Problem - Spell Gems permanently greyed out

[Ionis]

Version of KissAssist.mac?

11.005

When did your problem start?

1/7/2020

Character Role?

1. PullerTank

What class is having this issue?

1. Paladin

How often does this issue occur?

Often

Can you reproduce the issue?

Most likely.

Hey!

So this only seems to happen on my tank, after a while of going his spell gems will permanently bug out and go inactive (as if stuck on GCD) until I manually come and fix it. I know that there is a way to fix this using EQMule's KA compile, but is there a way to fix this using Maskoi's? I also know that this may be caused by using items in conjunction with spells so I tried removing any clickies I had going (only had my Veiled BP) but it still ended up happening, albeit took more time to happen. I haven't been able to sit down and watch exactly what's making this happen but I'll try now. As well, I have my other toons set up to cast spells while using clickies and none of them have bugged out, only my Paladin. I also use MQ2 in conjunction with ISBoxer and this used to only happen to me while I was tabbed out in Chrome or something, but now is happening regardless of whether I'm in the same window or not. Weirdly enough, I was grinding out AAs in Kor'Sha to max and this never really happened but as soon as I moved to Overthere it started happening regularly, probably something to do with the resource usage of all of my clients since OT is much bigger? Not sure, I do know it's an EQ bug though, just wondering if there's anyway in Maskoi's MQ2 to fix this.

Any ideas?

 

[Sum1]

It's an EQ bug.

Hit an AA with a cast time (in other words, not an insta-cast AA) and duck out of it. It'll unfreeze your spells.

 

[Ionis]

It's an EQ bug.

Hit an AA with a cast time (in other words, not an insta-cast AA) and duck out of it. It'll unfreeze your spells.

Aye, I do know how to fix it manually but I was wondering if there was any way to set up KA to fix it since it happens so frequently?

Edit:
So, I've toyed with the settings of my boxes to lower CPU usage and have hard restarted everything and it hasn't happened yet even with the Veiled BP in rotation. Will see how it goes as it keeps going. Still looking for a fix if one exists for Maskoi's KA.

 

[Sum1]

Is there a TLO for cast.ready or something like that? Find something that you can check whether its ready or not to cast, and if it's not ready to cast for some time duration maybe execute a clicky AA? Not sure.

 

[hellfyre]

Have you tried setting the spell gem stuck option I see in my kiss ini. I know that was once because of muleassist but I believe it's in both now? Someone else may correct me.

 

[Ionis]

Have you tried setting the spell gem stuck option I see in my kiss ini. I know that was once because of muleassist but I believe it's in both now? Someone else may correct me.

It doesn't seem like I have that option, here's my full INI:

[CODE lang="ini" title="Paladin INI"][General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
Role=PullerTank
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=1
RezAcceptOn=1|96
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=1
CharInfo=Paladin|111|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Merciful Fury
Buffs2=Preservation of Rodcet
Buffs3=Defiant Stance
Buffs4=Revitalizating Steel
Buffs5=Brell's Blessed Bastion|MA
Buffs6=Armor of Steadfast Faith
Buffs7=Hand of the Ashbound Keeper
Buffs8=Lesson of the Devoted|cond8
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=Armor of Mercy|4
AE2=NULL
AE3=Beacon of the Righteous|2
AE4=Hallowed Lodestar|4
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=4
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=Shield Flash|100|cond7
DPS4=Deflection Discipline|100|cond1
DPS5=Blessed Guardian Discipline|100|cond2
DPS6=Kar`Zok Mantle|100|cond3
DPS7=Armor of Mercy|100|cond4
DPS8=Armor of the Inquisitor|90|cond6
DPS9=Group Armor of the Inquisitor|100|cond5
DPS10=Unyielding Affirmation|100|cond5
DPS11=Reflexive Reverence|90|cond5
DPS12=Protective Devotion|100
DPS13=Refute for Honor|100
DPS14=Sanctimonious Audacity|100
DPS15=Brilliant Exoneration|100
DPS16=Force of the Timorous Deep|100
DPS17=Valiant Diversion|100
DPS18=Burst of Morninglight|100
DPS19=Force of Disruption|100
DPS20=Veiled Victorious Horizon Exarch Breastplate|100
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=10
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
Aggro6=NULL
Aggro7=NULL
Aggro8=NULL
Aggro9=NULL
Aggro10=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=15
Heals1=Lay on Hands|30
Heals2=Hand of Piety|40
Heals3=Wave of Expiation|50|cond9
Heals4=Gift of Resurrection|0|rezooc
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=1
AutoRezWith=Gift of Resurrection
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Refute for Honor
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=1000
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=1
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=9
Cond1=${Target.Named} && !${Me.ActiveDisc.ID}
Cond2=${Target.Named} && !${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deflection Discipline]} && !${Me.AltAbilityReady[Shield Flash]} && !${Me.Song[Shield Flash].ID}
Cond3=${Target.Named} && !${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deflection Discipline]} && !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Blessed Guardian Discipline]}
Cond4=${Target.Named} && !${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deflection Discipline]} && !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Blessed Guardian Discipline]} !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Kar`Zok Mantle]}
Cond5=${Target.Named}
Cond6=${Target.Named} && !${Me.Song[Group Armor of the Inquisitor].ID} && !${Me.AltAbilityReady[Group Armor of the Inquisitor]}
Cond7=${Target.Named} && !${Me.ActiveDisc.ID} && !${Me.CombatAbilityReady[Deflection Discipline]}
Cond8=${Me.AltAbilityReady[Lesson of the Devoted]}
Cond9=${Group.Injured[50]}>1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=01/04/2020 05:54:42
ErrorMsg:=Cannot end a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=269772618
BuildDate:=20191225
CurrentUI:=Default
[/CODE]

