Problem - Chase/assist issue

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

So I drive with my tank using MQ2Eskay and my bard uses kiss. I've noticed that when on chase mode and the tank aggros something the bard just STOPS where he is and if he is a certain distance away he doesn't move in to engage the mob. I've alt+tabbed back to the bard and seen him halfway across the map because he won't chase whenever the tank has aggro on a mob. In the attached image you can see the entire group fighting a mob, the mob is at 56% and my bard who assist's at 98% is just hanging out because the tank aggroed the mob while the bard was outside assist range. The bard will stay there until the fight is done then continue chasing. If he is within range he will assist, if he is out of range he just stands there until the mobs die.

Is there a way to increase the bard's "assist range" or some sort of chase setting where he will continue to catch up to the tank even if the tank aggros a mob?

Edit to add: It is not an FPS or window in the background issue because it happens even when the bard is in the foreground. Also edited out name on photo.

kaen01 · Jun 21, 2021

i hear about others that have this issue, i do huntertank with mq2war and a bard in kissassist and i dont seem to have this problem, so i am wondering if you could post your bards ini, and i could check up against mine?

BrianGragg · Jun 21, 2021

@SomeTester you might want to also blank the char name in the window title name area. Top left of image.

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

BrianGragg said:
@SomeTester you might want to also blank the char name in the window title name area. Top left of image.

Already did. Thanks.

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

kaen01 said:
i hear about others that have this issue, i do huntertank with mq2war and a bard in kissassist and i dont seem to have this problem, so i am wondering if you could post your bards ini, and i could check up against mine?

That’s exactly what I am currently doing. I have the SK in hunter and the bard in /chaseon

INI:

[CODE=INI]
[General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=Mana song gem
TwistWhat=1 2 3 4 5 12
XTSlot=1
Role=Assist
CampRadius=10000
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|115|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
MedStop=100
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=18
Buffs1=Aura of Margidor|Aura
Buffs3=Rallying Call|managroup|30
Buffs4=Rallying Solo|end|29
Buffs5=Rallying Call|endgroup|30
Buffs8=Tune Stuck in Your Head
Buffs9=Summoned: Glowing Modulation Shard|Mana|80/10
Buffs10=Wand of Pelagic Transvergence|Mana|85/15
Buffs11=Selo's Sonata|Cond16
Buffs12=Ice Bound Ulthork|Dual|Familiar: Ice Bound Ulthork
Buffs13=Summon Familiar: Ice Bound Ulthork|Remove
Buffs14=Scorpion's Agony XIX|Dual|Scorpion's Agony Poison XI|Me
Buffs15=Songblade of the Eternal|Dual|Symphony of Battle|Me
Buffs16=Jann's Veil|Cond15
Buffs17=Illusion: |Remove
Buffs18=Farseeker's Plate Chestguard of Harmony|Dual|Me
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=8 9 6 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 11 12
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=1
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=23
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Funeral Dirge|99|Cond8
DPS2=Quick Time|99|Cond8
DPS3=Spire of the Minstrels|99|Cond8
DPS4=Flurry of Notes|99|Cond8
DPS5=Frenzied Kicks|99|Cond8
DPS6=Song of Stone|99|Cond8
DPS7=Boastful Bellow|99|Cond14|once
DPS8=Dance of Blades|99|Cond8
DPS9=Glyph of Destruction (115+)|99|Cond11
DPS10=Deftdance Discipline|100|Cond7
DPS11=command:/pet qswarm|99|
DPS12=Lyrical Prankster|99
DPS13=Bladed Song|99
DPS14=Fierce Eye|99|Cond10
DPS15=Cacophony|99|Mob
DPS16=Intimidation|99|Mash
DPS17=${InvSlot[Chest].Item.Name}|99|Cond1
DPS19=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond3
DPS20=Selo's Sonata|15
DPS21=Thousand Blades|99|Cond8
DPS22=Blade of Vesagran|99|Cond9
DPS23=command:/bct draxshamwow //multiline ; /stopcasting ;/mqp ; /timed 3 /target id ${Me.ID} ; /timed 5 /alt act 41 ; /timed 8 /mqp |99|cond17
DebuffAllOn=0
DPS18=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=3
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=Shield of Notes|90|>
Aggro3=Hymn of the Last Stand|95|>
Aggro2nd=0
[Burn]
BurnSize=1
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
UseTribute=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=16
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Root].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Third].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Fifth].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Octave].ID}
Cond3=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}
Cond4=${Me.PctMana}>50
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Thousand Blades]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Thousand Blades]}
Cond6=!${Target.Named}
Cond7=${Me.XTarget} > 0 && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deftdance Discipline]} && ${Me.PctHPs} < 30
Cond8=${Target.Named}
Cond9=!${Me.Song[Fierce Eye].ID}
Cond10=!${Me.Song[Spirit of Vesagran].ID}
Cond11=${Target.Named} && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Destruction (115+)]}
Cond12=!${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Destruction (115+)]} && ${AltAbility[Glyph of Destruction (115+)].CanTrain} && ${Me.AAPoints}>39
Cond13=${SpawnCount[BARD's pet]}>0
Cond14=${Me.PctEndurance}>30
Cond15=!${Me.Buff[Illusion Benefit Greater Jann].ID}
Cond16=!${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerato].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerando].ID}
Cond17=${Me.Song[Restless Ice].ID}
[Spells]
Gem1=Aria of Margidor
Gem2=Arcane Symphony
Gem3=Pulse of Vhal`Sera
Gem4=Omorden's Song of Suffering
Gem5=War March of Radiwol
Gem6=Yelinak's Insult
Gem7=Slumber of Zburator
Gem8=Zlexak's Chant of Disease
Gem9=Sontalak's Chant of Flame
Gem10=Malvus's Chant of Poison
Gem11=Yelinak's Chant of Frost
Gem12=Composite Psalm
Gem13=Wave of Sleep
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=1000
MaxZRange=400
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL

