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Guide - The Crusaders - CoV Mission Vid
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Good timing Sic, Ive just spent 2+ hours trying to do this one, and did not burn at all as I thought you had to kill Yelinak at the end. Got to the 3rd dragon a couple of times, but as you found out shit gets real then as they get all the previous dragons abilities.
Now I know you only have to kill 4 I will burn sooner.
Add's are a pain, I found because they fly they flit about everywhere, melee dps struggles to hit them, my zerker ended up on other size of zone for a reason I can not work out.
Now I know you only have to kill 4 I will burn sooner.
Add's are a pain, I found because they fly they flit about everywhere, melee dps struggles to hit them, my zerker ended up on other size of zone for a reason I can not work out.
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The Cube hit some of my guys and it was what ported them away.
@hytiek @SylanosScorn @boosiebaby22590 @morisato @Hylander @victoriansense and others
did a "clean run"
did a "clean run"
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I thought the next vid was going to be about SEQ? lol
! gawd sheesh
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I haven't gotten through the whole new vid yet...please tell me you sang to me again! :Pno, me from the future went back and told past me that you were gonna be hatin on a new video that wasn't myseq - so no song.
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bastard future you!
lol at power source
spells rank 2 (this toon doesn't have tov prog so my composite is better)
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I just don't waste the cast for st slow - I kill too fast to waste the cast time. my tank has slow belt and my bst has slowallnamed turned on
definitely don't waste the bard gem slot for slow
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I had a similar shaman spell line up but have made some changes and it seems to be doing fine w named in this expansion
1 Reckless Renewal vs 3
I use spear over bite(think spear is faster, ive mentioned b4 its for the the heal procs u get <I use a 2hb for this reason>)
I got rid of intervention spell, if I need that type of healing , I use AA (rarely do)
that frees up a few spell gems
so I ended up adding 2nd combo dot and 2 magic dots
my settings wont use dots on trash that are below 50%, I need to add unless its a named then go to 5%
group set up is same, all are in tov grp gear still
I use recourse at the start of the fight for the continual HoT it procs in the song window and keep casting when ever its up if I get a chance
1 Reckless Renewal vs 3
I use spear over bite(think spear is faster, ive mentioned b4 its for the the heal procs u get <I use a 2hb for this reason>)
I got rid of intervention spell, if I need that type of healing , I use AA (rarely do)
that frees up a few spell gems
so I ended up adding 2nd combo dot and 2 magic dots
my settings wont use dots on trash that are below 50%, I need to add unless its a named then go to 5%
group set up is same, all are in tov grp gear still
I use recourse at the start of the fight for the continual HoT it procs in the song window and keep casting when ever its up if I get a chance
you can use both intervention spell and the AA
spear is a longer cast time - I use bite since I'm just trying to squeeze in an extra cast and getting in a little bit of damage
I don't want to be tied down casting a longer spell if i don't have to be.
If i ran in hybrid or dps stance it would load other stuff, but im not failing anything due to lack of shaman damage atm, so I'm leaving it in heal mode for extra heals - especially until some of the mechanics on some of the confirmed broken stuff is fixed.
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i rarely use either intervention (keep an eye how often u use it at all)
spear is faster recast time (i end up getting a more spears in per fight than bites), I had to put a condition to not spear if squall or recourse are up, cause its very aggressive (Narandi's Spear of Venom)
I had noticed that the 3rd reckless hardly ever got cast so ditched it 1st, then I set the settings to like 70, to let other heal spells do their job
roar, frost, hot, squall, grp heal, spear , any dots b4 i can squall again, or do anything else (clickies)
in fast kills i never get to dots, and definatly dont need 2nd 3rd renewal or intervention (spell or AA)
in slower kills, heals seem just right so added the dots, to be honest up until this expansion I never dotted till the combo dot came out (and then only had that one combo dot up)
its not the case that i was looking for dps, rather i noticed I didnt need those heals, so instead of wasting gem slots I decided to add some dps
anyways that's the reasoning behind my set up
spear is faster recast time (i end up getting a more spears in per fight than bites), I had to put a condition to not spear if squall or recourse are up, cause its very aggressive (Narandi's Spear of Venom)
I had noticed that the 3rd reckless hardly ever got cast so ditched it 1st, then I set the settings to like 70, to let other heal spells do their job
roar, frost, hot, squall, grp heal, spear , any dots b4 i can squall again, or do anything else (clickies)
in fast kills i never get to dots, and definatly dont need 2nd 3rd renewal or intervention (spell or AA)
in slower kills, heals seem just right so added the dots, to be honest up until this expansion I never dotted till the combo dot came out (and then only had that one combo dot up)
its not the case that i was looking for dps, rather i noticed I didnt need those heals, so instead of wasting gem slots I decided to add some dps
anyways that's the reasoning behind my set up
I don't know how you rolled through this so easily. Im using the same plugins, have almost all t3 cov slots filled, and im getting destroyed. My SHM absolutely SUCKS at healing through this. My SK barely gets hurt but the shm lets everyone die. I tried SK, BER, BER, BRD, CLR, SHM - not enough DPS. adds get me. SK, BER, BER, BER, BRD, SHM - SHM lets peeps die and cant even heal themselves. I am about to break shit. SK max AA, BRD max AA, 2 of 3 BER max AA,... WTF?
