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outsidethebox

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What happened to them? Redguides used to have 3 or 4 versions of MQ2 compiles that would be done within hours of MQ2 source being released.. I paid for this site simply for the compiles.
 
If it was free I could understand.. but being as we have to pay to access these kind of "services"...
 
I'm not the one recoding.. but sometimes the job can be quite difficult... None of my forums have a compile posted yet. I'm guessing this one was a pain.

Sorry you have to wait, but I'm sure they're not holding out on you. They want a working version also.
 
You pay for access to the forums. The content of the forums is the collective contributions of the community that subscribes to the forums. The community of the forums is a collection of people who wish to share content with other members. When you make one of these posts you just annoyed 100 contributers, Grats on ruining a peer to peer service Asshole.
 
slowpoke said:
You pay for access to the forums. The content of the forums is the collective contributions of the community that subscribes to the forums. The community of the forums is a collection of people who wish to share content with other members. When you make one of these posts you just annoyed 100 contributers, Grats on ruining a peer to peer service Asshole.
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Or he just annoyed you. Better go get some fresh air
 
outsidethebox said:
What happened to them? Redguides used to have 3 or 4 versions of MQ2 compiles that would be done within hours of MQ2 source being released.. I paid for this site simply for the compiles.
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i agree with what he is sayin we do pay for it....for which it should be released as soon as source is compiled but in the fact that it should be out in hours i disagree....i wait patiently and dont complain because i am greatful for what i get and how fast i get it.....it may take a little bit a day or 2 but we do not pay that much for what we get and how fast it takes to get it...i am greatful for the people who work on the source files to compile and add all the wonderful programs that people like to use in that compile and work out all the bugs.... i rather have them take there time and give me a quality product than just rush it out and give me pos that i paid for.....remember cheap things aint good and good things aint cheap....and the compilers are human they have lives other than helping us for free or near free for there compiles since we are on a p2p kind of forum....sorry if i offend any with this but that is how i feel.
 
slowpoke said:
You pay for access to the forums. The content of the forums is the collective contributions of the community that subscribes to the forums. The community of the forums is a collection of people who wish to share content with other members. When you make one of these posts you just annoyed 100 contributers, Grats on ruining a peer to peer service Asshole.
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Hmm, why am I paying for peer to peer service? I'm just saying.. it USED to be that way. Sorry to burst your bubble.. well.. not really.
 
Yes, it used to be that way because original Redguides was the first major MQ2 site with the most members. We used to have something like 40-50,000 active members, the only other site being Forever-Hacking where it was a different system where you kind of had to earn your way up. So because we had SOOO many active people, many of them coders, a lot of people would post their own compiles. Seeing as how NA is now one of the most inactive MQ2 sites, it's not like that anymore.
 
Well, for those that bitch and don't read, I posted in the compile thread that I'd have a compile up tomorrow when I get home. I have all of the offsets ready to go, I just needed a new MQ source, which wasn't up by the time my wife and I had to leave. So please go wipe your pussy and be patient. I do this for free and I actually have a life outside of contributing to NA.

And just an FYI, I took time out of my day off work to sit at my computer this morning and get all of the offsets updated and ready to go for when the new source was up and I would be at my computer to compile. Not trying to offend anyone, but it does offend me a bit when I get hate mail for not having a compile up immediately when it's a volunteer service I offer to the community here on my free time.
 
Welcome to the wonderful world of releasing compiles that people depend on ;) If you're ever too busy, just send me a PM and I can send you the updated offsets.. I actually had a compile up before MQ2 today. This is my job so I can devote all of my time to it, no biggie to share the offsets on patch days.
 
Or you could play and enjoy the game for one day while waiting. Don't have to macro 80 toons everytime.
 
Oh yeah. Offsets are no problem now. I just prefer to wait for the MQ2 source. I know how to update main as weel, but I feel more comfortable personally using th official files. Call it paranoia that I'll screw something up I guess.
 
I dont give a shit what others say JMO your the man :) If people are that damn much in a hurry than do it them selves. period end of story....
 
stdage said:
I dont give a shit what others say JMO your the man :) If people are that damn much in a hurry than do it them selves. period end of story....
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LOL or worse... learn to live without MQ running for a whole day !
 
outsidethebox said:
What happened to them? Redguides used to have 3 or 4 versions of MQ2 compiles that would be done within hours of MQ2 source being released.. I paid for this site simply for the compiles.
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Once upon a time long long ago there was a debate and it was good.

Precompiles good or bad for the MQ2 community.

