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Question - Bard pulls (1 Viewer)

Saven

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I have only been using MQ2 for a month, and cannot get my bard to pull, using a slightly modified version of Sics 115 Bard ini. He just sits in camp and will not pull. I have tried comparing the pull sections on other bard ini's, and have tried changing the settings to match with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Here is the ini i am using. starting it using /mac kissassist ini #####



[General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=1 4
TwistWhat=1 5 2 3 4
Role=Puller
CampRadius=250
CampRadiusExceed=800
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=0
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|115|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=0
LootOn=0
DefaultUI=TRUE

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=16
Buffs1=Zburator's Lively Crescendo
Buffs2=Rallying Call|managroup|30
Buffs3=Rallying Solo|end|29
Buffs4=Rallying Call|endgroup|30
;Buffs5=Dissident Psalm|endgroup|55
;Buffs6=Dissident Psalm|managroup|60
Buffs7=Selo's Sonata|MA
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=5
;Buffs8=Aura of Vhal`Sera Rk. II|cond17
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
Buffs8=NULL

[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=0
MeleeTwistWhat=9 10 11 12 1 2 3 5
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll rear
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0
TargetSwitchingOn=0
StickHow=snaproll

[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=3
AERadius=50
AE1=Fundament: Spire of the Minstrels|3
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL

[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSize=23
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Funeral Dirge|99|Cond8
DPS2=Quick Time|99|Cond8
DPS3=Spire of the Minstrels|99|Cond8
DPS4=Flurry of Notes|99|Cond8
DPS5=Frenzied Kicks|99|Cond8
DPS6=Song of Stone|99|Cond8
DPS7=Vainglorious Shout|99|Cond8
DPS8=Dance of Blades|99|Cond8
DPS9=command:/stopdisc|99|Cond5
DPS10=Deftdance Discipline|100|Cond7
DPS11=command:/pet qswarm|99|
DPS12=Lyrical Prankster|99
DPS13=Bladed Song|99
DPS14=Fierce Eye|99|Cond10
DPS15=Cacophony|99|Mob
DPS16=Intimidation|99|Mash
DPS17=Icebound Loremaster Breastplate|99|Cond1
;DPS18=Dissident Psalm|99|Cond2
DPS19=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond14
DPS20=Vainglorious Shout|99|Cond14|Once
DPS21=Selo's Sonata|15
DPS22=Thousand Blades|99|Cond8
DPS23=Blade of Vesagran|99|Cond9
DPS24=Spire of the Minstrel|99|Cond16
DPS25=Drums of the Warlord|99|
DebuffAllOn=0

[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=3
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=Shield of Notes|90|>
Aggro3=Hymn of the Last Stand|95|>

[Mez]
MezOn=0
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=95
MezMaxLevel=118
MezStopHPs=20
MezSpell=Slumber of Zburator Rk. II
MezAESpell=Wave of Sleep Rk. II|3
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell

[Burn]
BurnSize=1
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
UseTribute=0

[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=17
Cond1=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[${Spell[Dissident Psalm of Potential].RankName}].ID}
;Cond2=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Root].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Third].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Fifth].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Octave].ID}
;Cond3=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}
Cond4=${Me.PctEndurance}>50
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Thousand Blades]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Thousand Blades]}
Cond6=!${Target.Named}
Cond7=${Me.XTarget} > 0 && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deftdance Discipline]} && ${Me.PctHPs} < 30
Cond8=${Target.Named}
Cond9=!${Me.Song[Fierce Eye].ID}
Cond10=!${Me.Song[Spirit of Vesagran].ID}
Cond11=${Target.Named} && ${Target.Level}> 110 && ${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Destruction (100+)]}
Cond12=!${Me.AltAbilityReady[Glyph of Destruction (100+)]} && ${AltAbility[Glyph of Destruction (100+)].CanTrain} && ${Me.AAPoints}>175
Cond13=${SpawnCount[Bard's pet]}>0
Cond14=${Me.PctEndurance}>45
Cond15=!${Me.Buff[Illusion Benefit Greater Jann].ID}
Cond16=${Target.Named} || ${Me.XTarget} > 3
Cond17=${Target.me} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Aura of Vhal`Sera].ID}
Cond3=TRUE

