Question - Old Man MacKenzie

[Sic]

I seem to remember from when I played on phini, there was a guildy from the guild I was in had a strat to easily 6 box the dragons, I’ll have to have a look to see if I can find it.

yeah you definitely can - i did 6box naggy (never had killed him before), and then had many very close pulls with vox (but if she gets in the wall she regens to full) and had positioning issues with her, so went with 12 toons instead. still took me several tries to get vox, even had a 0% full health reset

 

[fesler]

I seem to remember from when I played on phini, there was a guildy from the guild I was in had a strat to easily 6 box the dragons, I’ll have to have a look to see if I can find it.

Did you ever find that out? I've seen things that say pick a bunch of magicians but you can't do that anymore

 

[Sic]

Did you ever find that out? I've seen things that say pick a bunch of magicians but you can't do that anymore

you can i've been doing it for a week+

you can have 6 of each class, so can 6mage or 6 necro or 6 mage and 6 necro

I've been doing it with 12, makes it much faster

 

[fesler]

That is weird, when the window pops up for me it only lets me pick one magician, and then i can't pick another.

 

[Sic]

That is weird, when the window pops up for me it only lets me pick one magician, and then i can't pick another.

for the 3 group missions you can only have 1 of each class, for the 2 dragon missions you can have up to 6 of each class

 

[fesler]

I don't know what i am doing wrong, but when I get to choose my class for nagafen, it only lets me pick one of each.

 

[Sic]

I don't know what i am doing wrong, but when I get to choose my class for nagafen, it only lets me pick one of each.

that sounds like you are selecting the group missions and not the two raids

from : https://pakcafaneq.wordpress.com/old-man-mckenzie-raid/


Old Man McKenzie (Missions): The Monster Missions are a series of 3 quests that take place in old school zones; Ancient Heroes – Cursed Guk, Ancient Heroes – Lower Guk, and Ancient Heroes – Nagafen’s Lair.

For more information on the missions, Click HERE.

Old Man McKenzie (Raid): If your character is flagged, 2 Raids that are also available; Ancient Heroes – Lord Nagafen and Ancient Heroes – Lady Vox.

 

[fesler]

Derrrppppp. yeah that was it

 

[fesler]

Which mage items are you summoning on your cursor before you zone in?

 

[Sic]

Which mage items are you summoning on your cursor before you zone in?

none - is that a thing? can you walk in with a pet weapons thing on your cursor or something?

 

[fesler]

Yes that is what i was trying with the group missions. I'll double check on the raid.

 

[fesler]

yes you just have to have a mage summon it and keep it on your cursor before you zone in,
i'm mostly just pulling in armor for extra ac and hp's
the weapons can add 300 hp each but thats it

 

[fesler]

yes you just have to have a mage summon it and keep it on your cursor before you zone in,
i'm mostly just pulling in armor for extra ac and hp's
the weapons can add 300 hp each but thats it

Just a note it seems like you can only keep two things on the cursor and only the first time you zone in.

 

[fesler]

Does anyone have a video link or guide link on how to set the mages up for Nagafen and Vox, I failed about 4 times today? I think I am fundamentally missing something.

 

[Sic]

Does anyone have a video link or guide link on how to set the mages up for Nagafen and Vox, I failed about 4 times today? I think I am fundamentally missing something.

yeah I plan on doing a video for it probably next time i run them --- vox is still tricky cause if she touches the wall she resets - naggy is pretty easy

 

[Sungazer]

Did you ever find that out? I've seen things that say pick a bunch of magicians but you can't do that anymore

I looked for it but I couldn’t find the guide. As I recall though, there is a spot where if you position it just right you can kill without being feared or some such

 

[fesler]

Thanks for the responses. I look forward to the vid Sic.

 

[tecteacher]

Does MQ2Heals work with the heals on the clerics, or do you run KISS and set up special ini when attempting this?

 

[Eomund]

So, I am having a bit of an issue, where I have six lvl 60 toons with six lvl 115 toons and even split 3 and 3, it wont let me accept the task either for the raid or a group mission. Even tried it unbalanced to push the avg well north of 80. The six lvl 60s are all Free, while the six 115s are Gold. All these toons have 7+ flags. What am I missing, any ideas?

 

[Rooster]

I could be wrong, but most shared tasks have a level spread limit that is regardless of average.

15 I think is the max, usually if it is the reason when requesting and failing it tells you why ie not enough players or level or something

A way around it is to shroud the level 115 characters, then get the task (which ironically shrouds you again!?)

This was part of the way we used to be able to solo PoF/PoH TBM raids

 

[Eomund]

I could be wrong, but most shared tasks have a level spread limit that is regardless of average.

