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I'm new to playing on Test. RG is still showing patch day unavailable message from last week, is this usual for the true up patch?
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What to expect on patch days?
When eq patches MQ has to be rebuilt. (you also have to patch EQ --- this way you avoid "Version Mismatch" issues)
once mq is built RG can build - we now have an automated system that rebuilds RG as soon as it is updated - which means our previous method of "let's give it a quick test" is no longer there, and sometimes there ends up being another smaller patch later to correct if something got missed - so re-check on patch days if you are having issues.
eq could change literally anything and it would require the way MQ interacts with that portion of EQ to be completely reworked. It is normally just offsets, sometimes struct changes --- with the large changes eq has been making over the past few months (updates and backend improvements) there are more things than just offset changes that are happening, so it can certainly be a lot of work for the devs.
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EQ patches go like this: (in theory)
2nd* tue/wed = test "real" patch
3rd* wed = live patch
4th* tue/wed = test "true up
the tue over the wed is a more recent thing (I suspect klanderso has more to do with that, and having time to ensure working stuff before the weekend and upset people - klanderso is pretty awesome)
* holidays subject to cause shifts in days or even week
test is notorious for being like "oops we forgot the 'dont crash plz' file, gotta patch again", or "woops we added +1 to crashing, we meant -1", so "on paper" it is double the patches, but very frequently ends up being more than double the work (i imagine, I'm not doing the work - I'd love to learn enough at some point to help facilitate doing so, however)
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sometimes it takes a couple extra
To strictly answer the question, going by the last (many months), no, it is not "usual".
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Thank you, was just trying to manage my expectations. I appreciate the hard work from the Devs.
sometimes "just a true-up" isn't actually that, and they revert or add changes
sometimes brainiac is tied up with stuff or in the middle of other stuff
as a full time and long time test player i am fully aware of the downtime at times due to getting a build up and running. i am by no means an expert and i am usually the one telling people to put on their patience pants and wait lol. i try and donate monthly for all the fun you all bring to my free time when i am not at work. please don't consider this in anyway me being pushy or demanding. i am just curious if anyone has any updates on test getting a build? were there more changes to this true up that made it not be a real "true" up and if so are you just going to wait until the next test patch to mess with it?
as always thank you all for the time you put into keeping EQ fun for myself and everyone else here in the best boxing community in Norrath!
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(again no ill will intended here =) )
as always thank you all for the time you put into keeping EQ fun for myself and everyone else here in the best boxing community in Norrath!
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Thinking back over the past year or so, it feels like I can remember there being a handful of times where test took almost 2 weeks to come back. Test definitely tests our patience
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Yeah, I'm being patient, but I'm also fiending like a drugless druggy... not gonna lie
I can't speak for brainiac, but i do speak *with* brainiac.
test update will come soon, a lot of brain's extra time has been spent on the anti-detection methods (and conversations), unfortunately brainiac is the one who does *all* of the updates and does the lion's share of recent additions/updates/RE
just know, it isn't forgotten and ya'll are appreciated.
I can assume that "waiting a couple extra days here and there resulting in fewer baspends" is a trade any of us would make
I totally get that Test is not the priority and Brain is a very busy guy. From what I understand, without him, there is no MQ.
However, I think if it's going to be down for what might be considered longer than an "average" amount of time, a message as simple as "do not expect a build in the next X amount of days would be well received.
*edit as I wrote this before I saw Sic's comment.
I appreciate everyone's hard work.
However, I think if it's going to be down for what might be considered longer than an "average" amount of time, a message as simple as "do not expect a build in the next X amount of days would be well received.
*edit as I wrote this before I saw Sic's comment.
I appreciate everyone's hard work.
mq is open source, anyone has the access to submit an update. while i get your point, i don't think brainiac is required to tell redguides or the broader mq community.I totally get that Test is not the priority and Brain is a very busy guy. From what I understand, without him, there is no MQ.
However, I think if it's going to be down for what might be considered longer than an "average" amount of time, a message as simple as "do not expect a build in the next X amount of days would be well received.
*edit as I wrote this before I saw Sic's comment.
I appreciate everyone's hard work.
Some folks (not saying you, but i just want to clarify) get things a little mixedup/twisted with mq/rg/etc
mq is open source, by volunteers
rg is a company that packages and provides "one-stop shop" for MQ itself, as well as a repository for resources (macros, luas, plugins), not to mention the support and guides etc
me, representing RG communicates things as i get them, and I generally try not to be a pita to the primary MQ devs, because they are volunteers who do things on their free time.
Today i msg'd brain and asked if there was an eta that i could communicate, and he said "... soon" and mentioned he's been deep in anti-detection stuff.