Tell me if I happened to miss it, I've never used EQMule's KA compile only Maskoi's so I am not entirely certain Maskoi has built it in quite yet.

 

[Semantics]

I assume you have a 115 bard in your group. Quick Time is what is causing this to happen. It now reduces cast times to 0.5 so a lot of spells for hybrid type classes become instant cast, thus causing this issue. This will have to be bug fixed but if you run an SK, you can cast your IVU mid fight to clear things up, BST can FD, Ranger can cast entropy of nature, etc. Really frigging annoying and has been bug reported in EQ. Probably never get fixed lol.

 

[Ionis]

I assume you have a 115 bard in your group. Quick Time is what is causing this to happen. It now reduces cast times to 0.5 so a lot of spells for hybrid type classes become instant cast, thus causing this issue. This will have to be bug fixed but if you run an SK, you can cast your IVU mid fight to clear things up, BST can FD, Ranger can cast entropy of nature, etc. Really frigging annoying and has been bug reported in EQ. Probably never get fixed lol.

I do indeed have a Bard though not 115 (18/19 ranks) and it is set up to use Quick Time on cooldown (which would explain why it happens after a determinant amount of time). Imma try just removing Quick Time and see what goes on. Thanks for this tip! Had no idea Quick Time did this

 

[Semantics]

I do indeed have a Bard though not 115 (18/19 ranks) and it is set up to use Quick Time on cooldown (which would explain why it happens after a determinant amount of time). Imma try just removing Quick Time and see what goes on. Thanks for this tip! Had no idea Quick Time did this

No problem at all. Hopefully the devs (EQ) fix it soon. /laff

 

[Ionis]

No problem at all. Hopefully the devs (EQ) fix it soon. /laff

Haha, one can hope. Problem hasn't happened since I took Quick Time out of the rotation. Thanks again for the tip, saved me a huge headache!

 

[ChatWithThisName]

I don't have a bard in my group but my SK does this with Spear spell at 110. I took it out of my lineup and my spells don't lock up anymore. In case anyone else has the issue on an SK

 

[drwhomphd]

Does mq2EasyFinds /unstickgems solve this issue?

 

[ctaylor22]

When the gems are greyed out has anyone tried to see what ${Me.Casting.ID} returns or even ${Me.SpellInCooldown} or even just the fun of it try ${Me.BardSongPlaying}. I know the character is not a bard, just wondering what it returns.

 

[Many_Whelps]

When the gems are greyed out has anyone tried to see what ${Me.Casting.ID} returns or even ${Me.SpellInCooldown} or even just the fun of it try ${Me.BardSongPlaying}. I know the character is not a bard, just wondering what it returns.

it hasn't happened to me in a long time, but iirc, ${Me.Casting.ID} returned a non-zero value. I didn't try SpellInCooldown nor BardSongPlaying.

 

[Sic]

dbg confirmed back in november this was an issue - really surprised they didn't fix it yet heh

 

[Sic]

When the gems are greyed out has anyone tried to see what ${Me.Casting.ID} returns or even ${Me.SpellInCooldown} or even just the fun of it try ${Me.BardSongPlaying}. I know the character is not a bard, just wondering what it returns.

just had it happen to my bst, it shows a spell that was casting with me.casting and the id with me.casting.id - me.bardsongplayer returns false

it appears to occur around using an AA immediately after a spell is done casting

 

[ctaylor22]

just had it happen to my bst, it shows a spell that was casting with me.casting and the id with me.casting.id - me.bardsongplayer returns false

it appears to occur around using an AA immediately after a spell is done casting

Well if ${Me.Casting.ID} returns a value, while ${Window[CastingWindow].Open} is false, that is impossible on a normal caster. Only bards can pull that off. So would be easy to test if ${Me.Casting.ID} && !${Window[CastingWindow].Open} then you need to do something like /stopcast. Has anyone tried to use /stopcast to see what happens?

