Question - Bard isn't playing regen while meditating

[Jax]

Bard doesn't twist the 2 gem slots (11 and 12) while med/downtime. Is something in the twisty logic interfering? Any help is appreciated.

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=11 12
TwistWhat=11 2 4 11 7 3 6 12
Role=assist
CampRadius=40
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
GroupWatchCheck=TRUE
EQBCOn=1
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|109|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
CheckBuffsTimer=5
RebuffOn=1
Buffs1=Aura of Maetanrus|aura
Buffs2=Silisia's Lively Crescendo
Buffs3==Rallying Call|managroup|30
Buffs4=Rallying Call|endgroup|30
Buffs5=Selo's Sonata|MA
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=1 2 4 11 7 3 6 12 
AssistAt=97
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=Fundament: Third Spire of the Minstrel|3
AE3=Cohort's Loremaster Breastplate|6
AE2=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=14
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Requiem of Time|99|debuffall|slow|always
DPS2=Deftdance Discipline|98|Cond7
DPS3=command:/pet qswarm|97
DPS4=Lyrical Prankster|96|Mob
DPS5=Bladed Song|95|Mob
DPS6=Fierce Eye|95
DPS7=Cacophony|95|Mob
DPS8=Intimidation|95|Mash
DPS9=Cohort's Loremaster Breastplate|95|Cond1
DPS11=Boastful Bellow|95|Cond3
DPS12=Reflexive Rejoinder|75|Mob
DPS13=Selo's Sonata|15|Me
DPS14=Thousand Blades|99|Cond6
DebuffAllOn=1
DPS10=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=1
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=Fading Memories|80|>
Aggro2=Shield of Notes|90|>
Aggro3=Hymn of the Last Stand|95|>
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=40
MezMinLevel=95
MezMaxLevel=108
MezStopHPs=90
MezSpell=Slumber of Silisia
MezAESpell=Wave of Torpor|2
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
[Burn]
BurnSize=10
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Funeral Dirge|Mob|Cond3
Burn2=Requiem of Time
Burn3=Quick Time
Burn4=Cacophony|Mob
Burn5=Boastful Bellow|Mob
Burn6=Fundament: Third Spire of the Minstrel
Burn7=Hymn of the Last Stand
Burn8=Flurry of Notes
Burn9=Frenzied Kicks
Burn10=Song of Stone|Mob
UseTribute=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=8
Cond1=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[${Spell[Dichotomic Psalm of Potential].RankName}].ID}
Cond2=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Root].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Third].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Fifth].ID} && !${Me.Song[Masterful Phrygian Octave].ID}
Cond3=${Target.Named} && ${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}
Cond4=${Me.PctMana}>50
Cond5=${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && ${Target.Named} && ${Me.ActiveDisc.Name.NotEqual[Thousand Blades]} && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Thousand Blades]}
Cond6=${Target.Named}
Cond7=${Me.XTarget} > 0 && ${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deftdance Discipline]} && ${Me.PctHPs} < 30
Cond8=(${Me.SpellReady[Requiem of Time]} && !${Target.Buff[Requiem of Time].ID} && ${Target.PctHPs}>65 && ${Target.PctHPs}<98) /twist once ${Me.Gem[Requiem of Time]}
[MySpells]
Gem1=Aria of Maetanrus
Gem2=Arcane Melody
Gem3=Fjilnauk's Spiteful Lyric
Gem4=Fjilnauk's Song of Suffering
Gem5=Tsaph's Insult
Gem6=War March of Jocelyn
Gem7=Doben's Spry Sonata
Gem8=Slumber of Silisia
Gem9=Wave of Torpor
Gem10=Silisia's Lively Crescendo
Gem11=Pulse of Sionachie
Gem12=Aura of Maetanrus
Gem13=NULL
[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Aria of Maetanrus
Gem2=Arcane Melody
Gem3=Fjilnauk's Spiteful Lyric
Gem4=Fjilnauk's Song of Suffering
Gem5=Tsaph's Insult
Gem6=War March of Jocelyn
Gem7=Doben's Spry Sonata
Gem8=Slumber of Silisia
Gem9=Wave of Torpor
Gem10=Silisia's Lively Crescendo
Gem11=Pulse of Sionachie
Gem12=Aura of Maetanrus
Gem13=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Boastful Bellow
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=850
MaxZRange=150
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=2
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=0
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=95
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/if (TRUE) /endmac
ErrorDateTime:=06/21/2020 03:16:36
ErrorMsg:=DoCommand - Couldn't parse '/chase off'
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=18475267
BuildDate:=20200618
CurrentUI:=default

