Release Epic Laziness v0.4.25

[Mikey02]

Shaman 1.5 step 196. The FPS comes to a screeching halt when searching for named. Doesn't crash but becomes very unresponsive for a few seconds every search.

 

[Lisie]

Lisie updated Epic Laziness with a new update entry:

v0.1.31

[0.1.31] - 2024-04-23​

Bug Fixes ​

- Removed debugging print statement
(195ed5b) ~Lisie
- Pickup only a single item in npc_give_add
(63e6aaa) ~Lisie
- Better fix for lag with progress display...

Read the rest of this update entry...

 

[Lisie]

Thanks for reviewing my posts. I was able to finish the epic last night, just had to manually do a few things. Bard went off nav track in DN at the ring event with the casters and liches but after a few settings tweaks it ran smoother. I had the issues with both RGMercs and KA. I don't use RGMercs and didn't realize that was the default. I changed it to KA and it still had a few issues. I changed KA from assist to tank and that helped.

I am glad you got it working. The default for all classes is to use the CWTN plugins, except Bard is set to RGMercs Lua since the CWTN plugin does not exist yet.

Shaman 1.5 step 196. The FPS comes to a screeching halt when searching for named. Doesn't crash but becomes very unresponsive for a few seconds every search.

View attachment 60728

I will make a note of this and work on it first thing tomorrow.

 

[Kryp]

Is this meant to be run solo? For instance if I am running the Shaman epics is it meant to only automate the shaman's travel and no other group members if I am grouped?

 

[Teadin]

Just doing the beasty 1.5 per quest so far.. this works great.. I have talked 2 friends in to purchasing it now also to test..

 

[Teadin]

opps not sure how I did that post wrong but anyway yes works great and will be doing 2 more today also

 

[kraqur1]

ok i found where the issue was finally.. between step 711 and step 754, something to do with the letters of cease and desist, i just re did all of these steps and when i got back to talk to the paladin then hailed Smith Dandi i was seeing the correct text so i handed in the orb and got my epic 1.5.

This is for the Rogue Epic 1.5

Ok so this same exact thing happen to me and i figured out exactly what's going on.

So tried to di final turn-in and nothing. Kept handing me back the soulstone and couldn't figure out what was going on. I found this post and did stepps 711 - 742 over and this is what happen.

Go to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150). Say “tune” to receive

Notice to Cease and Desist
Go to Abysmal Sea and and find Galdorin Visigothe (-165, +220). Give him

Notice to Cease and Desist. He will attack. Kill him and loot

Signed Agreement. He hits for around 800
Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him

Signed Agreement. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.
Go to Greater Faydark near the Wizard Spires. You’ll see two Bards: Stefan Marsinger and Seana Marsinger (-1900, -480). Kill Seana first. Seana will put a Port Stone on your cursor, destroy it ASAP or risk getting ported out of the zone. Stefan casts root and will run around. Each will drop a torn

Signed Agreement. Loot both.
This is where the bug is. The script will never Attack the two bards. Then it just runs off to the next step after a little bit of time so we never get the 2 signed Agreements.
So script continues on

Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him both

Signed Agreements. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.

Now as in step 711 we say "tune" and even though we did not turn in the 2 singed agreements it will still give another notice to Cease and Desist and let us continue the quest.

When i reran the script starting at step 711 and watched each step 1 by 1 pausing at each step to verify against a guide i realized that once we got to the step to kill the 2 bards it did the turn-in but never attacked them. Then the script started running off to next step.
I paused the script and manually killed the 2 bards and looted both Signed Agreements. Did the turn in and got back to back flags this time

Inem R`ker says 'That's one Marsinger, now how about the other?
Inem R'ker says 'That should do the trick. I think our contact will speak with you now. His name is Lirpin, and he is a paladin that works for the Wayfarer's Brotherhood. I hear he led an expedition into Kuua recently, but his current location is anyone's guess. Good Luck.'

So the turn-in for the 2 signed agreements never happen the first time around and the second time watching very closely it tried to not kill or loot the bard and would have skipped this section again.

