Problem - Kissassist Question, Mage casting when invis, breaking invis

[Warmonger]

While using Kissassist, my Mage will cast even while INVIS while i'm trying to move my group to another location, thus attracting unwanted attention while univis. My Wizards do not have this behavior. I can't figure out a solution.
I've watch him mostly cast buffs and rebuffs to his pet and doesn't honor the group invis!!


Here is his ini

[General]
KissAssistVer=9.2.4
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=10
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=7
MiscGemRemem=1
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Magician|105|FREE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Gather Magnitude|Mana|60
Buffs2=Shield of the Pellarus
Buffs3=Shield of Consequence
Buffs4=Dark Symbiosis|Dual|Dark Symbiosis Recourse
Buffs5=Wand of Dark Modulation|Summon|Wand of Pelagic Modulation|1
Buffs6=Wand of Pelagic Modulation|Mana|50|70
Buffs7=Mass Dark Transvergence|Summon|Wand of Pelagic Transvergence|1
Buffs8=Wand of Pelagic Transvergence|Mana|40|60
Buffs9=Summon Modulation Shard|Summon|Summoned: Giant Modulation Shard|1
Buffs10=Summoned: Giant Modulation Shard|Mana|75
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=Dichotomic Companion
GoMSpell2=Spear of Molten Shieldstone|Mob
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=0
DPS1=Heart of Flames|99|Me
DPS2=Twincast|98
DPS3=Remorseless servant|97|Once
DPS4=Chaotic Fire|96
DPS5=Searing Sands|95
DPS6=Force of Elements|94|Weave
DPS7=Shock of Darksteel|93
DPS8=Banestrike|92|Weave
DPS9=Eradicate Magic|91|Once
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHeal2=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Convocation of Water
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=1
PetShrinkSpell=Shade's Phase
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Iceflame Armaments
PetBuffs2=Focus of Primal Elements
PetBuffs3=Burnout XII
PetBuffs4=Auspice of Eternity
PetBuffs5=Virulent Talon
PetBuffs6=Companion's Aegis
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetToysSize=6
PetToysOn=1
PetToys1=Grant Visor of Gobeker
PetToys2=Grant Thassis' Armaments|Summoned: Thalassic Fireblade|Summoned: Thalassic Ragesword
PetToys3=Belt of Magi`Kot
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToysGave=Kobtik|Grant Thassis' Armaments:Summoned: Thalassic Fireblade1|Grant Thassis' Armaments:Summoned: Thalassic Ragesword2
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=1
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetBuffsSize=8
[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=5
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[MySpells]
Gem1=Chaotic Fire
Gem2=Spear of Blistersteel
Gem3=Spear of Molten Shieldstone
Gem4=Dichotomic Companion
Gem5=Surge of Shadow
Gem6=Dark Symbiosis
Gem7=Gather Magnitude
Gem8=Renewal of Calix
Gem9=Auspice of Eternity
Gem10=Summon Firebound Orb
Gem11=Remorseless Servant
Gem12=Twincast
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

 

[surfdog21]

I had that problem with my mages and enchanters.

I ended up turning buffs off = 0 because of that exact reason.

Maybe there is a way to inject BuffsOn=1 with some kind of BuffsOn=0 if invisible?

I'm no coder but maybe it can be done! Would be great!

Also when I am moving like you are saying I will hit my /end hotkey then just simply hit /kiss hotkey and turn KA back on when I am ready.

 

[Warmonger]

You are right, my enchanter has the same behavior

 

[Huttont1]

Or you could just pause it

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[Maskoi]

Kiss should not be buffing ever when invis. Do you what spell he is casting when he breaks it. It should be the same one every time.

 

[Warmonger]

The magician broke invis, casting Virulent Talon, Companion's Aegis, and Dark Symbiosis on pet using the above .ini
I believe he also broke invis to summon Wand of Dark Modulation, and Shield of Consequence.

 

[TreeHuginDruid]

Well ... CheckPetBuffs routine has a proper call for exiting the function if invised:

/if (${Me.Invis}) /return

However... I'm seeing something that stands out as a red flag in the CheckBuffs section.

All major and minor sections that deal with any buffing / summoning / curing / rezing / healing has the standard /if (${Me.Invis}) /return line...