[Mez]
; Use MezOn=3 if you ONLY want AOE Mez (this is how i run it)
MezOn=0
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=95
MezMaxLevel=118
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Slumber of Zburator
MezAESpell=Wave of Sleep|3
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=05/19/2021 19:43:43
ErrorMsg:=You cannot pause a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=10630711
BuildDate:=20210514
CurrentUI:=default
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0

kaen01 · Jun 21, 2021

okay campadius for your bard is 1000

thats too much, keep it around 30, campradius in kiss is more used for telling kiss hey i am now back at my camp when pulling and such and moving characters back to camp loc after a fight.

then i would also usemq2melee=0, it has a bad influence on bard sometimes when they try and mez.

and then TargetSwitchingOn=1 is primarily for tanks to allow them to switch targets. at will if you need to. for the bard it might be interupting him target selecting for mez and assist after the mez.

meleedistance=75 is good enough for huntertank, but generally that is the attack and assist if mob is within this distance. sorta like campradius is for mq2cwtn plugins.

B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y · Jun 21, 2021

I use KA 12 to run my bard also and I also drive my SK and have the remainder of the group /chase my SK. Here are numbers that work pretty well for me in my bard's KA INI file.

I found it's critical for my chase distance to be less than my melee distance if I want to ensure the bard always catches up and engages the mob.

[CODE lang="ini" highlight="4, 8, 15"][General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
Role=Assist
CampRadius=55
CampRadiusExceed=600
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=25

[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=70
StickHow=loose 65%
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
MeleeTwistOn=2
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[/CODE]

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y said:
I use KA 12 to run my bard also and I also drive my SK and have the remainder of the group /chase my SK. Here are numbers that work pretty well for me in my bard's KA INI file.

I found it's critical for my chase distance to be less than my melee distance if I want to ensure the bard always catches up and engages the mob.

[CODE lang="ini" highlight="4, 8, 15"][General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
Role=Assist
CampRadius=55
CampRadiusExceed=600
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=25

[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=70
StickHow=loose 65%
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
MeleeTwistOn=2
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[/CODE]

My melee distance is 75 and chase is 25. The problem is once the SK gets aggro l,the bard just stops running he doesn’t catch up at all until after the mob is dead.

kaen01 · Jun 21, 2021

its because of the 1000 campradius

AmericanNero · Jun 21, 2021

mq window also has a name.

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

AmericanNero said:
mq window also has a name.

So many names lol

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

kaen01 said:
its because of the 1000 campradius

I’ll drop it down and see. That was the default in the ini so I left it.

AmericanNero · Jun 21, 2021

Uuuuusually camp radius is ~25-40. When ReturnToCamp is on your char will run back to the center, but, if the char is within the campradius, it shouldn't.

Szazor · Jun 21, 2021

in your melee settings you also just have Snaproll with no parameters.

This could be causing some issues.

Try

INI:

snaproll rear

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

AmericanNero said:
Uuuuusually camp radius is ~25-40. When ReturnToCamp is on your char will run back to the center, but, if the char is within the campradius, it shouldn't.

kaen01 said:
its because of the 1000 campradius

This makes a lot of sense. With a giant camp radius anytime the tank aggrieved something, the bard gets aggro because of his songs, and he just stops running because he thinks he is in camp already!!

kaen01 · Jun 21, 2021

the bard is basically allways in camp, and then when mobs are agroing the tank, he thinks hey there are shit in my camp, lets do something about it, and he tries, but they not anywhere near him.

Deleted member 241925 · Jun 21, 2021

I had the same issue related to medon=1 when doing chase. My bard would stop moving to med. Not sure if that helps.

SomeTester · Jun 21, 2021

kaen01 said:
the bard is basically allways in camp, and then when mobs are agroing the tank, he thinks hey there are shit in my camp, lets do something about it, and he tries, but they not anywhere near him.

He could sing louder damn it!

Problem - Chase/assist issue

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