Hope this give enough info to help fix the Rogue epic.
And regardless of this one issue the plugin has helped me finish both my bard and rogue epic now and have saved me a ton of time. So thank you for what you are doing here.

 

[Dharknyss]

This is for the Rogue Epic 1.5

Ok so this same exact thing happen to me and i figured out exactly what's going on.

So tried to di final turn-in and nothing. Kept handing me back the soulstone and couldn't figure out what was going on. I found this post and did stepps 711 - 742 over and this is what happen.

Go to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150). Say “tune” to receive

Notice to Cease and Desist
Go to Abysmal Sea and and find Galdorin Visigothe (-165, +220). Give him

Notice to Cease and Desist. He will attack. Kill him and loot

Signed Agreement. He hits for around 800
Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him

Signed Agreement. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.
Go to Greater Faydark near the Wizard Spires. You’ll see two Bards: Stefan Marsinger and Seana Marsinger (-1900, -480). Kill Seana first. Seana will put a Port Stone on your cursor, destroy it ASAP or risk getting ported out of the zone. Stefan casts root and will run around. Each will drop a torn

Signed Agreement. Loot both.
This is where the bug is. The script will never Attack the two bards. Then it just runs off to the next step after a little bit of time so we never get the 2 signed Agreements.
So script continues on

Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him both

Signed Agreements. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.

Now as in step 711 we say "tune" and even though we did not turn in the 2 singed agreements it will still give another notice to Cease and Desist and let us continue the quest.

When i reran the script starting at step 711 and watched each step 1 by 1 pausing at each step to verify against a guide i realized that once we got to the step to kill the 2 bards it did the turn-in but never attacked them. Then the script started running off to next step.
I paused the script and manually killed the 2 bards and looted both Signed Agreements. Did the turn in and got back to back flags this time

Inem R`ker says 'That's one Marsinger, now how about the other?
Inem R'ker says 'That should do the trick. I think our contact will speak with you now. His name is Lirpin, and he is a paladin that works for the Wayfarer's Brotherhood. I hear he led an expedition into Kuua recently, but his current location is anyone's guess. Good Luck.'
View attachment 60732
So the turn-in for the 2 signed agreements never happen the first time around and the second time watching very closely it tried to not kill or loot the bard and would have skipped this section again.

Hope this give enough info to help fix the Rogue epic.
And regardless of this one issue the plugin has helped me finish both my bard and rogue epic now and have saved me a ton of time. So thank you for what you are doing here.

awesome work sorry i been sick and have not been so well as to go into detail on this i am glad someone else did. you rock

 

[kraqur1]

awesome work sorry i been sick and have not been so well as to go into detail on this i am glad someone else did. you rock

Was my pleasure to help. I love this script am glad I could give you a hand

 

[kraqur1]

Rogue Epic 2.0
Step 59 Unknown step.
This is in LDoN Raid
In this room you’ll find Sharalla’s corpse and Sharalla’s warder. Hail the warder and a few mobs will spawn and attack.

You do the Hail to Sharalla's Corpse.. then it says
Step 59 Unknown Step and instantly crashes EQ. Ive tried 3 times now and each time results in a full game crash.

Sorry to keep bringing you stuff to fix. But figure you would rather know than wait for a flood of others to mention it.

Please take care of yourself and get well.

 

[kraqur1]

Just finished rogue 2.0 and rest of quest worked without any hick-ups

 

[kraqur1]

Cleric Epic 1.5

Bug found:

Step 70: Kill a gilded chest

Cleric doesn't attack chest and never loots Aegis of Chaotic Worship

Cleric then runs to Nedaria’s Landing to find Tavon Vastsea and turn in Aegis of Chaotic Worship.

Since we never broke chest or looted shield in step 70 we don't have shield to turn in and breaks script.

I ran back to chest and got lucky, it was still up, broke chest and was able to continue quest.

 

[phillsphan]

Cleric Epic 1.5

Bug found:

Step 70: Kill a gilded chest

Cleric doesn't attack chest and never loots Aegis of Chaotic Worship

Cleric then runs to Nedaria’s Landing to find Tavon Vastsea and turn in Aegis of Chaotic Worship.

