Question - Setting Raid Assist

[mb4xy3]

Every day I set my groups / create a raid, turn my warrior into Main Assist via the raid window, the I press a hotkey that is as follows:

/multiline ; /bct monks //mnk raidmode 1 ; /bct beastlords //bst raidmode 1 ; /bct clerics //clr raidmode 1

For all of my existing toons, they would go into raidmode and select my warrior from the drop down of options on the RaidAssist window.

however, i just added another monk and another beastlord, and for whatever reason, they will check the RaidMode box, but will not select my warrior from the drop down menu. I'm not sure what I have set on the other toons that this works on and why it isn't automatically selecting my name from the dropdown for the new toons, any ideas?

 

[Szazor]

If you just added a few toons - have they joined the EQBCS server correctly?

/noparse /bcaa //docommand /${Me.Class.ShortName} raidmode 1
Is my hotkey to do the same thing.

You could try turning them to manual, then turning them back to Assist or chase etc. I have seen delays in setting modes and assist sitting at unassigned until it "Refreshes" my switching manual, then back to chase.

It will be something simple im sure.

 

[mb4xy3]

They are on the EQBCS server as the raidmode gets checked, they just don't select my name from the dropdown. It seems none of my clerics select my name either, although that is fine for them. I added a beast, monk, and sk and none check my name in the drop down, but all do check the RaidMode box when issuing my command.

I do like your command though, cleaner, i will use that for other commands I issue!

 

[hellfyre]

/noparse /bca //docommand /${Me.Class.ShortName} RaidAssistNum 1

Is what I use to make sure all the raid has main assist set.

 

[mb4xy3]

the combo of both replies fixed me, thank you!

 

[Sic]

Every day I set my groups / create a raid, turn my warrior into Main Assist via the raid window, the I press a hotkey that is as follows:

/multiline ; /bct monks //mnk raidmode 1 ; /bct beastlords //bst raidmode 1 ; /bct clerics //clr raidmode 1

For all of my existing toons, they would go into raidmode and select my warrior from the drop down of options on the RaidAssist window.

however, i just added another monk and another beastlord, and for whatever reason, they will check the RaidMode box, but will not select my warrior from the drop down menu. I'm not sure what I have set on the other toons that this works on and why it isn't automatically selecting my name from the dropdown for the new toons, any ideas?

You still have to say which raid assist you want to assist (and they have to be assigned as raid assist in your raid window)

> you should set up the cwtn aliases in my hotkey guide <

then once you have your raid formed you can

/cwtnra raidmode on <--- this has everyone go into raidmode
/cwtnr raidassist 1 <--- this has everyone except you, assist raidassist 1

and be done


to set a raid MA

highlight what toon in your raid window


hit the "MainAssist" button


they will now have an "A" next to role for "Assist"


(if i was using a berzerker)
/ber raidmode on
/ber raidassist 1

now i am in raidmode, and i will be assisting my 1st designated raid assist

 

[mb4xy3]

ya, somehow i lost the /raidassist 1, wierd it was workign on some without that line and not others, but got it working now.

 

[Blas]

Hey all im having troubles with raidmovement. I read that i have to enable raidmode and then delegate the mainassist. But this stupid AA costs so much and im not able to grind it well without having it. Is there maybe a hidden command to manually declare the MA? Or how are you all doing this? Maybe you got me a tip on how to easy grind the delegate MA AA?
Do you sit into a zone and make a raid with one group and then use a camp to pull to there? Then again im not even sure that the group reacts properly without an MA.

