Question - Any way to make my ini dispell when the mob has a buff?

[shiftup]

Hey guys, I'm trying to improve my ini's and one of the biggest problems i'm running into in EoK is mobs with buffs, either DS or riposte. Is there a way to set up a condition that uses a dispell item when it detects a mob with a buff? Or would this be something better handled by mq2melee?

Any suggestions welcome!

 

[ctaylor22]

If you are using KissAssist, then Debuffall in the DPS section is your friend. The DebuffAll routine dispels Beneficial buffs off mobs.look in the KissAssist documentation and find the information on DebuffAll and use the strip tag.

 

[shiftup]

If you are using KissAssist, then Debuffall in the DPS section is your friend. The DebuffAll routine dispels Beneficial buffs off mobs.look in the KissAssist documentation and find the information on DebuffAll and use the strip tag.

This is awesome! thank you! Exactly what i was looking for. I'm a little unclear on the syntax and under strip all it says is

Strip tag - is used for dispelling beneficial buffs from mobs. Need Clarification.

Would this be the correct syntax?

DPS1=Hardened Energeiac Leather Tunic|100|debuffall|strip

editing:
So i tried this and it works but now my monk stops attacking and scans through all the mobs in the camp to make sure none have a buff to dispell. I want him to do that on the primary target but not stop attacking every ~5seconds which isn't going to work

 

[aspire2008]

Hey guys, I'm trying to improve my ini's and one of the biggest problems i'm running into in EoK is mobs with buffs, either DS or riposte. Is there a way to set up a condition that uses a dispell item when it detects a mob with a buff? Or would this be something better handled by mq2melee?

Any suggestions welcome!

Use the condition I have for Eradicate Magic in my wizard guide part II. If its a different spell, just change the name appropriately. The zone ID's are generic zones but you can add in the zone ID's for EoK zones that are have mobs that you want to despell in.

 

[ctaylor22]

shiftup, normally you wouldn't have melee characters debuffing mobs, and it is important to turn off attack when switching mobs in camp, especially on melee characters. I only setup my casters to strip buffs off of mobs. The other thing to consider is, are the mobs mezzed? If they are the last thing you want to do is switch to a new target with attack on.

 

[saar]

or could make

DPS1=Hardened Energeiac Leather Tunic|100|debuffall|strip

into this

DPS1=Hardened Energeiac Leather Tunic|100|strip

just make sure

DebuffAllOn=0

if I understand correctly it will only strip the mob the MA is attacking

 

[ctaylor22]

The strip tag is only valid in the debuffall routine. The DPS section will not understand the strip tag, while it might cast the item, it will also attack the mob when you target it.

 

[shiftup]

shiftup, normally you wouldn't have melee characters debuffing mobs, and it is important to turn off attack when switching mobs in camp, especially on melee characters. I only setup my casters to strip buffs off of mobs. The other thing to consider is, are the mobs mezzed? If they are the last thing you want to do is switch to a new target with attack on.

I don't want the toon switching targets, that's what I'm saying. I want the monk to dispell the mob he's fighting anytime that mob has a buff. EoK mobs have short duration buffs they cast that i want to get rid of

The dispell clicky is bene only and he shouldn't be switching targets so mez shouldn't be an issue

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Use the condition I have for Eradicate Magic in my wizard guide part II. If its a different spell, just change the name appropriately. The zone ID's are generic zones but you can add in the zone ID's for EoK zones that are have mobs that you want to despell in.

This is freaking sweet! Can i just remove the zone check part?

 

[aspire2008]

I don't want the toon switching targets, that's what I'm saying. I want the monk to dispell the mob he's fighting anytime that mob has a buff. EoK mobs have short duration buffs they cast that i want to get rid of

The dispell clicky is bene only and he shouldn't be switching targets so mez shouldn't be an issue

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This is freaking sweet! Can i just remove the zone check part?

Yes, but the reason for the zone check is so you don't waste unnecessary time casting it, as well the hp range check on the mob, so you don't recast it. The whole point is to maximize your dps, so any time wasted in casting it in zones you don't need to be or recasting it if you just have the setting without the hp check, then there is a potential to recast it again on the same mob. You could even go further and make it more refined and add a mob type check which I will probably do at some point. Because currently it wastes time casting on other mob types in the zone.

 

[etherealmist]

From my understanding while digging through the kiss code, the strip function only works with debuffall, which inherently will target and try to 'debuff all' mobs in the area that are engaged with the group/raid.

 

[shiftup]

Yes, but the reason for the zone check is so you don't waste unnecessary time casting it, as well the hp range check on the mob, so you don't recast it. The whole point is to maximize your dps, so any time wasted in casting it in zones you don't need to be or recasting it if you just have the setting without the hp check, then there is a potential to recast it again on the same mob. You could even go further and make it more refined and add a mob type check which I will probably do at some point. Because currently it wastes time casting on other mob types in the zone.

I'm really not worried about the DPS implications - as far as i understand this should be clicking ONLY when the mob has a bene buff (pretty rare) and the cast time is 1second, so if that happens 2-3 times over the course of a 30-60 second long fight every 10-15 mobs... that's a dream scenario as far as i'm concerned. I don't much care what % health the mob is and I want this to happen in pretty much any zone (to the point that i'd rather just turn it off manually when i DONT want it rather than specifying all the instances I do)... however...

I tried this and it isn't working for me. It spam casts the dispell click on cooldown regardless of if the mob has a buff. I've turned ConditionsOn=1 and copied this into my ini (without the !'s)

!DPS2=Hardened Energeiac Leather Tunic|100
!DPSCondition2=${Target.ID} && ${Target.Beneficial.ID} && ${Target.Beneficial.ID}!=49665

am I doing something wrong? Did i break it? or does this not work with items vs spells? or...?

 

[Ohgah1987]

this post is old and helped me alot but i have issues..
i am trying to get the same thing to work. i have the items in my ini set to:
dpson=2.

debuffall=0

DPS1=Nullify Magic|95|strip
DPSCondition1=${Target.ID} && ${Target.Beneficial.ID} && ${Target.Beneficial.ID}

i also tried
DPS1=Nullify Magic|95|Debuffall|Strip

and DPS1=Nullify Magic|Strip ( with conditions of course)

but the druid just spams nullify magic until mobs clear of any spells ( dots, buffs, debuffs w/e )

its not only stripping beneficial. i am lost with conditions lol.

thanks in advance.