Since we never broke chest or looted shield in step 70 we don't have shield to turn in and breaks script.

I ran back to chest and got lucky, it was still up, broke chest and was able to continue quest.

This happened to me with 3 different clerics

 

[Barnal]

Bard 2.0 Noble's Causeway farming Black Chaos Gauntlets: the loop will run through once, killing all stalkers and bazu, then in will stop (for 6 hours). I had to manually reset it and keep resetting it each time the clear loop finishes. The GUI prompt will return to targeting neared murkglider stalker, but it will not act accordingly.

 

[Teadin]

bump make that 5 now

 

[Teadin]

Also think I noticed more hang ups while trying to do 4 epics at one time with 6 accounts loaded. So I think 1 at a time given parameters would do best. Been yrs since I programmed anything but still taxing on mq I would think to try to many at one time.

 

[Lisie]

Is this meant to be run solo? For instance if I am running the Shaman epics is it meant to only automate the shaman's travel and no other group members if I am grouped?

If you are grouped, and wish to have another character in the group (or the whole group) assist you, you may select either a character's name, or "group" in the second drop down box. Character names will only appear if you are in the same zone as that character.

Whatever you have selected should then follow along and assist the character running the script.

The most important use of this is in the Shaman 1.0 epic when you start having to lockpick doors to reach certain npcs in City of Mist. By selecting either "group" or a character that is a lockpicker the script will instruct them to pick the locks for you so that you may advance in the quest.

 

[Lisie]

This is for the Rogue Epic 1.5

Ok so this same exact thing happen to me and i figured out exactly what's going on.

So tried to di final turn-in and nothing. Kept handing me back the soulstone and couldn't figure out what was going on. I found this post and did stepps 711 - 742 over and this is what happen.

Go to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150). Say “tune” to receive

Notice to Cease and Desist
Go to Abysmal Sea and and find Galdorin Visigothe (-165, +220). Give him

Notice to Cease and Desist. He will attack. Kill him and loot

Signed Agreement. He hits for around 800
Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him

Signed Agreement. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.
Go to Greater Faydark near the Wizard Spires. You’ll see two Bards: Stefan Marsinger and Seana Marsinger (-1900, -480). Kill Seana first. Seana will put a Port Stone on your cursor, destroy it ASAP or risk getting ported out of the zone. Stefan casts root and will run around. Each will drop a torn

Signed Agreement. Loot both.
This is where the bug is. The script will never Attack the two bards. Then it just runs off to the next step after a little bit of time so we never get the 2 signed Agreements.
So script continues on

Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him both

Signed Agreements. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.

Now as in step 711 we say "tune" and even though we did not turn in the 2 singed agreements it will still give another notice to Cease and Desist and let us continue the quest.

When i reran the script starting at step 711 and watched each step 1 by 1 pausing at each step to verify against a guide i realized that once we got to the step to kill the 2 bards it did the turn-in but never attacked them. Then the script started running off to next step.
I paused the script and manually killed the 2 bards and looted both Signed Agreements. Did the turn in and got back to back flags this time

Inem R`ker says 'That's one Marsinger, now how about the other?
Inem R'ker says 'That should do the trick. I think our contact will speak with you now. His name is Lirpin, and he is a paladin that works for the Wayfarer's Brotherhood. I hear he led an expedition into Kuua recently, but his current location is anyone's guess. Good Luck.'
View attachment 60732
So the turn-in for the 2 signed agreements never happen the first time around and the second time watching very closely it tried to not kill or loot the bard and would have skipped this section again.

Hope this give enough info to help fix the Rogue epic.
And regardless of this one issue the plugin has helped me finish both my bard and rogue epic now and have saved me a ton of time. So thank you for what you are doing here.

Thank you for the amazing detail in this post. I will take a look into this tonight and try and clear it up.

Rogue Epic 2.0
Step 59 Unknown step.
This is in LDoN Raid
In this room you’ll find Sharalla’s corpse and Sharalla’s warder. Hail the warder and a few mobs will spawn and attack.

You do the Hail to Sharalla's Corpse.. then it says
Step 59 Unknown Step and instantly crashes EQ. Ive tried 3 times now and each time results in a full game crash.