is it possible you are standing in front of the dragons and eating cone? I go over this in the second video. -- if you don't have usemelee on, you don't want to chase because you will stick by your tank - you will want to either park him somewhere (mode 1, 0, 3, w/e) or turn on usemelee
also the aoes are overturned and a dev said they would get adjusted
yeah sometimes the dmg is stupid and i'll just restart.
imo this is definitely the hardest of the 4 missions just to to the crazy aoe damage and rampage.
hopefully the aoe adjustment is sooner rather than later
hard to say - I don't like running 2 healers because its a whole dps slot of damage missing.
bard brings a ton of adps for the zerks - for me, the balance is tank, heal, cc, 3 dps
i do run a shm and a bst - bst is a dps (and i don't usemending on the bst as that is a wasted gem slot for me)
sk, shm, bard, zerk, zerk bst
Re: skipping the missions - also hard to say - really depends on what updates/fixes/changes they make. if I were in your shoes i'd consider trimming down to 1 healer - you're missing out on a ton of dps
So many things causing AE damage on this one, some is avoidable though.
On top of the wild rampage, each dragon has a frontal cone ability, but when you kill the first one the next one gains the last dragons cone ability, but as a PBAE on the tank (3rd dragon then has 2 PBAE's on top of his own frontal cone etc) .... so max melee range at the back gets you out of most of it (but you need to be extra vigilant on the cleaning cubes when doing that).
Then theres a zone wide AE that can be disabled, but only worth doing if you want the achievement, as you lose dps and makes it harder than just healing through it
If you want to disable it, there are emotes calling out corners of the area, first emote is one corner, send a toon to stand there inside that decal and wait for a success message, AE disabled for that round.
The next round you get emotes for 2 corners, send a toon to each do the same, etc etc
Personally, I kill the first two normally, can do that without any adds spawning usually, then burn the 3rd one and avoid the add there.... ultimately burns run out for the 4th so definitely get an add on him, kill dragon first to stop any more spawning, then finish off the add.
On top of the wild rampage, each dragon has a frontal cone ability, but when you kill the first one the next one gains the last dragons cone ability, but as a PBAE on the tank (3rd dragon then has 2 PBAE's on top of his own frontal cone etc) .... so max melee range at the back gets you out of most of it (but you need to be extra vigilant on the cleaning cubes when doing that).
Then theres a zone wide AE that can be disabled, but only worth doing if you want the achievement, as you lose dps and makes it harder than just healing through it
If you want to disable it, there are emotes calling out corners of the area, first emote is one corner, send a toon to stand there inside that decal and wait for a success message, AE disabled for that round.
The next round you get emotes for 2 corners, send a toon to each do the same, etc etc
Personally, I kill the first two normally, can do that without any adds spawning usually, then burn the 3rd one and avoid the add there.... ultimately burns run out for the 4th so definitely get an add on him, kill dragon first to stop any more spawning, then finish off the add.
I am not even making it past the first dragon without burns most tries. With 2 healers I make it to the second without burns but get the add at less than 15% health and end up not killing the add in time before reset. Can't drag the stupid thing because of summon. Shaman just isn't cutting it for healing. My tank is always standing alone fighting wth everyone dead at some point. Not a winnable result.
that makes sense! and wow that's poopy hah. but yeah dev said the AoEs are overtuned and will get some eyeballs on them
Try this order - Jorteva - Charayan - Susarrak - Grendish
Jorteva has a big dot and a big DD so makes sense to get her out the way first, since there's no powerup at that point.... and Grendish absolutely has to be last, since he does a 90% snare, it's almost impossible to run to another dragon in time if you do him at any other point, unless you get lucky inbetween casts.
Done with 5 last night, dps nothing to scream home about, peculiar group too (two warriors...)
INI:
/GU Jortreva the Crusader in 206s, 144.9m @703304sdps | Necromancer + pets [email protected] sdps (302.3k dps in 174s) | Shaman + pets [email protected] sdps (130.5k dps in 203s) | Bard [email protected] sdps (193.8k dps in 131s) | Warrior [email protected] sdps (109.8k dps in 206s) | Warrior 17773k@86274sdps (120.1k dps in 148s)
INI:
/GU Charayan the Crusader in 130s, 145.8m @1121854sdps | Necromancer + pets [email protected] sdps (338.6k dps in 111s) | Warrior [email protected] sdps (267.6k dps in 126s) | Warrior [email protected] sdps (232.8k dps in 130s) | Bard [email protected] sdps (233.5k dps in 122s) | Shaman + pets [email protected] sdps (129.4k dps in 122s)
INI:
/GU Susarrak the Crusader in 112s, 138.4m @1235954sdps | Warrior [email protected] sdps (366.0k dps in 112s) | Necromancer + pets [email protected] sdps (340.2k dps in 100s) | Warrior [email protected] sdps (244.9k dps in 107s) | Bard [email protected] sdps (200.2k dps in 109s) | Shaman + pets [email protected] sdps (142.6k dps in 108s)
INI:
/GU Grendish the Crusader in 130s, 145.3m @1118041sdps | Necromancer + pets [email protected] sdps (406.6k dps in 110s) | Warrior [email protected] sdps (267.5k dps in 122s) | Bard + pets [email protected] sdps (250.3k dps in 124s) | Warrior [email protected] sdps (230.3k dps in 128s) | Shaman + pets 7484k@57572sdps (81352dps in 92s)I am really just curious how Sic's dps is. Not so much about the mission needing dps or not.