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Question - Trivial raid mobs after lvl 85+

lazershoes

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Hey RedGuides, I'm wondering what the rules are if you have a high level party and you backtrack to old world/kunark etc content, to raid places like Plane of Fear, Sebilis etc. I seem to remember years ago there was a rule in the game that if you were massively outclassing something like Nagafen, you could indeed kill it but would receive no loot. So that less powerful guilds would have a chance at doing these encounters and gearing up. Is that still the case?

Reason I ask is I want to do the SK 1.0 epic, and I see killing Cazic-Thule is on the list. Not sure if that would even work at my level (98).
 
Hey RedGuides, I'm wondering what the rules are if you have a high level party and you backtrack to old world/kunark etc content, to raid places like Plane of Fear, Sebilis etc. I seem to remember years ago there was a rule in the game that if you were massively outclassing something like Nagafen, you could indeed kill it but would receive no loot. So that less powerful guilds would have a chance at doing these encounters and gearing up. Is that still the case?

Reason I ask is I want to do the SK 1.0 epic, and I see killing Cazic-Thule is on the list. Not sure if that would even work at my level (98).
Yes, it is in effect for Naggy but not for the others. Players easily do their epics solo now days. I just solo'd Shaman epic 1.5 and 2.0 which included some Plane trials so no hold up there either.

Anguish is super easy cause you just invite 5 more players - so invite your alts and then log them off or folks who afk - doesn't matter. The only ones I could not invite were my traders cause as soon as I went into offline mode it would drop them from the group. But others I could log out and no problem. Then you go in and solo it.
 
There is no loot rule based levels. go kill level 1's for all your loot.

Vox and Naggy where both changed last year to not boot you from the AoC version? so if you wanted to do at high level, just spin you up a instance.
 
There is no loot rule based levels. go kill level 1's for all your loot.

Vox and Naggy where both changed last year to not boot you from the AoC version? so if you wanted to do at high level, just spin you up a instance.
Oh yeah I forgot they changed that so you don't even need the AOC back in the March 2022 patch
 
There also appears to be a small timer on being banished from vox that gives a window to kill. I accidently aggroed vox with a 120 ranger running an automation macro. The ranger ran in and killed vox without getting banished. Not sure if this was just extreme luck but ended up with an eye patch souvenir for nostalgia :toot:

Edit: or was it changed to remove banish completely:shrug:
 
Vox and naggy no longer banish in normal zones either, can’t remember when but this year sometime I recall
 
There is no loot rule based levels. go kill level 1's for all your loot.

Vox and Naggy where both changed last year to not boot you from the AoC version? so if you wanted to do at high level, just spin you up a instance.
I believe the catch to AoC, is that you need a minimum of 6 characters (it can be mercs) however, the PCs need to have all access. So you can do it with 6 all access players, or 3 all access with 3 mercs.
 
There is no loot rule based levels. go kill level 1's for all your loot.

Vox and Naggy where both changed last year to not boot you from the AoC version? so if you wanted to do at high level, just spin you up a instance.

There is trivial loot code, but the only thing I know it applies to are the alaris tablets. Basically the tablets only drop from alarans if the lowest level person in your group cons the alaran as light blue. Not that it matters anymore, since it's way faster to grind the tablets with the shards landing macro.
 
Fysa

March 2022 patch notes

NPCs


  • Beastlord pets should more consistently display their name as a warder. Existing pets may need to be re-summoned in order to receive the updated name.
  • Lord Nagafen and Lady Vox will no longer banish attackers that are above level 52.
 
There is no loot rule based levels. go kill level 1's for all your loot.

Vox and Naggy where both changed last year to not boot you from the AoC version? so if you wanted to do at high level, just spin you up a instance.
Thanks. Might have some fun exploring old world zones I never got to see the depths of. What's AoC?
 
yeah, couldnt remember if it was AoC ones, or open world also, thanks.

But even at 120 i go back and do raid mobs for clickies, either normal or aoc path, and never had a issue with them dropping items. I heard that there was a grey rule, but thought was a TLP or EMU thing (never been on live that i can remember).
 
I believe the catch to AoC, is that you need a minimum of 6 characters (it can be mercs) however, the PCs need to have all access. So you can do it with 6 all access players, or 3 all access with 3 mercs.
IIRC, you can do obtain an AOC instance with a minimum of two AA accounts. Just log out and log in alts and keep raid inviting. Pretty sure I did that to finish up PoP progress for AC.
 
IIRC, you can do obtain an AOC instance with a minimum of two AA accounts. Just log out and log in alts and keep raid inviting. Pretty sure I did that to finish up PoP progress for AC.
Correct, offliners count to # total. and since its account based lockouts, might as well fully lock out the account~
 
Reason I ask is I want to do the SK 1.0 epic, and I see killing Cazic-Thule is on the list. Not sure if that would even work at my level (98).
You will find the Soul Leech drops from Fright, Terror and Dread, If those three aren't up, you can talk to Harbinger of Fear(big skeleton guy) and he will spawn Terror if my memory is right. You need to do this on your SK and Soul Leech will drop. Or you can also use AoC to get one of three mobs.
 
You will find the Soul Leech drops from Fright, Terror and Dread, If those three aren't up, you can talk to Harbinger of Fear(big skeleton guy) and he will spawn Terror if my memory is right. You need to do this on your SK and Soul Leech will drop. Or you can also use AoC to get one of three mobs.
I was kinda thinking of just skipping the 1.0 and doing the 1.5 pre-quest stuff. Any compelling reason to do the 1.0?
 
Unless its been changed, I did Seru, VT,Ssra, Fear, ToV with a 115 so you should be good to do whatwever youd want at 98. Everything up until maybe SoF should be trivial aside from mechanic heavy fights.

Edit: within the last 30 days I did these.
 
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