DPS10=Fundament: First Spire of the Elements|90
DPS11=Elemental Union|89
DPS12=Thaumatize Pet Rk. III|88

This really stood out to me:

Role=PullerTank

Basically this makes your mage pull and tank.

Your role should be :

Role=PullerPetTank - This role allows for a pet class (Mage/Necromancer/Beastlord) to BOTH pull and have their pet tank.

Don't forget to set your character in game to the role of puller and your pet to tank. Can be done through the group interface window by right clicking the character name and navigating through the roles menu. This is mainly in the event you use a Merc, setting these roles keeps your merc from following after you when your mage goes and pulls.

In your Buffs section I noticed you had:

Buffs15=Large Modulation Shard|Summon|Summoned: Large Modulation Shard|1
Buffs16=Summoned: Large Modulation Shard|Mana|80

I believe this will work better for you if you remove the Summoned: portion of the buff both on the spell and the usage. If it works and keeps a shard constantly in your bag once the charges run out disregard this suggestion.
I always had issue with mod shard and rods etc when it was in my buffs section with the Summoned: in front of the item and spell. What I pasted below works great for my mage.

Buffs15=Large Modulation Shard|Summon|Large Modulation Shard|1
Buffs16=Large Modulation Shard|Mana|50

 

[shadetree]

Thank you very much for the advice, I really do appreciate it.

For a little bit more info, I am boxing a druid with the mag, have a healer merc with the mag and a caster merc on the druid.

I would like to keep the mag as the tank, and keep Negation of Subtlety buffed on the magician, that way can keep the caster merc on burn, without pulling agro.

If I set it to PullerPetTank, then the pet engages the mob so far away from camp that the merc won't even heal it. Like on a 500' pull, pet will engage like 350' away from camp, and continue to melee it there. Mag refuses to cast any spells on the mob and healer merc won't heal the pet.

I set DPSinterval to 1.

Removed the extra chainpull line mistake, in case it was causing the problem.

The ground is perfectly flat, so no issues with Z axis. I don't want to pull from the small ledge that circles around the area, is why I set it so low, but did change to 10.

If I can tank the mobs, why shouldn't I be able to melee them?

How exactly would you set your pet to tank, in game? In kissassist I understand, but it's not possible in game, I'm pretty sure.

Setting myself as puller, in game, sometimes keeps me too far away from healer merc when I return, and merc would then refuse to heal me. So that's why I don't do that. I'm not sure why this would interfere with me turning around and facing the mob, or the pet engaging the mob, or me casting on the mob?

So far I've not had any issues with modrods casting, I copied those lines from some other magician .ini that I saw on these threads.

After implementing those fixes... Set to PullerPetTank, and continued to do exact same thing, pet engages WAY out away from camp, and stays out there. Sometimes out of merc heal range.

As PullerTank, still same issue as well, back stays to mob, while it beats on me (until caster merc gains ago) and never turns around, never engages pet, and never casts on the mob. This only seems to happen on the longer pulls, 250+ feet.

 

[Pyrochaser]

I also noticed you pull radius is 600 but your camp exceed is 530.

MaxRadius=600

CampRadiusExceed=530

If I am logically understanding this setting correctly you are allowing your puller to pull from as far out from your camp up to 600, however as he passes the 530 range his leash to camp breaks and the return to camp fails. Maybe by setting these to the same variable may help.

I did not realize you wanted your mage to tank, I thought you would have wanted you pet to tank the mobs.

Setting yourself as puller was to prevent your merc from running out and engaging before you got back to camp. You are right should have no effect on him spinning around.

I recommended turning off melee simply due to you being a caster "squishy" and assumed you didn't want to get hammered on by mobs. So you can disregard this if you wanted the opposite effect

the only other thing I might be able to recommend, is a rebuild of your ini for you mage. Just go in your macros folder, rename the old KissAssist_character.ini and go in game and run kissassist again (just assist a merc or something), then while KissAssist is running use the command /setdps 1 2 3 4 (1-4 represent the gems your DPS spells are memmed to) and slowly add things into your INI again. this is a last ditch effort in the event something went south in your INI we simply are not seeing.

You can set your heals (not sure about pet heals) and buffs the same way:

Fast spell setup. Add memorized spells by their gems to the ini file
THIS WILL OVERWRITE CURRENT ENTRIES.

    /setdps Gem# Gem# Gem# Gem# - write spell in gem slots to DPS section of ini file
    /setbuffs
    /setheals

- - - Updated - - -

You are right you can't set the role to tank on pet via EQ. I got myself jumbled up and mixed it up with a Merc lol

Are you targetting the pet when you run KA with the role PullerPetTank? Mine seems to function just fine.

 

[Maskoi]

CampRadiusExceed=530 is automatically reset if the pull radius is greater

 

[Pyrochaser]

CampRadiusExceed=530 is automatically reset if the pull radius is greater

Thanks Maskoi, I remember you mentioning that in another post somewhere that had a similar scenario. I thought about it after posting this and remembered you saying KA sets your maxradius and CampRadiusExceed to match once it starts running.