I've been doing stuff for RG for a few years at this point, and usually when brainiac knows there will be a delay, or comes to a hiccup that is going to make a delay, he'll let someone know - but it isn't always going to be something known ahead of time.
I make it a priority to communicate things as things are known, and i appreciate the patience about it
I hit the button and will get with red why it didn't autobuild
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So it's not just me then. I felt like it wasn't time yet.
The last three pages of this thread should make everythign abundantly clear.
https://www.redguides.com/community/threads/very-vanilla-mq-test-server.78895/post-632337 may be relevant (not really aimed directly at your comment).
amid all the greatness there is to playing on test the one thing all test players should accept before making it your pixel home is that the downtime will be much higher than any other. patience is a must and understanding the amount of work the rg devs put into making it fun for us all is also needed. also be sure to tip the devs on ocassion. consider it like buying someone a pint or a slice now and then!
believe it or not, that isn't helpful for anyone.
instead of trying to fix it, i'm spending additional time making this reply
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yes, if they're re-patching and update the .exe, it will be down until it is updated for the new patch.
are they taking test down again today?
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha.
Guess jokes on me for spending time checking about what you said
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Consistently getting crashing trying to load up on the most recent test build:
All classes of SK, BRD, SHM, ZERK, ROG, BST
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EverQuest Crash Detected
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MacroQuest caught a crash:
Process ID: 7124
Version: 3.1.1.2982
Location: widMessage+0 (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\wdmaud.drv+00000000000154D0)
CrashID: 8e930522-b9af-4aa4-a2db-ba424aba7cba
You can either:
* [RETRY] Continue execution and hope for the best.
* [CANCEL] Write a crash dump and terminate EverQuest.
Copy the contents of this dialog to your clipboard by pressing Ctrl+C
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Retry Cancel
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On all characters except
Using AutoLogin. Everything should be up to date.
All classes of SK, BRD, SHM, ZERK, ROG, BST
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EverQuest Crash Detected
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MacroQuest caught a crash:
Process ID: 7124
Version: 3.1.1.2982
Location: widMessage+0 (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\wdmaud.drv+00000000000154D0)
CrashID: 8e930522-b9af-4aa4-a2db-ba424aba7cba
You can either:
* [RETRY] Continue execution and hope for the best.
* [CANCEL] Write a crash dump and terminate EverQuest.
Copy the contents of this dialog to your clipboard by pressing Ctrl+C
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Retry Cancel
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On all characters except
Using AutoLogin. Everything should be up to date.
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that looks like windows audio driver update. not a expert, but make sure you dont have friendly overlay audio software forced on you.
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I closed WaveLink and have this crash error instead:
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EverQuest Crash Detected
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MacroQuest caught a crash:
Process ID: 19976
Version: 3.1.1.2982
Location: Ordinal6+0 (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\AUDIOSES.DLL+0000000000004C60)
CrashID: 254922e0-c27e-4c75-a370-20aac39eae38
You can either:
* [RETRY] Continue execution and hope for the best.
* [CANCEL] Write a crash dump and terminate EverQuest.
Copy the contents of this dialog to your clipboard by pressing Ctrl+C
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Retry Cancel
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I uninstalled the realtek audio stuff on my computer and it logged right in. Don't know what updated with it since it worked just fine pre-patch and pre-mq test update. *shrug* probably some auto-update nonsense
**EDIT**
it only worked on time for one character. still getting the same mq crashes.
**EDIT 2**
uninstalled wavelink 2.0 (elgato software) and it seems to be working for now
also unplugged the wave xlr
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EverQuest Crash Detected
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MacroQuest caught a crash:
Process ID: 11428
Version: 3.1.1.2982
Location: widMessage+0 (C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\wdmaud.drv+00000000000154D0)
CrashID: 480c7b51-060b-433b-a885-41c2d994a762
You can either:
* [RETRY] Continue execution and hope for the best.
* [CANCEL] Write a crash dump and terminate EverQuest.
Copy the contents of this dialog to your clipboard by pressing Ctrl+C
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Retry Cancel
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Reinstalled a previous version of wavelink to see if I would still get crashes. I'm still getting crashes. (I've re-uninstalled wavelink and will self manage my mic and stuff) Was there any update to the test build in how it uses/makes sounds? I have no crashes when MQ is not loaded.
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Kept messing around with it. Ended up reinstalling windows. Some google searches lead me to believe that it was a windows error. Some weird drivers issue.
test came down for a patch tonight with some fixes to the architect raid and some changes to mortal coil among other things. figured id update here so the ice cream cone can be turned over before people start asking what happened to test =P
putting my patience pants on
cheers everyone
putting my patience pants on
cheers everyone
Yeah that was a bummer, i was hoping to get my new guys to 90 last night. that's ok though, this will give me time to get caught up on house work lol