 

[Sic]

Hey all im having troubles with raidmovement. I read that i have to enable raidmode and then delegate the mainassist. But this stupid AA costs so much and im not able to grind it well without having it. Is there maybe a hidden command to manually declare the MA? Or how are you all doing this? Maybe you got me a tip on how to easy grind the delegate MA AA?
Do you sit into a zone and make a raid with one group and then use a camp to pull to there? Then again im not even sure that the group reacts properly without an MA.

no, we use raid ma from your raid window.

if you want to assist in raidmode, you use your raid window to assign a raid ma

if you want to assist not in group mode you will have someone assigned as group ma in your group ma window.


i'm not sure what you mean "AA costs" --- just open your everquest raid window and assign a member as raid assist

highlight what toon


hit the "MainAssist" button


they now have an "A" next to Role


(if i was using a berzerker)
/ber raidmode on
/ber raidassist 1

 

[Blas]

I play on a emulator and the Raid MA AA costs about 6 points if i recall. Not sure if this feature is enabled at level 1 on live servers. But how whould you go about it, if you had to grind the Raid-AAs befor your able to use the Raid-MA ability? ..since the toons need the MA to work.

 

[Sic]

I play on a emulator and the Raid MA AA costs about 6 points if i recall. Not sure if this feature is enabled at level 1 on live servers. But how whould you go about it, if you had to grind the Raid-AAs befor your able to use them? ..since the toons need the MA to work.

if i wanted to use raid assist and i needed to grind 6 aas to use it, i would go get 6 aas on the toon i would want to use raid assist designation on.

or i wouldn't use raidmode

 

[Blas]

Of course But to get Raid AAs you need to form a raid with your toons. But your toons dont work without a Main Assist, so how do you grind the AAs?

 

[Sic]

Of course But to get Raid AAs you need to form a raid with your toons. But your toons dont work without a Main Assist, so how do you grind the AAs?

you can use manual mode and call toons to assist you.

or sounds like you should try and emu that doesn't make your life harder than it needs to be.

or you can be in a raid and use non-raidmode like i mentioned. and have each group do their assisting off of their group main assist like you would do in non-raidmode

 

[Jetanroth]

I play on a emulator and the Raid MA AA costs about 6 points if i recall. Not sure if this feature is enabled at level 1 on live servers. But how whould you go about it, if you had to grind the Raid-AAs befor your able to use the Raid-MA ability? ..since the toons need the MA to work.

They don't need the Raid MA to work. You can set a group MA while you are in a Raid and grind out the 6 AAs. Then you will be able to do Raid MA.

 

[Blas]

Maybe the other question whould be.. what doesent work without having a Main Assist. Will the toons not heal or just not assist for attacking. Or do they attack if they are in "camp" mode but dont follow the MA without a delegated MA..

 

[Sic]

Maybe the other question whould be.. what doesent work without having a Main Assist. Will the toons not heal or just not assist for attacking. Or do they attack if they are in "camp" mode but dont follow the MA without a delegated MA..

I answered this in the first response

if you want to automatically assist:

in raidmode -> you need a raid assist
in not-raidmode -> you need group main assist

 

[Blas]

The thing is, when i make a raid i cant right click the toons anymore to delegate Tank, Puller or Assist.
As soon as i form a raid the symbols for Tank, Puller, Assist dissapear.

 

[Sic]

The thing is, when i make a raid i cant right click the toons anymore to delegate Tank, Puller or Assist.

Blas,

I think you're not understanding me, or something.

"being in a raid" this is eq
"being in raidmode" this is cwtn

you don't have to "be in raidmode" when you are "in a raid"


but if you are "in raidmode" then you need a raid main assist set.

since you can't "set a raid main assist" yet - don't "be in raidmode"

you can still be in a raid. - set your group main assists as if you had single groups, and just call their MA's to assist you when you want them to assist. I have as "Assist Me" hotkey in my hotkey guide below

Please see >>> Getting Started with CWTN plugins! (Movement, UI Window, Clickies, Pulling, ETC) Check Here First! <<<


If, for some reason, you are unable to use group designation while in a raid then you will need to utilize the "Assist Me" method as mentioned above

 

[Jetanroth]

The thing is, when i make a raid i cant right click the toons anymore to delegate Tank, Puller or Assist.

The leader of the group should still be able to right click and select role for the group. (unless EMU is somehow different?)

