Question - Anyway to clear a target once combat starts?

[Mara]

My question is this

Once combat starts I can use backoff to stop attacking. So far so good.

The problem comes in in that the only way I know of to untarget the npc is to end macro and restart kiss.

I know that there is a way to do this as noobhaxor's auto macros can do this. I've done some searching, checked mq2 documentation and could not find anything on how to do this. It's somewhat annoying to have to restart the macro if I want to do this.

Any help appreciated.

 

[ctaylor22]

I am assuming you are referring to your MA. Because your MA will keep trying to target any target in your XTarget list and the rest of the crew are just going to keep trying to /assist off the MA..

 

[kaen01]

go into kissassist.mac and find the line that is /alias switch /switch.

something like that

and change the alias to something you can remember, i use /swt short for switchtarget

and then when it happens when i group with a charmer, i just hit a social with that as its command, and main tank just pops in a new target from the xtarget list.

 

[Mara]

Ah no you misunderstand me.

I mean to both stop attacking which backoff does as well as clear the target totally (without switching to another) effectively resetting the macro.

Sill, thank you for the replys so far hopefully what I want is possible but looking over the alias list and the backoff function it doesn't seem its an option. Though to be fair I am not a mq2 coding expert by any means :p

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And yes I am. ctaylor22.

The character in question is the tank/assist. She just keeps randomly attacking npcs if I forget to backoff before I hail them lol. This is reason I am asking if it is possible.

 

[ctaylor22]

Yea. If you have kiss running, and you target a Friendly NPC, on the MA/Tank they will start attacking. Once the tank starts attacking, does the /backoff command work?

 

[Mara]

Yea. If you have kiss running, and you target a Friendly NPC, on the MA/Tank they will start attacking. Once the tank starts attacking, does the /backoff command work?

It stops them attacking but I have to restart kiss to be able to untarget the npc.

I've tried using the clear target command but it will just retarget the npc, leaving my only option to restart the macro. While it restarts under can then clear the target as normal.

This is fine if it's a regular quest giver but rather inconvenient when I target a invulnerable friendly npc by accident when I mean to target a mob I need to kill that's right next to it. For a example of where this is easy to do the Bixie warfront heroic adventures there is one named general sagrintas last stand, many others too but that is one example.


As mentioned the auto macros by noobhaxor do have this even midfight. I've looked at his macros but couldn't find how he did it, but I'm definitely not a expert with mq2 having only started using it February this year learning though slowly :p

 

[ctaylor22]

Are you using the /backoff command on all your characters? Are only the Melee/non casters backing off and clearing their target? From what I can see all Melee characters should be clearing their target and backing off. Are you seeing the "Backing off - All Combat has been reset." Message on all your character, in the MQ2 Window?

 

[Mara]

Are you using the /backoff command on all your characters? Are only the Melee/non casters backing off and clearing their target? From what I can see all Melee characters should be clearing their target and backing off. Are you seeing the "Backing off - All Combat has been reset." Message on all your character, in the MQ2 Window?

I have just one melee character (a bard), I use a mage to pet tank that might be why it's not clearing the target.

Though I tried it again hit backoff and she (the bard) still had the npc targeted perhaps because the mage still did.

I use a bcaa //backoff to do it, and see the all combat has been reset on them all.

Maybe it's time to make a real tank I guess then :p
Or do you think setting my pet as ma would help?

 

[ctaylor22]

I think it has more to do with the casters. The backoff command focuses on all melee and the casters aren't really delt with other than DPSPaused is turned on. Lets give this a try:

First always make a copy of your current macro.

Replace your Bind_Backoff routine with this:

    Sub Bind_BackOff  
        /if (${DPSPaused}) {  
            /if (${DPSPaused}==2 && ${UseMQ2Melee}) /squelch /melee on
            /varset DPSPaused 0  
            /echo Resetting. No Longer Backing off.  
        } else {  
            /varset DPSPaused 1  
            /varset CombatStart 0  
            /if (${UseMQ2Melee}) /squelch /melee off
            /if (${Melee.Combat}) {  
                /squelch /attack off  
                /if (${Stick.Active})  /stick off 
            }  
            /call CombatReset  
            /varset DPSPaused 2 
            /echo Backing off - All Combat has been reset.
        }  
        /if (${ReturnToCamp} && ${Math.Distance[${CampYLoc},${CampXLoc}]} > 15) {  
            /call DoWeMove  
        }  
        /doevents flush BackOff  
    /return

Give it a try. There may be an issue if the pet never clears the target, but you can always try targeting the mage before starting Kiss on your group. Then target a mob on your mage and when everyone assists the mage, just issue the /backoff command like normal and see if everyone clears their target.