[Spells]
Gem1=Chorus of Vhal`Sera Rk. II
Gem2=Aria of Margidor Rk. II
Gem3=Sontalak's Aria Rk. II
Gem4=Kellek's Spry Sonata Rk. II
Gem5=War March of Radiwol Rk. II
Gem6=Slumber of Zburator Rk. II
Gem7=Wave of Sleep Rk. II
Gem8=Aria of Absolution Rk. II
Gem9=Malvus's Chant of Poison Rk. II
Gem10=Sontalak's Chant of Flame
Gem11=Zlexak's Chant of Disease Rk. II
Gem12=Yelinak's Chant of Frost Rk.II
Gem13=Omorden's Insult Rk II
MiscGem=13
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist

[MySpells]
Gem1=Chorus of Vhal`Sera Rk. II
Gem2=Aria of Margidor Rk. II
Gem3=Sontalak's Aria Rk. II
Gem4=Kellek's Spry Sonata Rk. II
Gem5=War March of Radiwol Rk. II
Gem6=Slumber of Zburator Rk. II
Gem7=Wave of Sleep Rk. II
Gem8=Aria of Absolution Rk. II
Gem9=Malvus's Chant of Poison Rk. II
Gem10=Sontalak's Chant of Flame
Gem11=Zlexak's Chant of Disease Rk. II
Gem12=Yelinak's Chant of Frost Rk.II
Gem13=Omorden's Insult Rk II

[KissError]
LastCMD:=/if (!37) {
ErrorDateTime:=07/14/2020 20:12:32
ErrorMsg:=Cannot end a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=26274456
BuildDate:=20200709
CurrentUI:=Default

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Sonic Disturbance
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=100
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=20
ChainPullPause=45|1
PullPause=45|1
PullLevel=110|118
PullArcWidth=360

[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0

[Cures]
CuresOn=1
CuresSize=5
Cures1=Aria of Absolutioni
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

[Merc]

Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
 
Thankyou all for the help, will try again tomorrow. Limited testing time. Will try to parse the text for you. Goning to try both and see if it helps, Thanks again.
 
PullRadiusToUse=90 is how far from the mob you will try to be before pulling. 90 is ok.
MaxRadius=500 which is fine.
pullradiustouse is the % of the max range your pull ability/item/spell has.

so if you have a something that has a 100 range on it, and you have PullRadiusToUse=90, you will put at 90% of 100, which is 90 range
 
Sorry it has taken me this long to respond, Thank you all for the advice, I now have a better computer and can actually work on my Bard pulling. So far he pulls fine now, however i cannot get him to chain pull. No matter how i change the "ChainPullHP=" he simply will not Chain at any percentage of hps the current mob has. here is the pull section i am using.

[Pull]
Pullon=1
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Sonic Disturbance
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=100
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=80
ChainPullPause=45|1
PullPause=45|1
PullLevel=1|118
PullArcWidth=360
 
Chiming in here. I'm a buddy of Saven's and group with him daily. As I sit and watch, it appears his Bard is waiting appx 4-5 seconds AFTER the last mob dies before running off to retrieve the next one.What we're trying to accomplish is have his bard run off at around 15-20% left on current mob to grab us the next one. Zero down time basically. Non-stop chain-pulling.
Don't know if it matters, but rest of team is: SK, Cleric, Ranger, Chanter & Mage. He runs the Bard and Mage, I run the rest.
 
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I've found that if I'm using a slower computer in a high mob density area, the "searching for mobs" routine can take so long that the chain puller doesn't find a target until after the current mob is dead. This is especially true in in areas with multiple floors with mobs above and below.

Maybe try lowering your MaxRadius and MaxZRange or try a low density area just to test?
 
Tried all the suggestions, even lowered the PullWait to 0, he just will not pull til all mobs in camp are dead. Does any other section of the ini have an effect on puller mode ? Can anyone suggest a basic puller ini I might try ?
 
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