Question - some conditions not working correctly. Insight needed

[bbcool]

Hey guys I have been reading and trying out as much as I can but have finally broken down and need a little push in the right direction. I have a couple conditions that do not work if you would be so kind as to tell me why I am wrong and how I should script them I would appreciate it.

The first issue I have is on a rogue trying to cast a self buff but only when he does not have 3 different buffs (effect window) up that would block it. Currently the rogue just chain casts the buff until it sticks which is an issue. I have echoed the condition while one of the buffs is up and get returned (!8, !NULL, !NULL).
The line in question is:
Buffs6=Gloves of the crimson sigil|DUAL|Call of fire
BuffsCOn6=(!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Bone Posion].ID})


I have a couple other issues but am hoping if this one can be explained it might be enough to let me fix the others on my own, so I will not post those yet.

 

[kaen01]

Buffs6=Gloves of the crimson sigil|DUAL|Call of fire
BuffsCOn6=!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Bone Posion].ID}
withouth the paranthesis, when its 3 condtions that is checked with or

if it was say condition1 && condition2 or Condition3 you would nbeed the paranathsiesees condition1 && (condition2 or Condition3) on like that.

 

[deathlock]

For short buff duration I think you need a condition like so:

!${Me.Song[NAME OF SPELL 1 HERE].ID} || !${Me.Song[NAME OF SPELL 2 HERE].ID} || !${Me.Song[NAME OF SPELL 3 HERE].ID}

This should stop him from casting.

 

[bbcool]

have tried it with and without same result. Thank you for the response though did learn something new.

 

[bbcool]

To Deathlock. Thank you for the response. I did say short duration and that is my mistake the buffs are in the effect window and not the song window. sorry words do matter and I used the wrong ones.

 

[bbcool]

Just to update i echoed the line without the (). was returned (!12, !NULL, !NULL). any insight on what the !8 vs !12 values refer to ?

 

[eqtrader74]

12 or 8 are probably the effect window # slot that the buff is showing up in. And if it didn't find the other buffs, they'd answer back Null.

 

[bbcool]

12 or 8 are probably the effect window # slot that the buff is showing up in. And if it didn't find the other buffs, they'd answer back Null.

ty for the response that makes sense.

 

[eqtrader74]

Also try BuffsCond6 instead of BuffsCOn6. You may need to skim down your buff section, KA will make a BuffCond#=TRUE if it doesn't find one for each number. (You may have two entries for 6 now)

Buffs6=Gloves of the crimson sigil|DUAL|Call of fire
BuffsCond6=!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Bone Posion].ID}

 

[bbcool]

Also try BuffsCond6 instead of BuffsCOn6. You may need to skim down your buff section, KA will make a BuffCond#=TRUE if it doesn't find one for each number. (You may have two entries for 6 now)

Buffs6=Gloves of the crimson sigil|DUAL|Call of fire
BuffsCond6=!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Bone Posion].ID}

fixed, still not working sadly. ty though

 

[eqtrader74]

Hmm, can you post your whole ini? We'll take a look.

 

[bbcool]

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BuffsCond6=!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} || !${Me.Buff[Bone Poison].ID}
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[eqtrader74]

Oh I guess KA11 doesn't write the other buffconds in. So you want it to do buff 6 if you don't have any of those buffs? Maybe you want to check with &&'s (and) or not !+||?
Your test says: (!12, !NULL, !NULL) = (I see buff1, I don't see 2 or 3)

KA wants to know"Are any of these !(buffchecks) returning True?" Because you're saying "or" between each, so if any kick back TRUE, fire buff 6.

I think KA sees = (!12, !NULL, !NULL) as FALSE || TRUE || TRUE = Do buff 6.

So one of these two maybe?

Check for negatives but confirm all are negative:

Buffs6=Gloves of the crimson sigil|DUAL|Call of Fire
BuffsCond6=!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Bone Poison].ID}

Edit: Well my positive condition check attempt failed, so removed that one. Man these logic loops throw me off when it's ! combined with &&/||

 

[MaxD]

So I think the problem is that in Kiss 11 conditions are done differently you're using kiss11 as per the ini

Conditions get their own section now so it would be more like:
Buffs6=Gloves of the crimson sigil|DUAL|Call of Fire|Cond1
then down in your conditions section something like

ConOn=1
CondSize=15
Cond1=!${Me.Buff[Envenomed Blades XXIII].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Dirty Fighting XII].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Bone Poison].ID}

You can see examples in Maskoi's post located here:
https://www.redguides.com/community/threads/kiss11.67140/page-3#post-367267

 

[bbcool]

okay I will test those out but believe I had tried that before. as a conditional i was reading the || (or) as saying if any of those = true do not cast. I was expected the &&(and) to need all 3 to be true to not cast. I am reading this wrong ?

 

[eqtrader74]

MaxD = Yeah I think the [Conditions] section change is only for KA 11.008 beta atm. But that is a good think to check. bbcool's ini says he's using KA 11.002.

bbcool = Ah, change ConditionsOn=1 in the main section to =2. For that check, =1 is the old way and it makes a separate conditions ini for your toon. =2 lets you have your conditions in the same ini. Once you change it, run KA again and it will add a bunch of =TRUE conditions to your ini. Then replace those as needed. Right now your KA is probably just reading a TRUE in the separate ini.

 

[bbcool]

alright changed it to 2 and it did add in all the cond lines as expected. still firing off the gloves like no tomorrow will change it more and check back in. Thank you guys for the assist i do appreciate it

 

[bbcool]

and it looks like the replacement of the || with the && with the condition 2 set has fixed me. Thank you so much