 

[eqtrader74]

TwistMed=11 12
Gem11=Pulse of Sionachie
Gem12=Aura of Maetanrus


12's an aura so you shouldn't need to re-twist it, as you have it in Buffs. Aura's can also have a different sing/cast time than other songs which I've seen mess things up.

If you try just 11 or two other songs, does it work?

Is the problem the bard is actually sitting to med themselves?

 

[Jax]

I manually remove the aura from GEM12 once it casts and replace it with Chorus which is part of my normal twist also.

The bard does sit on med, which is fine, but he should get up and cast his songs too.

 

[eqtrader74]

Is it both of these or just one?

1. Is the bard dipping below your med threshold on mana/end, 20%? Like the bard is triggering their own med-time?

2. Is this when the MA sits and the group goes into "MA sits=I sits" med time?

 

[Jax]

Both. The tank is set on group watch to call for med. When he sits for whomever is out of mana/end the bard sits and doesn't play 11,12 regens. Sometimes it is the bard out of end, but rarely, and results are same.

 

[eqtrader74]

Sounds like there is a "twist stop" type command going off during the sit phase. There was an older bug in KA10 that did something like that. Maybe @ctaylor22 can re-create or he may need a debug log from you.

I think you can set it to one song and bard will play it, sit and med while the one songs runs. I'm not sure how the two+ song logic works if the bard themselves needs to med though. That may be an overwriting "sit now, no playing any more than one song" type code.

 

[Jax]

So I set it back to just the one song, but I watched for a long time and noticed he does play a song, Silisia's Lively Crescendo which does given mana and regen after a 30 second build-up, but I don't know why it is playing this unless there is some logic built-in I am missing, also would expect if the regen chorus was being used mana would regen that much faster. That's listed in the buff section so wondering if something is making it think the buff is never landing.

 

[Many_Whelps]

twistmed should only be one song. If you're medding, you're sitting. If you're sitting, you can't sing the second song. Bards always re-sing their current song when it fades, thus when you have just one song running, it will stay up indefinitely without recasting. This is how the bard class works. If you want to sing multiple songs during downtime, just disable the med routine and let him sing his normal twist.

 

[eqtrader74]

Edit: Oh the change I saw was for KA12 beta, so maybe try that one Jax.

ctaylor added the ability to run multiple med songs awhile back. Krycek's comment is good overall strat though. But KA12 (Edit) should run the 2 song med and stay standing, per my reading of the changes awhile back.

Med for Bards are tricky in that you want to do different things in different situations:

• Bard themselves is low mana - Bard should twist one regen song for group (bard gets no benefit) and stay sitting for fastest regen. Running multi songs means you stand up to sing each one.
• Bard is OK on mana, but MA sits - Bard should twist max regen which can be 2+ songs and not bother sitting. For super regen, you should actually swap songs and even switch to the mana regen aura. This is kind of overkill, but you can cut group downtime in half at least if you're doing multi regens.
• Everybody is OK on mana - Bard should run one regen and some buffs songs, so group is regen'n during pull time, but still pre-buffed with songs as mobs come in. Basically your TwistWhat instead of MeleeTwistWhat.

@Jax - Yeah that short-buff regen is under Buffs, so it will still trigger. It's something about the med routine that makes bard go "twist off" before a sit and it doesn't check the songs again. I remember KA9 or KA10 had a bug like this for awhile.