Problem - [Temporarily resolved, would love an update to KissAssist] 12.001.009 INVIS/IVU on PullerTank prevents macro from looking/pulling close mobs

[One Cool Trick]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

Dec 5 2020 version 12.001.009

When did your problem start?

12.001.009 update

Character Role?

1. PullerTank

What class is having this issue?

1. Paladin

How often does this issue occur?

Always

Can you reproduce the issue?

As of the latest 12.001.009 update, you are no longer able to invis/IVU your pullertank in between pulls; the tank literally sits there and waits til you cast a spell to "break the invis" and allow the macro to continue. In the previous update, I was able to do it. My fix, I used /blockspell add me INVIS / IVU spells on my pullertank, which allowed the rest of my party to still be invis/ivu and not draw aggro while I was away pulling.

Hello Everyone!

First, Thanks to all that helped me out, it didn't necessarily fix my issue; however, it help me truly refine my INI!

Second, after implementing all the suggestions and trying out 2+ days worth of modifications in addition, I finally figured out the problem [see below]:

As of the latest 12.001.009 update, you are no longer able to invis/IVU your pullertank before pulling; the tank literally sits there and waits til you cast a spell to "break the invis" and allow the macro to continue pulling. In the previous update, I was able to do it with no issues.

My temporary solution... I used /blockspell add me INVIS / IVU spells on my pullertank, which allowed the rest of my party to still be invis/ivu and not draw aggro while I was away pulling.

That said, I am hoping there will be some sort of "fix" or "adjustment" in the future to allow me to invis my tank as well later on between pulls.

 

[an_image]

Hello Everyone!

First, Thanks in advance if we can get this resolved!

Second, I have tried everything to fix the issue myself, but nothing is working, so here I am hoping to resolve it.

I am curious if you know if anyone is experiencing a broken MQ2 after the latest update? 12.001.009

Everything is loaded... and everyone is "assisting" my tank, who is not pulling... though it says "I am Puller & Tank"... I have been using this since the first time I reached out on the forums and had no problems until the latest patch. Where do I begin? Anyone else experiencing the issue?

Thanks in advance!

I did for a bit yesterday. I unloaded and reloaded and it worked. I would have been upset but i was listening to the diablo 2 soundtrack someone posted here remembering all my adventures as a necro...lol

 

[an_image]

BTW... what command did you use to unload reload to "get it working"... I'll give the "specific command" a try but don't want to mess it up any further LOL...

Not sure if this is the "best way" but i just went. Taskbar > MQ2 Icon > Right Click > Nuclear Option...then same path reload mq2

 

[an_image]

I am seeing a weird issue that wasn't happening before with summoning items on mages w/ Mysterious Belt of Daggers...it seems to be stuck in a loop reloading daggers (not executing the check from before)...I changed my buffline to null to prevent it from happening.

On the positive side...now they have a few packpacks worth of daggers to burn through...lol.

 

[Robban]

Hello Everyone!

First, Thanks in advance if we can get this resolved!

Second, I have tried everything to fix the issue myself: uninstalled/redownloaded mq2/launcher entirely... updated the INI , loot , info files as well, but nothing is working, so here I am hoping to resolve it.

I am curious if you know if anyone is experiencing a broken MQ2 after the latest update? 12.001.009

Everything is loaded... and everyone is "assisting" my tank, who is not pulling... though it says "I am Puller & Tank"... I have been using this since the first time I reached out on the forums and had no problems until the latest patch. Where do I begin? Anyone else experiencing the issue?

Thanks in advance!

Since you need something to actually do the pulling part, like a macro or a plugin, and you dont mention any of that. This will be impossible to solve.....

 

[Sic]

@Robban ,

So I have the "Vanilla" MQ2 which came out of the box... I have literally used nothing but that since day 1 and it's always pulled until this last update... so I'm not sure if/which plugin addon (outside of setting up my ini file) that I need to share with you to investigate further... (I also have never used any additional plugins outside of the Vanilla package nor created/modified anything special (i.e. I've never created any conditionals in the ini either)...

Thanks in advance for any further help/suggestions...

Robban is asking what automation you are using to pull with.

kissassist, rgmercs, etc?

I think based on your messages you're using kissassist - but that is what robban was trying to establish

 

[Robban]

@Robban ,

So I have the "Vanilla" MQ2 which came out of the box... I have literally used nothing but that since day 1 and it's always pulled until this last update... so I'm not sure if/which plugin addon (outside of setting up my ini file) that I need to share with you to investigate further... (I also have never used any additional plugins outside of the Vanilla package nor created/modified anything special (i.e. I've never created any conditionals in the ini either)...

Thanks in advance for any further help/suggestions...

I guess you start something to get it to "pull" and "assist"?

 

[One Cool Trick]

@Sic @Robban ,

Yes, I use KissAssist to pull and assist

 

[Robban]

@Sic @Robban ,

Yes, I use KissAssist to pull and assist

did notice someone else having trouble with nav, check that mq2nav is loaded and that you have the meshes for the zone you are in. No error messages at all?