 

[Mara]

Will do when I am at my pc next, thanks I'll post here saying if it worked.

Thank you

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I think it has more to do with the casters. The backoff command focuses on all melee and the casters aren't really delt with other than DPSPaused is turned on. Lets give this a try:

First always make a copy of your current macro.

Replace your Bind_Backoff routine with this:

    Sub Bind_BackOff  
        /if (${DPSPaused}) {  
            /if (${DPSPaused}==2 && ${UseMQ2Melee}) /squelch /melee on
            /varset DPSPaused 0  
            /echo Resetting. No Longer Backing off.  
        } else {  
            /varset DPSPaused 1  
            /varset CombatStart 0  
            /if (${UseMQ2Melee}) /squelch /melee off
            /if (${Melee.Combat}) {  
                /squelch /attack off  
                /if (${Stick.Active})  /stick off 
            }  
            /call CombatReset  
            /varset DPSPaused 2 
            /echo Backing off - All Combat has been reset.
        }  
        /if (${ReturnToCamp} && ${Math.Distance[${CampYLoc},${CampXLoc}]} > 15) {  
            /call DoWeMove  
        }  
        /doevents flush BackOff  
    /return

Give it a try. There may be an issue if the pet never clears the target, but you can always try targeting the mage before starting Kiss on your group. Then target a mob on your mage and when everyone assists the mage, just issue the /backoff command like normal and see if everyone clears their target.

Which file do I put this in - I couldnt find Sub Bind_Backoff in the files I checked

 

[mcarpe]

When I was using afk nuke on a caster, I just tied an eqbc bcg or bct <caster> //keypress esc to my /switch or backoff keys. Dunno if they helps or not worked for me when I needed to clear targets or switch etc..

 

[Mara]

ive got /target clear on my backoff hotkey so that wont work sadly

Thanks though

 

[ctaylor22]

Will do when I am at my pc next, thanks I'll post here saying if it worked.

Thank you

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Which file do I put this in - I couldnt find Sub Bind_Backoff in the files I checked

This goes in the kissassist.mac file. don't use notepad to edit it, use wordpad. If you ever plan on doing much editing of macro's, look into downloading Notepad++

 

[Mara]

Alas still does the same thing - refuses to let me clear my target from what I could see it was already the same as what i already had in the kiss mac files though I replaced it anyway.

Checked on my other chars and they all clear the target fine it's just the mage who doesnt - shes set as main tank/assist too. If I have my pet targetted when I start kiss it will let me swap targets fine even if I am set as main assist, even midfight so it seems to be related to being the main assist/tank ( I was always targetting myself when i started kiss before) from what I can see.

If I was to use a real tank class do you think it would still do the same thing I see now?

And yeah ive been using notepad++ for since windows xp days its about 100x better than wordpad/notepad even if you dont code :p

 

[ctaylor22]

Taking a closer look at the code, thinking about your setup. I see an issue where if the MA is a caster, and the mainassist for everyone, he/she will acquire a target in the combatcast routine. Looks like the check for DPSPaused needs to be moved up a bit in the code....

I will make the mods and PM you a changed version of the macro. If you can test this and report back here it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Mara]

I did some more testing and its definitely the mage being set as a tank or assist that causes it.

As I don't usually play with my pet as the tank I also died once or twice while I did so lol (not blaming you just found it amusing)

Though targetting my pet while i start kiss DOES solve the issue a new one happens - my mage will turn and face my pet randomly :p

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And will be happy to do so sorry you replyed while I was posting that post just then

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Sent you a pm but the updated kiss macro will now let me clear the target once combat starts or it worked!

I cannot thank you enough it was driving me insane lol.

 

[ctaylor22]

OK. Good to hear. I will get with THD and see about adding these changes to KA.. Thanks again for all your help...

 

[Mara]

OK. Good to hear. I will get with THD and see about adding these changes to KA.. Thanks again for all your help...

No, thank you.

You really made an extra effort, if I didn't think id run out of thanks I'd have done that for every post you made in this thread.

And just to let you know after using it today it works perfectly the pets will also clear the targets too.