Problem - Cleric doesnt spam heal anymore

dinekus · Feb 11, 2016

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

Its the section to tell your cleric how to heal and yours is pretty messed up. I am at work so I can't really help too much right now but a few things

You have you slowest heal on your lowest health percentage. You don't want to try and cast a 3 second spell when your tank it 35% health.

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Heals2=Ardent Light|35|MA

This I use only on my tank. its a OMG i am about to die heal
Heals1=Burst of Life|30|MA

Not a heal

Rich (BB code):

Heals14=Divine Indemnification|99|MA

put it in buffs

Rich (BB code):

Buffs1=Divine Indemnification|MA

Try not to use light spells when possible

Rich (BB code):

Heals6=Reverent Light|95|MA
Heals7=Reverent Light|50|!MA

I am sure you have lots of help here by the time I get home.

dinekus · Feb 11, 2016

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

Do you have all those heals memorized on you cleric?

That heal sections looks whackadooddle as well. I will upload my cleric's in about an hour when I am on lunch.

What level is your cleric?

dinekus · Feb 11, 2016

I got tht ini from the compile list by Lettuce if its whackadooddle lets remove it

even if it is kiss still should be spamming heals at 95% not 70%....

yes those spells are all memd on my spell bar

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

What level is your tank and what level is your cleric?

dinekus · Feb 11, 2016

maybe this will shed more light... Im in Crypt of Sul, can this be in issue? I have completed all the quest and all my characters sit at 100health and mana

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tank and cleric is 105

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

So that zone debuff no longer affects you?

Hrmm kiss is now hard coded to recognize that. That would be the causing issues as well. You heal section is still a mess though.

dinekus · Feb 11, 2016

the zone debuff doesnt affect me anymore

Well that ini is from the approved compile list...

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will anyone share a good ini file that will coinside with a raid cleric ini?

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

that might be effective a raid cleric my cleric is group only so its going to differ

dinekus · Feb 11, 2016

ok, still interested to as why cleric will not spam heal at 95% when ini is asking for it to do so

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

quick hack
in kiss mac find this line

Rich (BB code):

                       /if (${sectionName.Equal[Heals]} && ${Select[${Zone.ID},795,796]}) {

change it too

Rich (BB code):

                       /if (${sectionName.Equal[Heals]} && ${Select[${Zone.ID},7950,7960]}) {

toots · Feb 11, 2016

Dinekus, this is the heal section I use.

Rich (BB code):

[Heals]
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Word of Greater Reformation Rk. II|75
Heals2=Divine Arbitration|65
Heals3=Burst of Life|50|!MA
Heals4=Spiritual Remedy Rk. II|50|MA
Heals5=Fervid Renewal Rk. II|80|MA
Heals6=Fraught Renewal|80|MA
Heals7=Fervent Renewal|80|MA
Heals8=Ardent Light Rk. II|80|MA
Heals9=Ardent Light Rk. II|50|!MA
Heals10=Spiritual Remedy Rk. II|70|!MA
Heals11=Fervid Renewal Rk. II|70|!MA
Heals12=Fraught Renewal|70|!MA
Heals13=Fervent Renewal|70|!MA
XTarHeal=0
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
Heals14=Fifteenth Emblem Rk. II|70|MA
Heals15=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50

Maskoi · Feb 11, 2016

WTF is that? Who heals like that? Am I living on a different planet?

Is a normal box cleric light years apart in healing than a Raid cleric?

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[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Ardent Elixir|92|MA
Heals2=Promised Rehabilitation|85|MA
Heals3=Spiritual Remedy|70
Heals4=Graceful Remedy|65
Heals5=Mystical Intervention|60
Heals6=Word of Greater Reformation|70
Heals7=Fifteenth Emblem|30
Heals8=Divine Arbitration|25
Heals9=Burst of Life|25|MA
Heals10=Harmony of the Soul|25
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
XTarHeal=5
HealGroupPetsOn=0

toots · Feb 11, 2016

Out of all classes and looking at a fair amount of inis, I have seen the most variation in heal approaches.

I have two or three different heal inis. I use a quick heal ini in some cases; however, in group content my tank chugs along quite well using the renewal lines.