15 I think is the max, usually if it is the reason when requesting and failing it tells you why ie not enough players or level or something

A way around it is to shroud the level 115 characters, then get the task (which ironically shrouds you again!?)

This was part of the way we used to be able to solo PoF/PoH TBM raids

Hmmmm I bet you are right. I will try the shroud and see if it works. I am betting that its a two way street and blows the avg lvl......... guess those 60s get to see 81!

 

[Eomund]

For anyone else, the other group only needs to be LVL 85, able to get exp with the 115s, not within 15 levels so that was a time saver

 

[jb321]

Will be working on attempting this soon, there is a mac that does the raid? not tried so dunno how effective. On another note, the brigandine tunic still gets some use from the regular missions. Invis for WAR, PAL, BER, SHM, and a lot of others.

 

[Redfrog]

Will be working on attempting this soon, there is a mac that does the raid? not tried so dunno how effective. On another note, the brigandine tunic still gets some use from the regular missions. Invis for WAR, PAL, BER, SHM, and a lot of others.

Hi jb, the macro OMM Group/Raid Macro is pretty good, it WILL do the group missions automated if you setup with 6. It has a chance of still doing it with less than 6. TempusX and Levox did a nice job. The macro will NOT do the raids automated, it will help you get it accomplished though.

 

[Robban]

So I guess the 7 Raids will be a piece of cake, but the flagging to request them? If I havent done any raiding/progression in the past, which is the fastest to be able to request the 7 raids?

 

[Avian]

So I guess the 7 Raids will be a piece of cake, but the flagging to request them? If I havent done any raiding/progression in the past, which is the fastest to be able to request the 7 raids?

They may not be the fastest, but it's worth noting. Some of the raids that count also unlock RK3's that have never been upgraded and may be worth looking at while you're already doing it if you have any of the classes that matters to.

Twincast Rk3 is unlocked by Showdown at the Crystal Core
Twincast Aura Rk3 is unlocked by Jaled Dar's Sacrifice.

There was a thread on this quite some time ago (which I commented nearly identically what I just said, which is why I thought of it). The TLDR is both Crystallos and Korafax/citadel flagging is quite easy these days and a quick run-through of either will net you the 7 raids you need.

 

[Robban]

They may not be the fastest, but it's worth noting. Some of the raids that count also unlock RK3's that have never been upgraded and may be worth looking at while you're already doing it if you have any of the classes that matters to.

Twincast Rk3 is unlocked by Showdown at the Crystal Core
Twincast Aura Rk3 is unlocked by Jaled Dar's Sacrifice.

There was a thread on this quite some time ago (which I commented nearly identically what I just said, which is why I thought of it). The TLDR is both Crystallos and Korafax/citadel flagging is quite easy these days and a quick run-through of either will net you the 7 raids you need.

Soo, did the running collecting to get in to crystallos. Easy, fast. Now, to request crystallos raid I have to do the Meldrath raid? Zoned in to Mansion and that raid instance is sooo stupid with locked doors everywhere and I have to clear all events to get to Meldrath for the drop to be able to request Crystallos Raid? Am I missing something here?

 

[durango773]

Soo, did the running collecting to get in to crystallos. Easy, fast. Now, to request crystallos raid I have to do the Meldrath raid? Zoned in to Mansion and that raid instance is sooo stupid with locked doors everywhere and I have to clear all events to get to Meldrath for the drop to be able to request Crystallos Raid? Am I missing something here?

I unlock it for Crystallos all the time, 1 person can request, then they leave raid and you drag X amount through... granted only a 1 time thing, but its easy..

 

[Robban]

I unlock it for Crystallos all the time, 1 person can request, then they leave raid and you drag X amount through... granted only a 1 time thing, but its easy..

yeah... but I haven none who can do that, so that is why I am trying to get one keyed....

 

[Robban]

Finally got it done, was bugged first. Got my access at last

 

[Overtimer]

Finally got it done, was bugged first. Got my access at last

I am having major problems with the Docter (Brinda Sprockets) with the stupid passwords. I cannot for the life of me get past that event.

As of right now, I am stuck at that event. I even have every password on buttons, so I can speed up things, but the MEG will never accept them.

 

[Robban]

I am having major problems with the Docter (Brinda Sprockets) with the stupid passwords. I cannot for the life of me get past that event.

As of right now, I am stuck at that event. I even have every password on buttons, so I can speed up things, but the MEG will never accept them.

had the same problem, dont really know what I did to get it to work. Maybe I was to far away from the MEG sometime, maybe some mob hit me and I lost target of the MEG, really dont know. But suddenly it worked out.