 

[Blas]

I'll have to try again. But im pretty sure that once im in Raidmode (Everquest), im not able to delegate Group Assist anymore. Maybe that is something, wich has changed over the years and the RoF2 client isent able to do it.

 

[Sic]

in that case, you'll want to utilize the "Assist Me" button i mentioned above - as there is we use designated assist information to automatically assist

 

[Blas]

Got it, know the Ass-me button Wasent sure if they also heal and stuff. I dont know what mechanics are missing, when there is no MA.

 

[Sic]

Got it, know the Ass-me button Wasent sure if they also heal and stuff. I dont know what mechanics are missing, when there is no MA.

they would heal and buff non-mas as non-mas. if someone isn't MA, they're not going to be healed at MA values, nor buffed with MA only buffs.

 

[ChatWithThisName]

To clarify, they would do this within group unless you were in raid mode (which obviously wouldn't be something you're doing). However if you want to heal Out of group you can assign a target as an XTarget (target player, click one of the xtarget slots, set as target) and turn on UseXTargetHealing----etc

 

[Blas]

Thanks fellas.

 

[Blas]

So i played around with it. Remember i play on Emu.

1. The raid delegate MA only works with 18+ in the raid. So if you play 2 groups, this doesent work out.
2. With one group in raid, it is not possible to use group delegate tank, puller, assist. At some point it started to work. With about 12 people im not sure. It really is weird.
3. The Assist me Button doesent work well. If i set the group to Camp, the casters will sit down. Doing an assist command and turning on attack only works for melee classes.

So all in all, it whould be nice to manually type the main assist or the drop down shows every member of the raid. Or maybe a BYOS version for the main assist i dont know.

Edit: A manual entry whould also save the hassle with getting the raid AAs. Since its so cumbersome to kill stuff without the delegate MA ability.

 

[Sic]

So i played around with it. Remember i play on Emu.

1. The raid delegate MA only works with 18+ in the raid. So if you play 2 groups, this doesent work out.
2. With one group in raid, it is not possible to use group delegate tank, puller, assist. At some point it started to work. With about 12 people im not sure. It really is weird.
3. The Assist me Button doesent work well. If i set the group to Camp, the casters will sit down. Doing an assist command and turning on attack only works for melee classes.

So all in all, it whould be nice to manually type the main assist or the drop down shows every member of the raid. Or maybe a BYOS version for the main assist i dont know.

Edit: A manual entry whould also save the hassle with getting the raid AAs. Since its so cumbersome to kill stuff without the delegate MA ability.

sorry as mentioned. there is no way to manually type the main assist, nor will there be

use a hotkey to broadcast everyone to target and assist on the mob you want the to as mentioned. I have one in my hotkey resource. you would use manual mode, not in a mode that you would be sitting down or returning somewhere.

1. sounds like a poopy restriction, but unfortunately nothing the plugins can do with this
2. also sounds like a poopy restirction, and also unfortunately nothing the plugins can do with this
3. use an assist key with everyone in manual mode.
4. that isnt possible & "Bring your own spell" is what byos stands for
5. as mentioned, not possible.

sounds like a good reason to bump up to 3 groups imo

 

[Blas]

Sorry to bump this one. I asked around in the EQEMU dev discord. Apperantly Raid delegate MA does not work on emu. So i second the vote for a manual option. Maybe you could list everyone in the raid inside the dropdown. Not sure what the easiest and most userfriendly option whould be.
Cheers

 

[Sic]

Sorry to bump this one. I asked around in the EQEMU dev discord. Apperantly Raid delegate MA does not work on emu. So i second the vote for a manual option. Maybe you could list everyone in the raid inside the dropdown. Not sure what the easiest and most userfriendly option whould be.
Cheers

Thank you for your input.

There is no an option for voting.

It doesn't work. How you think it works with a simple drop down by selecting a name.

Sorry about that. Unfortunately, that's the way that it is. I'm going to lock this thread now.