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Problem - Healers won't melee if not in same group as MA

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Is this known and/or intended? Was just messing around with my clerics having them build up their melee skill for shits and gigs. Noticed my cleric in group 2 wouldn't melee the target (won't stop targeting MA so can't auto the mob). At first I thought maybe i had something messed up in the melee ini or KA ini so I just copy/pasted the cleric that worked and changed the name. Still no go. Then swapped the groups the clerics were in and viola. Any work around for this?
 
Post up your ini on the character that isn't attacking. Out of group assisting works just fine for me.
 
Actually I have run into this as well for MELEE outside grp of the MA.

Yes, the Melee outside of group from MA will seem to switch targets rapidly between MA and MA target and not actually do anything....

MY work around this is CASTERS assist and cast fine, so I put a caster in 2nd grp, have 2nd grp melee target caster as MA, and caster target actual MA.
Caster will then assist real MA, and melee will assist caster...
 
Meistro said:
Actually I have run into this as well for MELEE outside grp of the MA.

Yes, the Melee outside of group from MA will seem to switch targets rapidly between MA and MA target and not actually do anything....

MY work around this is CASTERS assist and cast fine, so I put a caster in 2nd grp, have 2nd grp melee target caster as MA, and caster target actual MA.
Caster will then assist real MA, and melee will assist caster...
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I could do that but my only issue would be that these are healers that I am trying to melee with. So if they aren't assisting the MT (which is in group 1) then they don't heal him. I know it's not really important to have priest melee, but still, lol
 
I don't know your group make-ups, but any caster doing DPS from 2nd group would get them attacking. A healer set to primarily heal does not have the same results as they don't target the mob much if at all...

I haven't posted any of my findings as a bug yet because I don't get the chance to test it often, and was still trying to note how it was working/not working.

But my total findings on this so far:
HEALERS from 2nd grp heal fine
CASTERS from 2nd group cast fine
MELEE from 2nd group switch targets rapidly between MA and MA target and not actually do anything...And this will include ANY toon set to melee weather they also cast or not....

2nd group Melee targeting 2nd group DPS Caster and DPS caster targeting real MA, melee will join fight after caster actually assists MA
2nd group Melee targeting 2nd group HEALING caster, who is not set to do any DPS/Debuff on mob will not always join in fight. My belief is this is because healer doesn't target mob, just PC's.

It doesn't matter if they are in Raid format or not, results are the same.
 
I have a melee doing outside DPS right now, working just fine.
 
They're likely targetting the tank over and over again to check hp % for healing needs. Have you added him to xtarget?
 
Hihi said:
They're likely targetting the tank over and over again to check hp % for healing needs. Have you added him to xtarget?
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You know never thought of that, My "Melee" is a Bstlord, who has heals on, so might just be doing that.....as I said before, hadn't posted the issue before myself because I haven't been able to satisfactorily test the problem.
 
Hihi said:
They're likely targetting the tank over and over again to check hp % for healing needs. Have you added him to xtarget?
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i'm sure that's it. I have no idea how to add players to xtarget, but that sounds like just what i need.

so i see this entry on the KA guide: XTarget Heal You can assign the healer to watch 1 XTarget slot for heals.
XTarHeal=0/1-10 - Off/# of XTarget slot to watch for heals.

This is kinda confusing to me....it says you can set the healer to watch 1 xtarget slot...and then below it says to enter either 0 for off or a num between 1-10 of xtarget slot to watch for heals. The only thing that pops up in my XTarget window are mobs that I have aggro with.

I'm on the TLP if this matters.
 
Target toon you want to add, select Xtarget slot you want to add them too, rt click that slot (1st - 8th), click on "current target" (3rd from top) and they are added.
then in HEALS section of KA set that slot under Xtarget
Rich (BB code): 
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Sabhattin's Mending|35
Heals2=Tirik's Melioration|85|Pet
Heals3=Salve of Clorith|60|Pet
Heals4=Warder's Gift|50|Me
Heals5=Companion's Blessing|30|Pet
XTarHeal=2 <==Set that slot number here
Suggest you DON"T use slot 1 for this as many macos like slot 1 for mob, and MIGHT (unconfirmed) cause issue in assisting in KA as well.
 
oooooh i see. and i can add multple players in there for the out of group cleric to heal? even tho it says "XTarget Heal You can assign the healer to watch 1 XTarget slot for heals" in the guide?
 
Not sure hoe this might work on TLP as TLP isn't technically supposed to have xtarget yet...

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KA will still only heal the 1 slot you designate,

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This is why I use the MQ2Heals plugin It heals ALL PC/PETs in Xtarget
 
gotcha. ok well 1 slot will work for me now. Since I just want the cleric in group 2 to still heal the MT in group 1. but ill have the cleric in group 2 MA a caster in group 2 and just xtarget my MT.

And xtarget does work on tlp, but there are only 5 slots, not 8.

Thanks again really appreciate the help !
 
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