Sorry to keep bringing you stuff to fix. But figure you would rather know than wait for a flood of others to mention it.

Please take care of yourself and get well.

I will get this taken care of.

Cleric Epic 1.5

Bug found:

Step 70: Kill a gilded chest

Cleric doesn't attack chest and never loots Aegis of Chaotic Worship

Cleric then runs to Nedaria’s Landing to find Tavon Vastsea and turn in Aegis of Chaotic Worship.

Since we never broke chest or looted shield in step 70 we don't have shield to turn in and breaks script.

I ran back to chest and got lucky, it was still up, broke chest and was able to continue quest.

I tried a fix for this but it apparently did not work. I will take another look at this.

Bard 2.0 Noble's Causeway farming Black Chaos Gauntlets: the loop will run through once, killing all stalkers and bazu, then in will stop (for 6 hours). I had to manually reset it and keep resetting it each time the clear loop finishes. The GUI prompt will return to targeting neared murkglider stalker, but it will not act accordingly.

Thank you, I will take a look at this tonight.

Also think I noticed more hang ups while trying to do 4 epics at one time with 6 accounts loaded. So I think 1 at a time given parameters would do best. Been yrs since I programmed anything but still taxing on mq I would think to try to many at one time.

What kind of hang up were you running into? Was it 4 of the same class, or 4 seperate classes? There should only be a couple of functions which cause significant resource usage, and I am working on calming them down.

There is the chance for a potential issue if you manage to get multiple clients to try and write to the epiclaziness_class_settings.Lua configuration file. But the data stored in that file is not changed all that frequently, so it would be difficult to accomplish.

 

[kraqur1]

Np and no rush. I honestly feel bad posting all this but i figured if its in beta you would want all the feedback you could get. I'm trying hard to detail everything as much as possible to save you time.

Again this is a crazy undertaking and i absolutely love the script and all the work you've put into it. Even in its current state its more that worth the money i paid for it.
Thank you again for all your hard work

 

[kraqur1]

Just finished Cleric Epic 1.5 and found no other issues

 

[Lisie]

This is for the Rogue Epic 1.5

Ok so this same exact thing happen to me and i figured out exactly what's going on.

So tried to di final turn-in and nothing. Kept handing me back the soulstone and couldn't figure out what was going on. I found this post and did stepps 711 - 742 over and this is what happen.

Go to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150). Say “tune” to receive

Notice to Cease and Desist
Go to Abysmal Sea and and find Galdorin Visigothe (-165, +220). Give him

Notice to Cease and Desist. He will attack. Kill him and loot

Signed Agreement. He hits for around 800
Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him

Signed Agreement. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.
Go to Greater Faydark near the Wizard Spires. You’ll see two Bards: Stefan Marsinger and Seana Marsinger (-1900, -480). Kill Seana first. Seana will put a Port Stone on your cursor, destroy it ASAP or risk getting ported out of the zone. Stefan casts root and will run around. Each will drop a torn

Signed Agreement. Loot both.
This is where the bug is. The script will never Attack the two bards. Then it just runs off to the next step after a little bit of time so we never get the 2 signed Agreements.
So script continues on

Go back to The Overthere and find Inem R’ker (+2860, +2150) again. Give him both

Signed Agreements. Say “tune” to get another

Notice to Cease and Desist.

Now as in step 711 we say "tune" and even though we did not turn in the 2 singed agreements it will still give another notice to Cease and Desist and let us continue the quest.

When i reran the script starting at step 711 and watched each step 1 by 1 pausing at each step to verify against a guide i realized that once we got to the step to kill the 2 bards it did the turn-in but never attacked them. Then the script started running off to next step.
I paused the script and manually killed the 2 bards and looted both Signed Agreements. Did the turn in and got back to back flags this time

Inem R`ker says 'That's one Marsinger, now how about the other?
Inem R'ker says 'That should do the trick. I think our contact will speak with you now. His name is Lirpin, and he is a paladin that works for the Wayfarer's Brotherhood. I hear he led an expedition into Kuua recently, but his current location is anyone's guess. Good Luck.'
View attachment 60732
So the turn-in for the 2 signed agreements never happen the first time around and the second time watching very closely it tried to not kill or loot the bard and would have skipped this section again.