Forum warriors waged war one direction and forums warriors waged war the other, you see Redguides was not about offering compiles but to be a community where others can share, you nor anyone else paid Redguides for compiles that was simply something users did for the community. And those that did it for the community were rewarded with free time and redcents when they came around.

Then the time of great hand biting occured, this was a sad time for all and some people stopped, then we were left with but a couple precompilers and their names were Tonka Trucks (Turkren...oh I can't say his name it's copyrighted, that's right) and he got a big head and eventually went completely ape shit restricting plugins because they aren't safe (If safe is a binary function, nothing is safe, stop breathing you I SEE YOU BREATHING! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH) then was trolled out into the cornfield and vanished.

Then certain forum warriors (Mods, Admins, and a couple really well trusted users (Thez and Odessa if I remember right, though Thez was the main effort of the project) created what was called Redquest to a compile to make sure that all users had access to a precompile.

Times were good, Hacking was fruitful, and everyone rejoiced!

Then monkbug became the new debate overshadowing weather precompiles were killing MQ2 community, for we all knew that something so dangerious spreading like wildfire would draw the ire of Sony, and one day known as Black April, it did. Sony implemented changes to their packet handling giving the message "You can mess with anything else but we draw the lines at packets". And so lo for a time, there was no warp or zone either as using such would set off the flags and increments of packet counters.

This was yet another sad time for Redguides, and would last for quite a while.

Then came Redguides 2.0 and a resurged effort towards warp, Siddin, Yammers and Jmo banged their heads tirelessly looking for ways around or ways to manipulate the packet problem to make it work, we could simply copy other peoples work but what is the challenge in that, having had the source code for different sites fixes we looked upon it and said "This works, but it can be done better" and so they went to work crafting MQ2addicts (While curiously leaving the source code for the other solution in as well? MQ2notaddicts.dll was left in but never used for anything for one release before Jmo realized his mistake)

Warping was back, Zoning was on the way and more work to be done! Around this time ZippZipp had helped put the finishing touches on MQ2addicts and gave the brunt of the information on how to fix Zone as well.

People came and went, hands that fed were bittin, but overall, everyone lived happily ever after.

And that's the story of why there are no multiple precompiles.


The end.
 
I was going to go through this entire thread and remove the really sad flames but really I'd just wind up deleting the thread, leaving it up for you people to read because DAMN this thread is horrible.

While Unknown405 has a point, the whole funny thing about Monkbug showed the greater contributors / coders that they can make money off of creating their own sites it fractured the community in ways precompiles couldn't. (And believe me a lot of people felt VERY strongly that precompiles would destroy MQ2)

Now you have over 50 websites most with only low double digit members offering precompiles NotAddicted is far from "Most inactive" but it's taken a hit from this fracturing of the community.

Monkbug and the like has also become a bane of the community, it shows what the worst of a contribution style community can become and quite frankly I want nothing to do with it. I'm still upset that warp and the like have to be closed source even though fixing it is close to becoming common knowledge again amongst those that do run their own website and/or do their own compiles it's almost like it's a trade-secret and that's sad for the style of community I and others want Redguides / Notaddicted to be.

Essentially: Redguides/Notaddicted is as good as you the community make it, you can live in fear of sharing what you know because it might become nerfed that much more quickly or you can share it and encourage that kind of sharing.

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I remember Turk he was great. Now people like Decker,Teacher's Pet and Jmo run the show it seems. I have been gone for like 6 months have a bad memory. I know i'm leaving people out. I'd like to thank all of you for your work.
 
Turk was good at first, then over time he pretty much went to crap, started pissing off (and on) the other contributors and generally getting a really bad ego.

Teacher's Pet has pretty much been inactive for the last year (since March pretty much).
 
I have informed Jmo and Ill tell you all as well, I have a lot of time on my hands, and I am interested in learning how to compile and such and I am wanting to contribute as well. I downloaded and installed Visual Studios and im going to start working with it.
 
I also appreciate the efforts and am in awe of those who contribute so much to this site. I would MUCH rather be patient and wait for a quality compile and offsets than get something quick that's gonna crash you or possibly get you banned.
I salute you guys!
 
kegyen said:
I have informed Jmo and Ill tell you all as well, I have a lot of time on my hands, and I am interested in learning how to compile and such and I am wanting to contribute as well. I downloaded and installed Visual Studios and im going to start working with it.
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Anyone can download VS and compile source code. It's knowing how to find the offsets for the plugins that is the hard part.
 