 

[Sic]

Well if ${Me.Casting.ID} returns a value, while ${Window[CastingWindow].Open} is false, that is impossible on a normal caster. Only bards can pull that off. So would be easy to test if ${Me.Casting.ID} && !${Window[CastingWindow].Open} then you need to do something like /stopcast. Has anyone tried to use /stopcast to see what happens?

yeah stopcast won't do anything - but using certain (not all) aa abilities will unstick it

 

[KingArthur]

yeah stopcast won't do anything - but using certain (not all) aa abilities will unstick it

I believe using AA that have casting time will unlock it, like the unity line for self buffing...

 

[ctaylor22]

But not every character will have an AA that can be used, just trying to figure a generic way to get the caster back on track.. if you click the spell gem bar like you can a bards, does that do anything? There has to be a way to get the EQClient to reset the spell gems, like will it let you mem a spell to a gem?

 

[KingArthur]

Every class that has a spell bar has the unity AA line, and they all have a long cast time.
No, click the spell bar won’t unlock it.

 

[Many_Whelps]

But not every character will have an AA that can be used, just trying to figure a generic way to get the caster back on track.. if you click the spell gem bar like you can a bards, does that do anything? There has to be a way to get the EQClient to reset the spell gems, like will it let you mem a spell to a gem?

Zoning or logging to char select works. Not exactly the answer you're looking for, I know.

 

[Sum1]

But not every character will have an AA that can be used, just trying to figure a generic way to get the caster back on track.. if you click the spell gem bar like you can a bards, does that do anything? There has to be a way to get the EQClient to reset the spell gems, like will it let you mem a spell to a gem?

Which class doesn't have an activated AA ability?

Hell, click origin and then duck out. Your spells will unlock.

 

[ctaylor22]

I forgot about origin. Yea Origin should work.

 

[ctaylor22]

When the gems are all greyed out, what does ${Me.SpellReady[1]} ${Me.SpellReady[2]} ${Me.SpellReady[3]} return?

 

[ChatWithThisName]

for SK I was using the AA for IVU. Didn't need to duck it out, just hit the aa and it cleared my stuck casting.

 

[ctaylor22]

Can I get someone to see what is returned for this /echo ${Me.SpellReady[1]} ${Me.SpellReady[2]} ${Me.SpellReady[3]} when your spell gems are locked up. Trying to add in some checks and need to know what is being returned by normal casters when gems are locked up.

 

[Sic]

Can I get someone to see what is returned for this /echo ${Me.SpellReady[1]} ${Me.SpellReady[2]} ${Me.SpellReady[3]} when your spell gems are locked up. Trying to add in some checks and need to know what is being returned by normal casters when gems are locked up.

sure i'll see if i can get jammed up on server up

 

[ctaylor22]

Thanks..

 

[Saffron]

Which class doesn't have an activated AA ability?

Hell, click origin and then duck out. Your spells will unlock.

Good idea on origin. I will have to try it. My cleric was stuck last night and I gave up messing around with aa and just camped. I also turned off quick time on my bard.

Anyone been seeing things like epic and BP clickies not working? Keeps happening on my SK.

 

[Sic]

Thanks..

TRUE TRUE TRUE

 

[Sic]

Happened at exactly the same time on my cleric and my bst lol both giving same results - coincidentally it shows their first spell for casting and casting.id (but i think this is just due to the order things are happening in) it goes from using an aa to casting a spell and that's where the lockout up happens

/echo ${Me.SpellReady[1]} ${Me.SpellReady[2]} ${Me.SpellReady[3]} all show True
Me.Casting.ID shows an id
Me.Casting shows one of my spell names
{Window[CastingWindow].Open} is false

 

[Many_Whelps]

Good idea on origin. I will have to try it. My cleric was stuck last night and I gave up messing around with aa and just camped. I also turned off quick time on my bard.

Anyone been seeing things like epic and BP clickies not working? Keeps happening on my SK.

For cleric, use yaulp AA

 

[ctaylor22]

@Sic Damn, not what I wanted to hear... For a bard that would of returned False False False.. So the client actually doesn't see or check that the Gems are greyed out.. As far as the client is concerned everything is copesetic and ready to cast.. Ok will have to think about that, but I do have a fix in place using the Me.Casting.ID and !${Window[CastingWindow].Open} because if your NOT a bard that should be imposible.

 

[drawthow]

sure i'll see if i can get jammed up on server up

That problem is hitting me right now running /echo ${Me.SpellReady[1]} ${Me.SpellReady[2]} ${Me.SpellReady[3]} the output is TRUE TRUE TRUE

 

[drawthow]

an instacast AA did not clear it but a long casting AA did. As soon as the AA finished my toon opened his spellbook an started meming spells.

 

[Sic]

yaulp works for cleric - FD for bstie works

 

[ctaylor22]

has anyone tried using a long cast AA and before it finishes doing a /stopcast and see if the gems clear up?

 

[drawthow]

I did Throne of Heroes and ducked to stop it.

 

[Tone]

You know EQmule's version of Kiss has a fix for this if you want to get "inspired" by it.