However CheckBuffs has

/if (${Me.Invis} && ${Me.Class.Name.NotEqual[Rogue]}) /return

this should not effect anything.... and should still maintain invis / not break it / to cast stuff



Do you maintain any automatic buffing outsie of KissAssist ??? Like usiung downshits via mq2melee to maintain self clicky or spell buffs ?


THat could be messing you up if you dont have a global downshitif to take into account invis state.

 

[ctaylor22]

What THD said, but you could try something for us. create a hot key that has the following:

/echo ${Me.Invis} - ${Me.Class.Name} - ${Me.Class.Name.NotEqual[Rogue]}

Get kiss running and put up invis on your mage then hit the hot key.

Lets us know what you get. There were some changes this last patch, I know I found one of them. They reclassified some throwing items that were classified as ammo to Throwingv1. So there could be some other things we are not aware of..

 

[Warmonger]

I run the standard mq2melee, but don't have anything defined for downshits/holyshits. I did also notice my enchanter also casting a group 105 Voice (mindbuff) and breaking invis too. Odd, just the 2 characters enc and mage breaks invis.

- - - Updated - - -

What THD said, but you could try something for us. create a hot key that has the following:

/echo ${Me.Invis} - ${Me.Class.Name} - ${Me.Class.Name.NotEqual[Rogue]}

Get kiss running and put up invis on your mage then hit the hot key.

Lets us know what you get. There were some changes this last patch, I know I found one of them. They reclassified some throwing items that were classified as ammo to Throwingv1. So there could be some other things we are not aware of..

I get:
[MQ2] TRUE - Magician - TRUE

 

[kaen01]

i might be dumb as a box of crayons, but could it depend on the buff or that makes you invisible?

 

[Warmonger]

Caught my enchanter casting Augmenting Aura and breaking invis

 

[ctaylor22]

I only found 1 place where this might happen and it would be if the Mage needed to heal their pet. I can't get my group to cast if they are invised. Now if you invis the group when everyone is in the middle of buffing, then invis will be broken because they are in the buff routine buffing and the check for invis is checked at the top of the buff routine and not before casting each buff...

I invised my whole group and then started KA and they all just stood there. Dropped Invis and they all started casting. Tried to invis the group and some of them broke invis, but that was bad timing on my part. Waited till everyone was finished buffing and cast group invis. Started clicking off buffs on each of my characters and could not get a single one to start casting.. I even clicked buffs off my pet..

 

[Warmonger]

Hmm, I usually invis my group after a fight, and move my group to another location as I'm trying to kill PHs at multiple locations. Perhaps after a fight, they are in that buff routine as you say and will break invis. I've seen my enchanter cast auras and break invis, think my cleric also cast an aura and shining bulwark on the tank, and definitely the mage buffing his pet and himself.

I LOVE kissassist, makes my life easier as a boxer. I'm just trying to figure out if there is a solution for the invis breaks that slows down the game to rez and med up the caster.

 

[kaen01]

so if they are in the rebuff cycle, when they are invised, they will continue to cast as if they not been invised?.

i was wondering, now, is there a way we could get an announcement in the mq2 window that buff cycle started, need x buffs out of x buffs to finish cycle etc.?

this way we know we need to wait a bit, could also be announced in eqbcs, that cleric is in buff cycle, at buff 3 out of 5 please hold on.

 

[AugustineSurfer]

I have a very similar issue as this with one of my wizards. While invis, I'll use EQBC to target my tank and stick to him. My wizard (while invis) will target the tank and start casting on him. The odd part is that this behavior does not always occur. I've not been able to figure out how to duplicate it and it doesn't happen often enough so I haven't tried to fix it. Instead, if my wiz dies, I'll just leave him while I run the rest of the group to a camp then campfire him in.

I also have an enchanter, 2nd wizard and mage in my group, but they do not cast when they're invis like my wiz does. I don't use any downs/holies either. I've had this issue a couple months now.

I noticed Warmonger and surfdog both mentioned that they have this issue when "moving" as well, so maybe this is happening because of how we move our groups? Do you all use EQBC? As Maskoi said, I don't think this is a KA issue as I've never noticed KA break invis.