Hope this give enough info to help fix the Rogue epic.
And regardless of this one issue the plugin has helped me finish both my bard and rogue epic now and have saved me a ton of time. So thank you for what you are doing here.

Next version will have a prospective fix for this. It's a frustratingly annoying step and deep in the quest so testing it is a pita.

Rogue Epic 2.0
Step 59 Unknown step.
This is in LDoN Raid
In this room you’ll find Sharalla’s corpse and Sharalla’s warder. Hail the warder and a few mobs will spawn and attack.

You do the Hail to Sharalla's Corpse.. then it says
Step 59 Unknown Step and instantly crashes EQ. Ive tried 3 times now and each time results in a full game crash.

Sorry to keep bringing you stuff to fix. But figure you would rather know than wait for a flood of others to mention it.

Please take care of yourself and get well.

Thank you for the information on this one! Next version has it corrected. As to the hailing portion. eqresources says to hail Sharalla's corpse, and allakhazam says to hail the warder. I have it set to the warder now, we'll see how it goes.

Np and no rush. I honestly feel bad posting all this but i figured if its in beta you would want all the feedback you could get. I'm trying hard to detail everything as much as possible to save you time.

Again this is a crazy undertaking and i absolutely love the script and all the work you've put into it. Even in its current state its more that worth the money i paid for it.
Thank you again for all your hard work

Do not feel bad at all! The reason I released this in a beta state is so that people can test it for me and report any bugs they find, or offer any suggestions they may have. 200 people testing is way more effective than 3, and lets me find these bugs as quickly as possible and give a better user experience.

I am glad you are enjoying the script so far!

 

[Lisie]

Cleric Epic 1.5

Bug found:

Step 70: Kill a gilded chest

Cleric doesn't attack chest and never loots Aegis of Chaotic Worship

Cleric then runs to Nedaria’s Landing to find Tavon Vastsea and turn in Aegis of Chaotic Worship.

Since we never broke chest or looted shield in step 70 we don't have shield to turn in and breaks script.

I ran back to chest and got lucky, it was still up, broke chest and was able to continue quest.

This happened to me with 3 different clerics

This one is going to take me a little longer to fix than the others. I need to get a cleric to that stage again to do some testing. Thank you for the reports, I will clear it up asap.

 

[Lisie]

Lisie updated Epic Laziness with a new update entry:

v0.1.32

[0.1.32] - 2024-04-24​

Bug Fixes ​

- Bard 2.0 properly loop in Black Chaos Gauntlets step

Changed DB step order to have farm_check after the npc_search statements. Should fix it to loop properly even after a full clear of npcs.
#614

(3777f9a) ~Lisie
- FIx for rogue 2.0 step 59 crash

#610

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[RobRenfro]

This is one incredible Undertaking. It's truly admirable that someone would even attempt this. And even more admirable the work the creator puts in every day of their life. Give them some respect folks they deserve it.

 

[Mikey02]

Bard epic 1.5 step 82, not picking up Hsara's Shade spawn from zone in. Using latest update for the zone files. The steps 95-102 preceding dark orb still have issues. Instead of just porting off without the dark orb now, the bard doesn't attack the NPCs to spawn the bone dragon.

 

[Lisie]

Bard epic 1.5 step 82, not picking up Hsara's Shade spawn from zone in. Using latest update for the zone files. The steps 95-102 preceding dark orb still have issues. Instead of just porting off without the dark orb now, the bard doesn't attack the NPCs to spawn the bone dragon.

I will need to take a look at step 82, but I've just put in a fix for 95-102

 

[Lisie]

Lisie updated Epic Laziness with a new update entry:

v0.1.33

[0.1.33] - 2024-04-24​

Bug Fixes ​

- Bard 1.5 steps 95-105 - Dark Orb killing and looting

#625

(a8db12d) ~Lisie
- Fixed tonumber on item.zone and comparing itemslot with slot (removed -22)
(986a50f) ~Lisie
- Fixed order that check for item in...