Keep trying

 

[Grpsmashin]

Just as an FIO this was my old check list i used back when this stuff was live. Also posted on Alla, from my old notes. Not usre if it has updated since then or not. But give good reference for what you might need or to check off each for back progression!

Raid Expedition: Temple of Bertoxxulous
Blackburrow Raid: Stop the Ascension
Raid Expedition: Bloody Kithicor
Raid Expedition: A Council Divided
Raid Task: Claiming Felbane the Dragon Slayer
Raid Task: Field of Scale - Final Confrontation
Raid Task: Showdown at the Crystal Core
Rathe Council Chambers Event #1: The Brothers Zek
Raid Expedition: Rathe Council Chambers: Eriak's Downfall
Raid Expedition: Rathe Council Chambers: Rallos Returns (Korascian Warrens)
Raid Expedition: The Fall of Toskirakk
Korafax Event: Venom Lord Ksathrax
Korafax Event: Mindshear Avatar
Korafax Event: Pallorax the Soul Slayer
Discord Tower Event #1: Mindblight
Discord Tower Event #2: Trophy Room
Discord Tower Event #3: Stasis
Discord Tower Event #4: Scrying
Discord Tower Event #5: Sacrifice
Discord Tower Event #6: Overlord Muram
Discord Tower Event #7: Edge of Destruction
Solteris Event #1: Mayong's Mistresses
Solteris Event #2: Deadly Swarm
Solteris Event #3: Stalwart Defenders
Solteris Event #4: The Captured Portal
Solteris Event #5: Portal to Dreadspire
Solteris Event #6: The Final Portal
Solteris Event #7: Two Gods
Mansion Event: Battle Room
Mansion Event: Krond
Mansion Event: Brinda Sprockets
Mansion Event: Seneschal Bargangle Tinkerson
Mansion Event: Breakneck
Mansion Event: Meldrath the Malignant
Crystallos Event: Ice Constructs
Crystallos Event: Zeixshi`Kar
Crystallos Event: Aerius Windfury
Crystallos Event: Vyskudra
Crystallos Event: Keepers of Stone
Crystallos Event: Kildrukaun
Crystallos Event: Halls of Fire
Crystallos Event: Tjudawos
Crystallos Event: Brood Mother Visziaj
Crystallos Event: Kerafyrm the Awaken

 

[Overtimer]

had the same problem, dont really know what I did to get it to work. Maybe I was to far away from the MEG sometime, maybe some mob hit me and I lost target of the MEG, really dont know. But suddenly it worked out.

Keep trying

You help me a lot, I got real close to MEG, I jumped on top of the console, and that worked. I made over 30 hot buttons, for targeting the right corpses and looting the passwords and also buttons to say the right word.
What a pita this was, lol. But I am flagged now.
Thank you.

 

[Phalanx]

I'm working on this right now. I'm going the Tower of Discord route.

Zone to Korafax (PoK -> PoT -> Void -> Korafax)

The flags to request the raids are as follows:
A Disheveled Human - Loot everything so you can do the handins for the quests
1. Group Task: "Kill the Mindshear Attendants" - Kill 20 mindshear attendants - make sure to stock up on the slimes for later tasks
2. Group Task: "Kill the Corporifers" - Kill 8 of the Vulture mobs, make sure to loot an Essence sieve, bloodbind potion and empty Vials(can preloot for later task)
3. Group Task: "Free My Mind" - Will need to loot a bloody note to get first update, also Deliver A Discordling blood, Bloodbind potion and a Mindshear Slime to Disheveled Human. Blood are pre lootable
4. Group Task: "Find Telivar" - Follow your task arrow to the mindshear room south of entrance and Clear the Nw room. Once clear /Say Telivar to get the little guy to spawn
5. Solo Task: "You Pay the Price" - Telivar wants you to bring him a Blazing Rune blade(prelootable)
6. "Assist the Riftseekers" - Now take that Essence Sieve you looted and combine an empty flask, Anuek blood and 4 Mind shear slimes to make A Perilous Potion, Head to any of the portals in the outside loop of Discord clear the 2 Vulture slavers and hand potion to a Riftseeker to get final update. You are now flagged to request the Group missions.
Telivar
7. Mission: "Kill the Shearspawn" - Need to Kill 11 shearspawn, after 15mins or so in zone Seems to have a chance to pop several rares.
8. "Inside Information" - Find the Dragorn prisoner and free him, once freed you will need to escort him out. IE clear the path of the mobs so he doesn't die
9. "Meeting Adjorned" - Kill 4 named as they become active.
10. "Stardouser" - Go up to him and kill him. No need to do any of the portal BS.
Herald of Druzzil Ro - also at zone in area near human
11. Raid Expedition: Korafax, Home of the Riders - Kill Mindshear Avatar, Pallorax the Soul Slayer and Venom Lord Ksathrax. FYI these "count" towards the 7 raids needed, so just need 4 more.