BTW thanks for tuning up the KISS healing response time. I may have to play with my heal sections a bit now that clerics seem so much faster to jump on heals.

ctaylor22 · Feb 11, 2016

Lizzard Boy is an Alien.. That explains a lot..

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dinekus said:
maybe this will shed more light... Im in Crypt of Sul, can this be in issue? I have completed all the quest and all my characters sit at 100health and mana

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tank and cleric is 105

Kiss was changed to test if you were in one of the 2 zones that has the debuff. We made the change because others were complaining about their cleric healing everyone because their health was below 75%. Now if there was an easy way to tell if not only the caster, but also the character being healed is not affected by the debuff or some way to know when a character is at full health and their health not be 100%, then we could mod kiss to work properly in those 2 zones.. But till then we have to what we can..

If you make the change that Maskoi suggested it will start spamming heals for you again..

Tovin · Feb 11, 2016

No reason to put Fifteenth Emblem at 70. It only casts at 45 and is not really effectively unless the tank is below 35. May be one of your major issues.

q8reflex · Feb 12, 2016

Have a look at this awesome Cleric Raid Healing quick guide:

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/cleric-max-raid-healing.212459/

I have it saved in my desktop, i always refer to it.

Maskoi · Feb 12, 2016

After reading that article and some other stuff this is the new ini I am testing on my 105 cleric

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[General]
KissAssistVer=8.5.3
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=20
MedOn=1
MedStart=25
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=1
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=1
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|105
CastingInterruptOn=1
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Lava Braxi Saddle|Mount
Buffs2=Aura of the Reverent|Aura
Buffs3=Unified Hand of Surety|Dual|Surety
Buffs4=Armor of the Ardent
Buffs5=Quiet Miracle|Mana|55
Buffs6=Divine Indemnification|MA
Buffs7=Circle of Divinity|Aura
Buffs8=Rallied Greater Ward of Vie
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=null
Buffs14=Null
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
ChecKBuffsTimer=30
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=100
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=5
DPSInterval=10
DPS1=Justice|80
DPS2=Ardent Hammer of Zeal|97
DPS3=Olsif's Retort|90|MA
DPS4=Shining Bulwark|95|MA
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Spiritual Remedy|80|MA
Heals2=Graceful Remedy|80|MA
Heals3=Spiritual Remedy|70|!MA
Heals4=Graceful Remedy|70|!MA
Heals5=Fervid Renewal|55
Heals6=Fraught Renewal|55
Heals7=Mystical Intervention|40
Heals8=Ardent Contravention|40|Mob
Heals9=Burst of Life|30|MA
Heals10=Divine Arbitration|30
Heals11=Harmony of the Soul|30
Heals12=Word of Greater Reformation|70
Heals13=Promised Rehabilitation|98|MA
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Blessing of Resurrection
XTarHeal=5
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
Burn1=Celestial Regeneration|Me
Burn2=Celestial Rapidity|Me
Burn3=Celestial Hammer|Mob
Burn4=Divine Guardian|MA
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
BurnNamed=0
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
TributeBenefit=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=strike
MaxRadius=100
MaxZRange=100
PullWait=0
BuffWait=30
PullMyHPs=25
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
[AFKTools]
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=/quit
AFKPCRadius=150
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=Word of Greater Reformation
GoMSpell2=Gift of Mana Spell
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=Null
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist

My spell list

Rich (BB code):

Gem 1: Spiritual Remedy
Gem 2: Graceful Remedy
Gem 3: Mystical Intervention
Gem 4: Ardent Contravention
Gem 5: Fervid Renewal
Gem 6: Fraught Renewal
Gem 7: Word of Greater Reformation
Gem 8: Rallied Greater Ward of Vie
Gem 9: Olsif's Retort
Gem 10: Divine Indemnification
Gem 11: Ardent Hammer of Zeal
Gem 12: Justice

dinekus · Feb 12, 2016

thanks masoki it fixed it

q8reflex · Feb 12, 2016

Umm.....Maskoi? you do need cleric Promised line spells for TBM

Maskoi · Feb 12, 2016

Silly rabbit that was so yesterday.
http://www.redguides.com/community/showthread.php/38200-105-Cleric-Template-for-group-discussion

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