 

[Robban]

/plugin mq2nav

 

[Robban]

show us the Pull section of the Tanks ini

 

[Sic]

[Pull]
PullWith=Protest for Honor
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=170
MaxZRange=25
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=100
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0

your maxradius is 170 which is pretty small.
your maxzrange is 25 which is rediculously small --- this is your vertical distance

are you sure those are what you want?

 

[Robban]

I started with a blank ini and did a /mac kissassist pullertank



Is this how yours look like when you start?

 

[Robban]

can you screenshot your mq2win like I did?

you could try to renamed your ini...or copy it to another location.
then start it up with /mac kissassist pullertank

just to see what happens

 

[Robban]

kinda weird, if if I start it with /mac kissassist pullertank

the ini it makes looks like

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
Role=Assist

 

[Szazor]

Im inclined to agree with SIC and some of your numbers are too small/strange. The easiest thing to test would be to change a few of those Range things and these:

CampRadius	30	Any #	Determines how far your characters interact based on your initial camp spot. This value should be less than MeleeDistance. See MeleeDistance in the Melee section for more information.
CampRadiusExceed	400	Any #	Disables the ReturnToCamp setting upon moving large distances from your camp. (Summoned, warp, teleport etc)

Your camp radius is 100 and radius Exceed is 70. Seems strange to me.

I always thought the Radius Exceed was from the point of your camp. So Radius Exceed should be Bigger than the Radius....I could be wrong.

I suspect your Puller is just confused.

 

[One Cool Trick]

UPDATED initial post, tried all current suggestion replies, STILL having the same updated issue which I can reproduce.

 

[Sic]

UPDATED initial post, tried all current suggestion replies, STILL having the same updated issue which I can reproduce.

yeah people gonna have problems trying to help you if you just go and delete like 13 posts.

 

[wymranar]

@lhcrumb3 where, generally, are you trying to pull?

 

[Robban]

did you try with a blank ini and /mac kissassist pullertank

 

[wymranar]

@lhcrumb3 do you have your pulling spell memmed?

 

[One Cool Trick]

yeah people gonna have problems trying to help you if you just go and delete like 13 posts.

I didn't (nor could I) delete any of your guys suggestions that I attempted already... but would've left them there for people to see what was suggestion already

 

[Robban]

maybe you need rk. ii in that pulling section on your spell?

 

[One Cool Trick]

@lhcrumb3 where, generally, are you trying to pull?

ToV Great Divide Dwarf Caves

 

[One Cool Trick]

@lhcrumb3 do you have your pulling spell memmed?

Yes.

 

[Sic]

I didn't (nor could I) delete any of your guys suggestions that I attempted already... but would've left them there for people to see what was suggestion already

I know you can't delete their posts. you deleted 13 of your posts to which people took time out of their day to respond to.

someone else joining in the conversation to try and help you is now going to be pretty confused with half of the conversation now deleted.

 

[One Cool Trick]

did you try with a blank ini and /mac kissassist pullertank

Yes. I literally did a complete delete and reload both MQ2 and Launcher (Out of the Box, I've never used any new plugins beyond what Vanilla already includes), then manually edited the INI files for each toon, to include the tank, which I've listed at the top.

 

[One Cool Trick]

I know you can't delete their posts. you deleted 13 of your posts to which people took time out of their day to respond to.

someone else joining in the conversation to try and help you is now going to be pretty confused with half of the conversation now deleted.

That was not my intention, was just trying to clean up the chatter back and forth and allow people to see what was already suggested and implemented thus far; hence the "UPDATE" post. In addition, I also update the original post each time for people to see the "current" problem after implementing said suggestions.

Trust me I am truly at a loss here and really appreciate everyone's help here! Many thanks!

 

[Robban]

Yes. I literally did a complete delete and reload both MQ2 and Launcher (Out of the Box, I've never used any new plugins beyond what Vanilla already includes), then manually edited the INI files for each toon, to include the tank, which I've listed at the top.

well, I wanted you to try pulling with the blank ini, to se if that worked.
If that worked you could start adding all your stuff in after that

 

[One Cool Trick]

well, I wanted you to try pulling with the blank ini, to se if that worked.
If that worked you could start adding all your stuff in after that

Yep just tried it. Pulled with fresh INI on the tank, it still was "waiting" until I left mouseclicked a spell on my spellbar.

UPDATED/CORRECTION: I ended the macro, then ran it again... it pulled without waiting on me to cast a buff... any ideas there? However, because it's a fresh INI, it's not buffing, casting spells, just pulling with melee, and melee'ing

Like I said, I felt like it was "waiting" until I buffed, but looking at my INI, I am not sure what I can change for the buff/rebuffs...

 

[deathlock]

Try this:

## Pull with highest Protest spell
PullWith=Protest for Honor

##  OR

## Pull with pet!
#PullWith=Pet

PullMeleeStick=0

MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=40

## Only used with Advanced Path
UseWayPointZ=0

## Percentage of spell range distance to stop at before you use spell to cast.
PullRadiusToUse=90

## Seconds to wait between Pulls
PullWait=15

PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=120|2|Cond19

## Min to Max level of mobs you are looking to pull
PullLevel=50|200
PullArcWidth=360

PullOnReturn=1
PullNamedsFirst=1
ActNatural=1

UseCalm=0
CalmWith=Harmony
CheckForMemblurredMobsInCamp=0

Looks like you pull level 0 to level 0 mobs.

