Question - can you force KA to cast a dot on a target already dot'd

[timmy]

for some classes, casting a dot over and over, independent of it still ticking an actual dot on a mob, is considered optimal dps. enc with strangulate and bl with blood (while using vindication) are two that i'm familiar with. i, however, have not been able to get KA to ignore a ticking dot and use a dot as a nuke. even pure bruteforce like ${Me.SpellReady[${Spell[Dot Me Up].RankName}]} still won't force a dot cast until the current dot is expired.

anyone have a workaround?

 

[freeferli]

I was going to say use the Mash tag, but I did not read the "DOES NOT WORK ON SPELLS" Tag

 

[timmy]

that was a brilliant idea. i was like, man, if that works, i'll kinda be ashamed of how easy it was. however, it didn't work. i tried though, in case the wiki was out of date. i found a post from ctaylor22 back in 2017 that said GoM procs wouldn't even check if the dot was running at all, which obv KA is doing now, so i thought maybe there had been updates.

update: you can, however, force a cast with the /burn command! which is kinda a workaround, but not really the elegant solution we are looking for.

 

[eqtrader74]

DPS3=command:/cast Strangulate|99|Cond11
Cond11=${Me.SpellReady[${Spell[Strangulate].RankName}]}

I think that would work. It's also a useful way to do bandolier swaps, retarget swarm pets and some other stuff that KA doesn't innately do out of the box.

KA's dot code is hard coded to wait for dots to wear off, there's no avoiding that check in DPS. I think Burn doesn't even check if the mob has a debuff/dot, it just runs down the list and casts everything.

 

[timmy]

you're a genius, eqtrader74. works like a charm. thank you.

 

[ctaylor22]

Way way back during the day, when there were NO conditions in kiss. Necro's complained that they would keep casting DOT's over and over again and that kiss should only cast DOT's after they had expired, something about getting the max DPS vs Mana usage. It has been a while, but a few other classes chimed in and asked that kiss check for DOT's before casting them again. So that's why DOT's are not cast like nukes..

 

[timmy]

yeah that makes perfect sense and i was/am happy with how it works but i had a friend who mocked my bl ini for not spamming blood within a byzantine mess of specific conditions, so i just threw out a flyer in the hopes i could get him to stop his crying.