Problem - One toon getting almost no exp

[Ordell]

I have a bit of a problem (but you already knew that)

I run a 4 box/2merc macro, will not say which. SK, ENC, DRU, BST, all 115. Despite AA at 100%, the bst is getting 1-2% AAXP per kill while everyone else is getting 1/3 an AA. The others have racked up nearly 20 AA while the BST has 2. The SK has 46k aa while the BST has 26K and gets a fraction of the exp. I camped out the crew and restarted, still. Any ideas?

 

[kaen01]

your bsts aa exp settings could be bugged

do this
/alt off
/alt on 50
see how his exp stacks up using the mq2xptracker plugin

then if it seems like he getting a bit less than the others, do
/alt on 100

 

[Ordell]

Will do, thanks

At 50, 0.34% AAXP per kill
At 100, 2.34% AAXP per kill

That's in Droga btw

 

[an_image]

I have a bit of a problem (but you already knew that)

I run a 4 box/2merc macro, will not say which. SK, ENC, DRU, BST, all 115. Despite AA at 100%, the bst is getting 1-2% AAXP per kill while everyone else is getting 1/3 an AA. The others have racked up nearly 20 AA while the BST has 2. The SK has 46k aa while the BST has 26K and gets a fraction of the exp. I camped out the crew and restarted, still. Any ideas?

This may have changed, but if I remember correctly years ago, certain classes/races (hybrids mostly) used to incur penalties. Also certain classes grouped together leveled faster, as an example War, Cleric, Enchanter on a team with other pure classes used to level up much faster. Lastly, i believe (someone may have the facts behind it) 6 chars grouped together will level much faster than mercs added in.

 

[Ordell]

Moved to Eastern Wastes. Now getting almost a full aa per kill. Guess it was the zone

 

[Sylanos]

Some EOK zones have funky logic baked in. This was done to encourage people to xp in the new expansions when they came out. A lot of zones in EOK, whoever is first aggro will get the majority of the xp while everyone else gets piddly amounts.

 

[an_image]

Some EOK zones have funky logic baked in. This was done to encourage people to xp in the new expansions when they came out. A lot of zones in EOK, whoever is first aggro will get the majority of the xp while everyone else gets piddly amounts.

Oh wow...that's good to know. Thanks for sharing S

 

[Smokeybear72]

1.Make sure BL is not sharing if in a fellowship while hunting. Shift-Ctrl-F
2. I could have sworn similar issues in EoK earlier on while grinding after both hit 105 when my SK after a month had an extra 1000 AA then my BL which was Iksar and I played them both in every group ( Thought it was a race penalty but was only a couple years ago ), also read that the pullers would get more XP based on interactions as well as what SylanosScorn posted.
3. Didn't notice it in RoS and after.

 

[Stokes]

BST also get an exp penalty because of their pet. Their pet is like a merc and it steals experience. It's treated as if you have a Player 2 playing the game with you.

 

[Redmonkey]

They did a patch within the last year that reduces exp if running mercs in the group instead of live players -

Increased the experience bonus for having other players (not mercenaries) in your group.
- Increased the amount of AA experience you get in groups of 4 or more and raids of 13 or more.

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And from Prathun in March 2020 for group experience:
Was:
1 characters - 1x
2 characters - 1.38x
3 characters - 1.68x
4 characters - 1.92x
5 characters - 2.16x
6 characters - 2.2x

Is now:
1 characters - 1x
2 characters - 1.58x
3 characters - 1.92x
4 characters - 2.22x
5 characters - 2.5x
6 characters - 2.56x

Updated group XP numbers? | EverQuest Forums

So, before the change, the xp modifiers worked like this: 2 Characters is 20% bonus (120% xp per kill, divided by 2 so you get 60% of what the mob would...

forums.daybreakgames.com

 

[B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y]

And from Prathun in March 2020 for group experience:

6 characters - 2.56x

It really pays to run a 6 box at all times. Then use Overseer to obtain your Merc AA!

 

[Knightly]

BST also get an exp penalty because of their pet. Their pet is like a merc and it steals experience. It's treated as if you have a Player 2 playing the game with you.

This is not correct. The only time (at any point in the game) your pet can take any experience from you is if you do not (or your group does not) deal any damage at all to the mob. Once 1 damage has been done, this is moot and it was primarily to combat charm only groups.

 

[an_image]

They did a patch within the last year that reduces exp if running mercs in the group instead of live players -

Increased the experience bonus for having other players (not mercenaries) in your group.
- Increased the amount of AA experience you get in groups of 4 or more and raids of 13 or more.

Game Update Notes: March 11, 2020 | EverQuest Forums

March 11, 2020 _____________________ *** Highlights *** - Become the Overseer! Gain the loyalty of iconic Agents and protect Norrath from the...

forums.daybreakgames.com

And from Prathun in March 2020 for group experience:
Was:
1 characters - 1x
2 characters - 1.38x
3 characters - 1.68x
4 characters - 1.92x
5 characters - 2.16x
6 characters - 2.2x

Is now:
1 characters - 1x
2 characters - 1.58x
3 characters - 1.92x
4 characters - 2.22x
5 characters - 2.5x
6 characters - 2.56x

Updated group XP numbers? | EverQuest Forums

So, before the change, the xp modifiers worked like this: 2 Characters is 20% bonus (120% xp per kill, divided by 2 so you get 60% of what the mob would...

forums.daybreakgames.com

This is great info, thank you for sharing.

 

[an_image]

This is not correct. The only time (at any point in the game) your pet can take any experience from you is if you do not (or your group does not) deal any damage at all to the mob. Once 1 damage has been done, this is moot and it was primarily to combat charm only groups.

Hmm...i'd run some parses to check this out. I main box a bunch of pet classes, it goes significantly slower when using pets than without. Best example I can think of is enchanter w/ and w/o pet. When I run her without, same group, same kill velocity she levels up much faster.

 

[Knightly]

There are definitely other things that can impact experience. For example, when your enchanter is running without a pet, is she the puller?

But pets don't take experience as a group member. The very very easy way to test this is to level two low level characters side by side out of group and kill the same number of mobs. If there is a disparity you would see it. Add a merc to the first tester to see that the pet character levels faster.

 

[Stokes]

Well I'm pretty sure it was a thing at least at one point - being Luclin release, but alright, Np.

 

[Sic]

Well I'm pretty sure it was a thing at least at one point - being Luclin release, but alright, Np.

back in 1875 pet took more xp, but they changed this quite some time ago, as long as you do *something* (1 dmg) your pet doesn't chew up xp --- iirc this was so you can't just afk pet kill

I agree double checking your bst isn't sharing xp in your fellowship window

 

[Killertoxin]

I am in the process of leveling up another team of toons, SK, SHM,ENC,ROG,MNK,BST this isnt going to be a main team but to add swapability to my other toons. That said, What I tend to do is roll in EoK FM till 109 then hit up the Hero achievements from ToV. after that its a slow burn doing merc and part tasks. In addition if you run mac overseer on your toons you can net about 6-10% of a level per 24 hours and this is very valuable once you get to max level and have not worked on any aa's. I always turn off everything fellowship related and once.