I am getting frustrated too waiting, a friend of mine has his mq up and running already he says the site he uses has the stuff hours after the patch... however, I like Jmo and the rest of you that contribute, and I can trust your material, so yes I agree the best words here are patience for quality. And I also thank you very much and also salute you for your personal time you take to give this to the community.
 
The way I see it ccomp, is NA and FH are my two favorite historical websites for EQ cheating. The reason I'm not saying MQ2 is because I remember WAYYYY back in the day when MQ2 was but a dream. Back in the days when what everyone here knows as a speed hack (/speed) was once nothing more than a trainer that changed the speed byte in the exe.

Ohhh man people would go crazy when new trainers were released with newer and cooler offsets. You guys have no idea how popular Aqualung v1.0 was, and all it did was use the EB, infravision, and see underwater offsets. But I'm getting more into a history lesson now, here's what I'm trying to say...

The reason that NA was so popular and is still one of my favorite old websites (RedGuides) is because it was all open source. People would create a new work of art, and post it for the world to see. This was so damn great because not only did it provide us with a lot of information to use for our own work, but it provided the entire community a chance to IMPROVE EVERYTHING, making all of the code top notch.

My philosophy is EVERYTHING should be open source, unless it is going to ruin the game. I think all active hacks should be open source, except such plagues as ghostkill and ND. There's my 2 cents..
 
I agree completely

The only problem I ever really had with multiple compiles is macro writers had to support it.

MQ2Megawarp used xyz loc for warps
Rwarp used yxz for warps

My old old old Monster Mission macros I used Rwarp and would publish it and then have half of my users complaining because they had warp that used xyz.

http://forums.notaddicted.com/showthread.php?t=7166
 
*tear* All of us old fogeys are gone...back to reading every so often...

The reason that the multiple compiles died, in all honesty, is because I started getting them up too fast, and too reliably. Before I started compiling at all, there were about 4-5 up...but because I was getting out of class so early on patch days, I was getting compiles up faster than anyone else. Because this was before official Redguides compiles, the result is that I was winning a *lot* of the polls for prizes, and thus the other compilers/posters that were active got frustrated and faded away or stopped posting.

When I "retired" from posting the compiles, Turkreno took over for me (since no one else was reliably posting compiles at that point). Turk was a good guy, but he let the power get to his head, or something. The end result was that he was bad for the business of everyone involved, and so I came back and compiled as Redquest until I quit EQ last year, at which point someone else took over.
 
Thanks, I was retired from EQ when that happened so I was shadey on my history of how we went from multiples to fewer and fewer. From what I remembered it was a bunch of hand biting. Nice to know there was more to it or I'm wrong though.

Great seeing you again Thez
 
Going back I remember more and more about the Pre-compiles are bad! debate.

If you aren't VIP you shouldn't get VIP stuff was one of the ideas floating about (Cosmic quit posting precompiles because of that) then there was the tin foil hat users (Letmein used to really annoy me, though when I first started on Redguides I thought Precompiles were bad too, I was just here to learn how to use warp and zone).

I could spend a day or two just going through the entire communities history, and I don't think I'd get bored of it.
 
Now you're all making me nostalgic. I used to be Rayray1488 from back in uh..2005? I remember when the major players were Tone, Siddin, Soultaker, Mikiky, Armysoldier, TeachersPet, Cronic (had the best plugins at the time), Decker and of course Red was a constant poster at the time.

Stupid free trials brought me back to the game, so I was sure glad to find this site still up and running with great and new people .
 
As a side note, I've had quite a few people asking me how to do precompiles, so I'm working on an updated guide. I'll try to get it posted soon.
 
rayray33444 said:
Now you're all making me nostalgic. I used to be Rayray1488 from back in uh..2005? I remember when the major players were Tone, Siddin, Soultaker, Mikiky, Armysoldier, TeachersPet, Cronic (had the best plugins at the time), Decker and of course Red was a constant poster at the time.

Stupid free trials brought me back to the game, so I was sure glad to find this site still up and running with great and new people .
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No one ever remembers good ole' SS :# lmao

Good to see that there are more people bitching about the precompiles being up fast enough than before. I really want to know how many people actually used MQ2 BEFORE precompiles? Back when you had to compile it yourself using C++ and the .net framework.

Just remember, if you are a member here, you should really try and contribute as much as you can. If you take, you should at least TRY to give. Hell, I paid for 1 year originally, and soon after I was at 4 years due to contributing (hell, i am still here for free until next year) and Red being the nice guy he is. Hell, I even got enough votes 1 month to get a 90 day game card.
 
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