Problem - Puller attempting to grab mobs already engaged by other groups

[KDEpic]

Not sure if this is because I'm using MQ2Nav to pull but my PullerTank will run right up to Mobs that have long been engaged by other groups. Any way to stop this?

 

[Aipoc76]

MQ2Nav has nothing to do with the targets you select. Give more info. What mac, if KISS post your ini. No one can help if they are guessing due to no info.

 

[Aipoc76]

It also could be because you have Epic in your name, and you just think everything belongs to you!!!

 

[KDEpic]

Apologies - running KISS - didn't see anything in here that aborts mobs aggroed by PCs so assumed there was something else I may have been missing:

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.005
Role=pullertank
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=500
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Monk|33|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=0
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=0
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=0
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=NULL
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[Pull]
PullWith=Throw Stone
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=700
MaxZRange=200
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=1 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=07/09/2020 20:50:58
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=1232971
BuildDate:=20200709
CurrentUI:=classic_spell_icons

mod edit: added code block to your ini

 

[KDEpic]

True, but all of my thanks are belong to you?

 

[Sic]

MQ2Nav has nothing to do with the targets you select. Give more info. What mac, if KISS post your ini. No one can help if they are guessing due to no info.

this is in the kissassist forum section

 

[Aipoc76]

this is in the kissassist forum section

As if people never post stuff in the wrong forums. Nothing in his post referenced KISS. Just because i play a hafling doesnt mean im a druid! Was attempting to get the person the proper help. But you are correct. This is in the KISS forum, and since I dont use it, Ill not reply to KISS posts anymore. Thank you for clarifying that for me!

 

[surfdog21]

Open up your in game map, see if there is a group near you, if so set your pulling radius so the circle you pull from is not including their group. You may still intercept their target though if they too are pulling from your "circle" area. Best bet is to move somewhere else from my experience. On a side note, whats worse is when your master looter is trying to loot the other group's corpses! That can be quite an embarrassing "ninja looting" experience!

 

[ctaylor22]

Kiss will check if your target has a target of target and if that target is a PC or Pet that is not part of your group. There are 2 things you have to consider. 1 - Is that you don't target the mob until you are ready to actually aggro(pull) it. 2 - the mob has no target at the time you start the pull.

So if you start a pull and the mob has no target, then you run to the mob. Now why you are running to the mob another group pulls the mob. Your puller doesn't know that yet, so the puller runs close enough to the mob to pull it and then runs a validate test one last time, and the validate test now shows the mob should NOT be pulled, so you return to camp.

Another situation is if the mob is NOT LOS when you start the pull then the mob is NOT targeted, so the Validate routine can't be run. So when the puller gets close enough to pull the mob and the mob is LOS, the puller will target the mob and run the validate routine. If the mob has a target the pull is aborted and the puller returns to camp.

 

[BigDorf]

@KDEpic I have experienced this as well.

Like @surfdog21 has mentioned, that is how I roll.
if I have the group playing, in which VV/KA is "driving the puller", then I have to trust the code logic to not do anything unsporting. e.g. engage mobs already engaged.
If I see another party (solo, molo, group etc) has arrived and fighting same content, I have clear choice. Take control of the puller personally, or, move camp.

The code in KA makes decisions and does a fine job.
As @ctaylor22 has said there is some validate logic in the code (I havent read it yet, so accept his description of it without question).
The only thing that may appear odd is timing of the validates, in relation to navigates.
That is what it is at the moment in current code.


Regardless of the software being used, I just prefer to play safe, play nice and keep away from possible conflicts with other players.

 

[mroutlaw]

HAS THERE BEEN A FIX FOR ENGAGING MOBS, I SAW A GUY ON SEAFURIE ISLE USING SOMEONES BOX CREW TO PL HIMSELF HED PULL MOB CLOSE AND LET THEM FINISH IT AT 40 % LOL UGH capslock fail... lol

 

[ctaylor22]

Once a mob is in camp and on the Xtarget list the mob will be attacked. Here is why. Someone trains your group, is the same thing as this guy is doing to PL himself.