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Problem - mage stops assisting MA

hightimes

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Version of KissAssist.mac?
11.001
When did your problem start?
after last patch of eq
Character Role?
  1. Assist
What class is having this issue?
  1. Magician
How often does this issue occur?
Often
Can you reproduce the issue?
if i pull in the above stated way, the problem will happen
hotkey says:

i have /tar (warrior's name)
/mac kissassist

Ever since the last EQ patch, i have had issues with my mage not continuing to assist my warrior. No problems until this last patch. If i change it to assist my bard, no issues, however that is not optimal since the bard changes targets to mez.. i need it to work again for the warrior. my monk is pulling and it acts as if it is assisting her because if i pull with mez, and change targets, my mage will use the target i first targeted for the mez instead of switching to what the warrior is now targeted on. i dont undertand and its getting rather frustrating. I have been using the same setup for months and this is the first time this has begun to happen. any help would be appreciated, thanks a lot
 
Have you made any changes to your ini file lately?

I had something like that happen on one of my mage bots.
I moved my ini file to a different folder and made a new one.

The new one worked fine after that.
 
Have you made any changes to your ini file lately?

I had something like that happen on one of my mage bots.
I moved my ini file to a different folder and made a new one.

The new one worked fine after that.

do not think so, shes stayed the same since its my usual main, i set her up initially and do not think i have done anything different since i set her up
 
another thing that started with eq's last patch was MQ2.cast keeps getting unloaded. as soon as i hit my assist key, it will say unloaded. i load it but it automatically keeps unloading. i dont get it. so my pet won't attack and she stops casting shortly after it is loaded. i understand someone said that kissassist doesnt require mq2cast to run, however, something is wrong. here is my file. again, i can recreate this when my monk pulls, changes targets after a mez, and brings the mob into camp. she also wont attack when there are 2 or more mobs in camp. she wont send her pet and she wont cast. please help.

[General]
KissAssistVer=11.001
Role=Assist
CampRadius=20
CampRadiusExceed=100
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=5
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=1
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=0
GroupWatchOn=0
CastingInterruptOn=0
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=11
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Magician|110|GOLD
CastingInterruptOn=0
DPSMeter=0
MiscGemRemem=1
ScatterOn=1
MiscGemLW=0
ConditionsOn=2
DefaultUI=TRUE
XTSlot=1

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
BuffsSize=10
Buffs1=Elemental Conversion|mana|85
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=Wand of Burning Modulation|Summon|Wand of Arcronite Modulation|1
Buffs4=Summon Modulation Shard|Summon|Summoned: Glowing Modulation Shard|1
Buffs5=Wand of Arcronite Modulation|mana|80|50
Buffs6=Summoned: Glowing Modulation Shard|mana|85
Buffs7=Shield Of Order|Me
Buffs8=Circle of the Inferno
Buffs9=Burning Guardian|me
Buffs10=Shield of scales|me
BuffsCOn=1
BuffsCond1=TRUE
BuffsCond2=TRUE
BuffsCond3=${FindItemCount[Wand of Arcronite Modulation]}<1
BuffsCond4=${FindItemCount[Glowing Modulation Shard]}<1
BuffsCond5=TRUE
BuffsCond6=TRUE
BuffsCond7=TRUE
BuffsCond8=TRUE
BuffsCond9=TRUE
BuffsCond10=TRUE
Buffs11=NULL
BuffsCond11=TRUE
Buffs12=NULL
BuffsCond12=TRUE
Buffs13=NULL
BuffsCond13=TRUE
Buffs14=NULL
BuffsCond14=TRUE
Buffs15=NULL
BuffsCond15=TRUE
Buffs16=NULL
BuffsCond16=TRUE
Buffs17=NULL
BuffsCond17=TRUE
Buffs18=NULL
BuffsCond18=TRUE
Buffs19=NULL
BuffsCond19=TRUE
Buffs20=NULL
BuffsCond20=TRUE

[Melee]
AssistAt=99
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=0
MeleeDistance=100
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=0

[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1null
GoMSpell2=null
GoMSpell3=null
GoMSize=3
GoMCOn=0
GoMCond1=TRUE
GoMCond2=TRUE
GoMCond3=TRUE
GoMSpell1=NULL