Start KA with /Mac kissasist12001 Pullertank <Your name here>

 

[One Cool Trick]

Try this:

## Pull with highest Protest spell
PullWith=Protest for Honor

##  OR

## Pull with pet!
#PullWith=Pet

PullMeleeStick=0

MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=40

## Only used with Advanced Path
UseWayPointZ=0

## Percentage of spell range distance to stop at before you use spell to cast.
PullRadiusToUse=90

## Seconds to wait between Pulls
PullWait=15

PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=120|2|Cond19

## Min to Max level of mobs you are looking to pull
PullLevel=50|200
PullArcWidth=360

PullOnReturn=1
PullNamedsFirst=1
ActNatural=1

UseCalm=0
CalmWith=Harmony
CheckForMemblurredMobsInCamp=0

Looks like you pull level 0 to level 0 mobs.

Start KA with /Mac kissasist12001 Pullertank <Your name here>

Forgive me.

Where is this stuff located? For instance, I don't see "PullNamedsFirst"

What do the ## mean here? Do I need to put them into the INI?

So I modified what already exists in the INI; there are some things I've either never messed with or do not recognize/see in the INI file? I am able to just plug those into the INI ? (i.e. PullNamedsFirst , is that a default command you can put into the INI or another plugin outside of the Vanilla MQ2?)

 

[deathlock]

## are lines that are commented out, they are for information purposes. Those other lines you didn't see in your INi are remnants of older version. I hadn't removed them I guess.

 

[deathlock]

Cleaned Up:

## Pull with highest Protest spell
PullWith=Protest for Honor

PullMeleeStick=0

MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=40

## Only used with Advanced Path
UseWayPointZ=0

## Percentage of spell range distance to stop at before you use spell to cast.
PullRadiusToUse=90

## Seconds to wait between Pulls
PullWait=15

PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=120|2|Cond19

## Min to Max level of mobs you are looking to pull
PullLevel=50|200

PullArcWidth=360
PullOnReturn=1

 

[One Cool Trick]

Cleaned Up:

## Pull with highest Protest spell
PullWith=Protest for Honor

PullMeleeStick=0

MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=40

## Only used with Advanced Path
UseWayPointZ=0

## Percentage of spell range distance to stop at before you use spell to cast.
PullRadiusToUse=90

## Seconds to wait between Pulls
PullWait=15

PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=120|2|Cond19

## Min to Max level of mobs you are looking to pull
PullLevel=50|200

PullArcWidth=360
PullOnReturn=1

Sorry for delayed response, I made all the updates and it is still ONLY pulling once I've manually clicked a spell and it only pulls one time, kills all the adds, then waits again til I click again...

 

[One Cool Trick]

That said I am getting this error:

[KissError]
LastCMD:=/if (!37) {
ErrorDateTime:=01/06/2021 17:35:38
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=118151
BuildDate:=20210105

I tried to search for this in the folder, but it's not finding it... any clue what this means?

 

[One Cool Trick]

Well, I've literally spent all day trying to figure it out... I keep getting this error and have a feeling this is what's keeping my pullertank from pulling without having to manually cast a spell each time... hopefully, some resolution comes soon thanks for all your help today everyone and if you think of anything else, I'll be here trying to get mq2 working again...

 

[Robban]

Buffs6=Group Perfected Invisibility to Undead|Me

Hold on here.... are you buffing yourself with invis? Then ofcourse the macro wont do anything until you click on a spell...
Did you really use this ini with kiss11? Dont think it would have worked then either

 

[One Cool Trick]

Buffs6=Group Perfected Invisibility to Undead|Me

Hold on here.... are you buffing yourself with invis? Then ofcourse the macro wont do anything until you click on a spell...
Did you really use this ini with kiss11? Dont think it would have worked then either

Yes. I used it this way prior. I was under the impression that the "me" modifier meant if the tank didn't have that buff, then he would cast it on himself each time after buffs. I feel like a lot of the INI characteristics changed, so I did A LOT of fiddling with it the past two days (yesterday I tried, today I reached out for help and kept trying).

That said, I "think" I may have finally worked it out and got it up and running... but I'm exhausted so I will verify again in the morning. If it's good I'll post the new INI I have going (where by coincidence, I did remove that Group Invis prior to reading this as a test LOL)

 

[One Cool Trick]

Buffs6=Group Perfected Invisibility to Undead|Me

Hold on here.... are you buffing yourself with invis? Then ofcourse the macro wont do anything until you click on a spell...
Did you really use this ini with kiss11? Dont think it would have worked then either

Resolved it and still casting Shauri's AND Group IVU in my INI and it's working great! Thanks for your help sir! My INI is AMAZING, better than before minus the KissAssist macro issue with PullerTank Invis/IVU before pulling.