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[Mikey02]

Can’t remember the step off top of my head but similar issue in Kithicor forest. Seems like if hooded cloak is not up right away upon zome in, the step never register the spawn once they do spawn. So far 2/6 bards ran into this issue.

 

[Lisie]

Can’t remember the step off top of my head but similar issue in Kithicor forest. Seems like if hooded cloak is not up right away upon zome in, the step never register the spawn once they do spawn. So far 2/6 bards ran into this issue.

That should be fixed in v0.1.33

 

[Lisie]

Lisie updated Epic Laziness with a new update entry:

v0.1.34

[0.1.34] - 2024-04-24​

Bug Fixes ​

- Pause navigation for clearxtarg, then resume
(e887d50) ~Lisie

Features ​

- Version bump to 0.1.34
(8c30b53) ~Lisie

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[tshadow]

Well I did the beastlord 2.0 all the way to the end and missed the exchange and it didn't say ready on the last step before the event stopped. Now don't have 1.5 or 2.0. Bummer, missed it as I had to answer the door. LOL. Did great up until that part. All i had to do was log out and then when i logged back in and hail and said continue. This replayed and was able to say ready and boom got 2.0!! Thanks!!

 

[Lisie]

Lisie updated Epic Laziness with a new update entry:

v0.1.35

[0.1.35] - 2024-04-24​

Features ​

- Version bump 0.1.35
(f8bfaae) ~Lisie

Commits​

- Shaman 1.0 dropping lev when it shouldnt
(ce61da9) ~Lisie

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[kraqur1]

Just finished Cleric 2.0 and only "issue" i found.. is some of the fights it sets CWTN to tank mode. Based of all the other epics ive done using this script i believe it was meant to be Hunter Tank instead. Its for all the farming areas throughout the Cleric 2.0. Sets cleric to tank and just sits down instead of farming. Once i manually change to Hunter Tank it farms items as intended and continues on once found.

 

[Kryp]

On the Shaman EPIC 1.0 im getting stuck at step 147 trying to navigate to the next location. Keeps spamming this message (i have the latest mesh).

 

[Lisie]

On the Shaman EPIC 1.0 im getting stuck at step 147 trying to navigate to the next location. Keeps spamming this message (i have the latest mesh).

View attachment 60763

Do you have a lockpicker with you? (that the script is controlling)

 

[Kryp]

Do you have a lockpicker with you? (that the script is controlling)

Yes rogue grouped and selected in the epic Lua drop down.

Rogue had just picked the previous 2 doors prior to this.

 

[Mikey02]

Sham 1.5 step 157, same thing with destination not being reach. All the latest mesh.

 

[Lisie]

Yes rogue grouped and selected in the epic Lua drop down.

Rogue had just picked the previous 2 doors prior to this.

Sham 1.5 step 157, same thing with destination not being reach. All the latest mesh.

Alright I have a shaman near this step right now. I will give it some testing once I wake up and see if I can figure out what is happening.

 

[Lisie]

On the Shaman EPIC 1.0 im getting stuck at step 147 trying to navigate to the next location. Keeps spamming this message (i have the latest mesh).

View attachment 60763

I took a look at this and double checked. Inability to reach that location is a navmesh issue. There was a new mesh for city of mist uploaded to https://github.com/yb-f/meshes on 4/17/24.

I have updated the hash checks to correctly identify this new version. If you could redownload this mesh and let me know if that fixes the issue I would be very appreciative.

Sham 1.5 step 157, same thing with destination not being reach. All the latest mesh.

Step 157 is a loot step. Log/console messaging from the point where it was failing would be very helpful to aid in troubleshooting this.

 

[Lisie]

Just finished Cleric 2.0 and only "issue" i found.. is some of the fights it sets CWTN to tank mode. Based of all the other epics ive done using this script i believe it was meant to be Hunter Tank instead. Its for all the farming areas throughout the Cleric 2.0. Sets cleric to tank and just sits down instead of farming. Once i manually change to Hunter Tank it farms items as intended and continues on once found.

It does set it to huntertank, but I swear in some cases it just does not take. I will see if i can narrow down what is happening