I did the above in about 4 hours.

Tower of Discord Events
If you want more loot do the normal way not the hard.
1. Mindshear - kill the goos and mindshear a few times
2. Trophy Room - Kill the waves until the last boss. Then PAUSE all the plugins. Once Pixtt is at 99% he ports you out and you "win" the event. You can bug him if you accidentally kill him.
3. Stasis Room - Can't say I understood mechanics... open the chambers and kill the mobs. Now you get to kill Pixtt.
4. Scryer - Loot the torches. need to light the fires. Honestly not so MQ friendly. I looted all 4 and just switched from toon to toon. Have to do it quickly. 1 or 2 toons lighting isn't going to cut it.
5. Sacrifice - Easy kill the mobs. Some adds spawn.
6. Heh Couldn't beat Synarcana... Need fire and ice DD toons. I had melee. Will have to come back in the future. I heard you can HT or bring a bunch of DPS.
7. ?

OMM Naggy/Vox
I used the TempusX macro.
1. Naggy - pretty straightforward and easy. Just used pets. 6 mage and 6 necro.
2. Vox - big pain in the butt with her fear. Send in first 6 pets and wait for fear and then send in next 6 pets. This way some pets will always be coming back to attack either by being summoned by the caster or running back from the fear.

Got my stick! Thanks all.

 

[Sic]

I'm working on this right now. I'm going the Tower of Discord route.

Zone to Korafax (PoK -> PoT -> Void -> Korafax)

The flags to request the raids are as follows:
A Disheveled Human - Loot everything so you can do the handins for the quests
1. Group Task: "Kill the Mindshear Attendants" - Kill 20 mindshear attendants - make sure to stock up on the slimes for later tasks
2. Group Task: "Kill the Corporifers" - Kill 8 of the Vulture mobs, make sure to loot an Essence sieve, bloodbind potion and empty Vials(can preloot for later task)
3. Group Task: "Free My Mind" - Will need to loot a bloody note to get first update, also Deliver A Discordling blood, Bloodbind potion and a Mindshear Slime to Disheveled Human. Blood are pre lootable
4. Group Task: "Find Telivar" - Follow your task arrow to the mindshear room south of entrance and Clear the Nw room. Once clear /Say Telivar to get the little guy to spawn
5. Solo Task: "You Pay the Price" - Telivar wants you to bring him a Blazing Rune blade(prelootable)
6. "Assist the Riftseekers" - Now take that Essence Sieve you looted and combine an empty flask, Anuek blood and 4 Mind shear slimes to make A Perilous Potion, Head to any of the portals in the outside loop of Discord clear the 2 Vulture slavers and hand potion to a Riftseeker to get final update. You are now flagged to request the Group missions.
Telivar
7. Mission: "Kill the Shearspawn" - Need to Kill 11 shearspawn, after 15mins or so in zone Seems to have a chance to pop several rares.
8. "Inside Information" - Find the Dragorn prisoner and free him, once freed you will need to escort him out. IE clear the path of the mobs so he doesn't die
9. "Meeting Adjorned" - Kill 4 named as they become active.
10. "Stardouser" - Go up to him and kill him. No need to do any of the portal BS.
Herald of Druzzil Ro - also at zone in area near human
11. Raid Expedition: Korafax, Home of the Riders - Kill Mindshear Avatar, Pallorax the Soul Slayer and Venom Lord Ksathrax

I did the above in about 4 hours.

I'm going to do the discord raids tomorrow and will edit/update this post.

big tip for you.

you can not "just kill" the trophy room when the big swirlyboi named (Pixtt Curator of Discord) pops - you will *actually* kill it, and it will bug the event, preventing further progress.

you need to just pause all your toons and have someone like a cleric melee it down to 95 or 80 or w/e - otherwise, you won't be able to get past

 

[Overtimer]

Quick question, to get the raid version of omm, does everyone in the raid has to be flagged or just the guy that starts it?

 

[Sic]

Quick question, to get the raid version of omm, does everyone in the raid has to be flagged or just the guy that starts it?

it *might* be the ol 80% or w/e rule - but definitely more than *just* the starter

 

[Overtimer]

Thank you for the super fast answer, lol.

 

[Sic]

Thank you for the super fast answer, lol.

yw - I personally like doing the discord tower events in "Citadel of the Worldslayer" to get enough.

super tip: trophy room, event #2 in discord tower - when the big swirlyboi spawns, you can't have your dudes wtf-splode it - you have to like cleric melee it down to 95 or w/e --- if you *actually* kill it, the event will bug out and you'll be trapped in the room