Problem - Cleric keeps letting the tank die

[Ordell]

This is getting annoying as hell. I've posted on this before and never could find a solution. Maybe this time.

My cleric is raid geared, max AA, with rank 3 spells. And he keeps sitting around with his thumbs up his ass as the tank's HPs drop. I watch the cleric and he does nothing. He's not medding, not meming spells, not casting. Just standing there. Here is my ini. Please, help me.

[General]KissAssistVer=10.0.6.4
Role=Healer
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=20
MedOn=1
MedStart=70
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=0
GroupWatchOn=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=12
HoTTOn=1
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|110|GOLD
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
ConditionsOn=0
KissAssistVer=10.2.5
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=110 Cleric
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=4
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
Buffs1=Aura of Divinity|Aura
Buffs2=Aura of the Pious|Aura
Buffs3=Veturika's Perseverance|Mana|35
Buffs4=Rallied Greater Guard of Vie|MA
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
BuffsCOn=0
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=0
MeleeDistance=100
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=1
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=Syllable of Mending|MA
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=1
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AESize=1
AECOn=0
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=0
DebuffAllOn=0
DPSCOn=0
DPSSize=1
DPS1=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
Aggro1=Divine Peace|99|>
Aggro2=Sanctuary|55|>
Aggro3=Blessing of Sanctuary|45|>|Me
AggroSize=3
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsCOn=1
HealsSize=12
XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=all
Heals1=Merciful Remedy|95|MA
Heals2=Spiritual Remedy|95|MA
Heals3=Merciful Intervention|85
Heals4=Mystical Intervention|85
Heals5=Furial Renewal|75
Heals6=Beacon of Life|55
Heals7=Syllable of Mending|65
Heals8=Ward of Assurance|70|MA
Heals9=Burst of Life|35
Heals10=Harmony of the Soul|40
Heals11=Divine Arbitration|35
Heals12=Word of Greater Restoration|70
Heals13=NULL
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
HealGroupPetsOn=1
HealsCOn=0
HealsSize=15
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
Heals16=NULL
Heals17=NULL
Heals18=NULL
XTarHeal2=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=Radiant Cure
Cures2=Aegis of Superior Divinity
Cures3=Group Purify Soul
Cures4=Word of Greater Restoration
CuresSize=4
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=1
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=7
Burn1=Fundament: Third Spire of Divinity
Burn2=Divine Guardian|MA
Burn3=Channeling the Divine
Burn4=Celestial Rapidity
Burn5=Healing Frenzy
Burn6=Scaleborn Illuminator Breastplate 
Burn7=Celestial Regeneration
UseTribute=0

[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=5
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullPath=NULL
PullMeleeStick=0
UseWayPointZ=0
PullRadiusToUse=90
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=2
AFKPCRadius=400
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events
GMailOn=0
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
GMailSize=5

 

[Jarsath12]

Change role to assist and healscon to 0. See if that helps.

 

[Maskoi]

Role=Healer
what he said. This is not a role Kiss recognizes
Role=assist

 

[Ordell]

Will do. I'll report back. And thank you.

 

[surfdog21]

This is getting annoying as hell. I've posted on this before and never could find a solution. Maybe this time.

My cleric is raid geared, max AA, with rank 3 spells. And he keeps sitting around with his thumbs up his ass as the tank's HPs drop. I watch the cleric and he does nothing. He's not medding, not meming spells, not casting. Just standing there. Here is my ini. Please, help me.

[General]KissAssistVer=10.0.6.4
Role=Healer
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=20
MedOn=1
MedStart=70
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=0
GroupWatchOn=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=12
HoTTOn=1
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|110|GOLD
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
ConditionsOn=0
KissAssistVer=10.2.5
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=110 Cleric
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=4
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=20
Buffs1=Aura of Divinity|Aura
Buffs2=Aura of the Pious|Aura
Buffs3=Veturika's Perseverance|Mana|35
Buffs4=Rallied Greater Guard of Vie|MA
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
BuffsCOn=0
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=0
MeleeDistance=100
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=1
UseMQ2Melee=1
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=Syllable of Mending|MA
GoMCOn=0
GoMSize=1
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AESize=1
AECOn=0
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=0
DebuffAllOn=0
DPSCOn=0
DPSSize=1
DPS1=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
Aggro1=Divine Peace|99|>
Aggro2=Sanctuary|55|>
Aggro3=Blessing of Sanctuary|45|>|Me
AggroSize=3
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsCOn=1
HealsSize=12
XTarHeal=1
XTarHealList=all
Heals1=Merciful Remedy|95|MA
Heals2=Spiritual Remedy|95|MA
Heals3=Merciful Intervention|85
Heals4=Mystical Intervention|85
Heals5=Furial Renewal|75
Heals6=Beacon of Life|55
Heals7=Syllable of Mending|65
Heals8=Ward of Assurance|70|MA
Heals9=Burst of Life|35
Heals10=Harmony of the Soul|40
Heals11=Divine Arbitration|35
Heals12=Word of Greater Restoration|70
Heals13=NULL
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
HealGroupPetsOn=1
HealsCOn=0
HealsSize=15
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
Heals16=NULL
Heals17=NULL
Heals18=NULL
XTarHeal2=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=Radiant Cure
Cures2=Aegis of Superior Divinity
Cures3=Group Purify Soul
Cures4=Word of Greater Restoration
CuresSize=4
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=1
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=7
Burn1=Fundament: Third Spire of Divinity
Burn2=Divine Guardian|MA
Burn3=Channeling the Divine
Burn4=Celestial Rapidity
Burn5=Healing Frenzy
Burn6=Scaleborn Illuminator Breastplate
Burn7=Celestial Regeneration
UseTribute=0

[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=5
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullPath=NULL
PullMeleeStick=0
UseWayPointZ=0
PullRadiusToUse=90
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=2
AFKPCRadius=400
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events
GMailOn=0
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
GMailSize=5

I loved the description of your cleric as your group slowly gets bludgeoned to death, over and over! Made me laugh! Just picturing the f bombs coming out of your mouth as youre staring at the screen! My sides hurt!

 

[Ordell]

There were plenty of f bombs, too. Not just from the cleric standing around doing nothing but because I 6 box and you never can alt-tab to the screen you need. By the time I get to the cleric, dead tank. And he is still slow on the draw with named. When I fight ROS named, once I click all the tank's hotkeys I tab over to the cleric and operate him manually. I don't trust him and despite the Burn settings, he does not launch them. I have to start Healing Frenzy and Celestial Rapidity manually.

It seems to happen less now but he still lets the tank die once in a blue moon. I suspect it's because I use the MMOBugs compile because I like the custom HUD I made that I can't get working with VVC. I see in the MQ2 window that the cleric aborts heals more than once for some odd reason. But with the down time for the patch now is as good a time as any to switch compiles and see if VVC stops the aborts.

 

[Jarsath12]

Wonder if your background FPS is set to low on cleric? Maybe he's just not responding very quickly?

 

[Ordell]

Would that make a difference? I six box on one PC so he is running in the background all the time.

 

[Frimp]

Here's some things I noticed too:

EQBCOn=1
Groupwatch=0 (only need this on for pullers)
UseMQ2Melee=0 (unless you are a battle cleric)
Medon=0 (if you are usually mounted)

Also, if you use Mq2Posse, make sure its set correctly, adding the names of each of your group members, so they dont trigger any pauses.

 

[eqtrader74]

MQ2FPS or the EQ in-game FPS limiters work by adding "sleep" cycles, so they actually do make the game respond slower if you have background FPS settings set lower.

You can test by having your cleric your foreground toon and see if it heals better. Then you could mess with the background settings until it responds well.

Consider trying mq2eqwire plugin ($10) which actually turns off background graphics but doesn't limit the response time.

 

[deathlock]

Maybe your cleric is busy starring at your Avatar..... I know I can't stop, what was this thread about again?

 

[Ordell]

Here's some things I noticed too:

EQBCOn=1
Groupwatch=0 (only need this on for pullers)
UseMQ2Melee=0 (unless you are a battle cleric)
Medon=0 (if you are usually mounted)

Also, if you use Mq2Posse, make sure its set correctly, adding the names of each of your group members, so they dont trigger any pauses.

So set BCOn to 0 and the rest to 1?

Maybe your cleric is busy starring at your Avatar..... I know I can't stop, what was this thread about again?

They are Australia's magnificent Coffey sisters. Google them.

 

[Ordell]

MQ2FPS or the EQ in-game FPS limiters work by adding "sleep" cycles, so they actually do make the game respond slower if you have background FPS settings set lower.

You can test by having your cleric your foreground toon and see if it heals better. Then you could mess with the background settings until it responds well.

Consider trying mq2eqwire plugin ($10) which actually turns off background graphics but doesn't limit the response time.

So I assume you are referring to Options -> Display -> Advanced, Max Background FPS. I have it at the default setting. What should I set it to?

 

[Frimp]

for Mq2fps, a happy medium setting is 60 for FG, and 20 for BG. I wouldnt go less than 15 for the BG tho. And I leave render at its default

 

[Frimp]

For everquest's setting for FPS, you want both sliders set to max. Else it will conflict with anything MQ2FPS is trying to do.

 

[Frimp]

So set BCOn to 0 and the rest to 1?

All characters should be using eqbc, so set to 1. this is how they communicate with each other outside of the everquest UI.

 

[Ordell]

I don't use EQBC. Never could grasp it but I just found the guide here so I will set it up and see if it makes a difference.

 

[Ordell]

Well I got EQBC running. So far all it does for me is the follow command, which is a huge help. Come to me doesn't work though. But it's a start.

 

[Tonytaz]

switch to KissAssist11 or use IHCMerc for cleric, works great. KA11 though is amazing for cleric so far.

 

[Ordell]

It is working nicely now. No deaths, no oh-shit moments. Thanks to all who helped.

 

[Sum1]

It is working nicely now. No deaths, no oh-shit moments. Thanks to all who helped.

One option you could consider (even though it’s working okay now) is looking into the plugin MQ2heals. I found kissassist was slow to cast group heals and patch heals in the End of Empire mission ... not that kiss is bad or I had issues with frame rate, but just the damn damage comes SOOO fast that it just wasn’t keeping up. So, I loaded MQ2heals, turned off heals in kissassist, and ran kiss alongside the heals plug-in. It works SUPER well. Highly recommend it.

 

[Ordell]

Update: After several more deaths I switched to a new INI here and so far no deaths. So I guess the ini just sucked.

 

[Sum1]

Nothing has worked. My tank has died twice in HS in the last 20 minutes. Maybe I need a new ini.

Set heals=0 in kissassist

Then load up MQ2heals (the plugin)
Then do a /heals on

Also, do a /heals help or whatever to turn on some items you may want.

Seriously, it works well.