[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
AESize=10
AECOn=0
AECond1=FALSE
AECond2=FALSE
AECond3=FALSE
AECond4=FALSE
AECond5=FALSE
AECond6=FALSE
AECond7=FALSE
AECond8=FALSE
AECond9=FALSE
AECond10=FALSE

[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=1
DPSInterval=8
DPS1=Malaise|99|debuffall|malo|once
DPS2=Reckless Servant|98|
DPS3=Force of Elements|97|
DPS4=Chaotic Inferno|95|
DPS5=Spear of Molten Arcronite|89
DPS6=Volley of Many|98|
DPS7=Firebound Orb III|98
DPS8=Eradicate Magic|96|Mob|Once
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DebuffAllOn=2
DPSSize=8
DPSCOn=0
DPSCond1=TRUE
DPSCond2=TRUE
DPSCond3=TRUE
DPSCond4=TRUE
DPSCond5=TRUE
DPSCond6=TRUE
DPSCond7=TRUE
DPSCond8=TRUE

[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Renewal of Ioulin|75|Pet
Heals2=Mend Companion|35|Pet
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=Second Wind Ward|45|Pet
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=Aegis of Zeklor|70|Pet
Heals9=Companion's Aegis|95|Pet
XTarHeal=0
HealGroupPetsOn=0
XTarHeal2=0
HealsSize=9
HealsCOn=0
XTarHealList=NULL
HealsCond1=TRUE
HealsCond2=TRUE
HealsCond3=TRUE
HealsCond4=TRUE
HealsCond5=TRUE
HealsCond6=TRUE
HealsCond7=TRUE
HealsCond8=TRUE
HealsCond9=TRUE

[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures=NULL
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
CuresSize=5

[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Embodiment of Air
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=NULL
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=arcane distillect|aura
PetBuffs2=Burnout XIII
PetBuffs3=Maloseniac Eminence
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetToysOn=0
PetToys1=Grant Wirn's Armaments|Summoned: Gorstruck Fireblade|Summoned: Gorstruck Fireblade
PetToys2=NULL
PetToys3=NULL
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToysGave=NULL
PetBreakMezSpell=Reckless Servant
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
PetCombatOn=1
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=1
PetForceHealOnMed=0
PetBuffsSize=8
PetToysSize=6
PetAssistAt=98
PetAttackDistance=115

[Burn]
BurnCOn=0
BurnSize=15
BurnText=Named
BurnAllNamed=1
Burn1=Improved Twincast|Mob)
Burn2=Fundament: First Spire of the elements|Mob)
Burn3=Companion's Fortification|pet)
Burn4=Frenzied Burnout|pet)
Burn5=Scaleborn Flameweaver Robe|Pet)
Burn6=Host of the Elements|Mob)
Burn7=null
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=Focus of Arcanum|Mob)
Burn10=Elemental Union|Mob)
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=Heart of Flames|Mob)
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=Servant of Ro|Mob)
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0

[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=0
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0

[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=1
MercAssistAt=97

[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
AggroSize=5
AggroCond1=FALSE
AggroCond2=FALSE
AggroCond3=FALSE
AggroCond4=FALSE
AggroCond5=FALSE

[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=2
SpellSetName=KissAssist

[Pull]
PullWith=Pet
MaxRadius=500
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=2
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=1
ChainPullHP=50
ChainPullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullMeleeStick=0
UseWayPointZ=0
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullPause=30|2
PullArcWidth=0

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup
GMailOn=0
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
GMailSize=5

[MySpells]
Gem1=Reckless Servant
Gem2=Volley of Many
Gem3=Chaotic Inferno
Gem4=Spear of Molten Arcronite
Gem5=Burnout XIII
Gem6=Maloseniac Eminence
Gem7=Renewal of Ioulin
Gem8=Twincast
Gem9=Summon firebound orb
Gem10=Aegis of zeklor
Gem11=Arcane distillect
Gem12=call of the heroes
Gem13=shield of order

[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=02/12/2019 03:27:27
ErrorMsg:=NULL
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=202430988
BuildDate:=20190209
CurrentUI:=default
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
 
Last edited:
Do you by chance when this stop assisting happens have another cleric in another group nearby?

no, i am alone in the zone atm. i did change her macro that i hit to start her to:
/tar (warrior's name)
/mac kissassist 98

saw that in the guide and thought that would help. also, changed her xtar tab to tank's target. it worked once, so we will see when i change targets or pull 2 again. thank you for your response.

nope, not working. if my monk has something targeted other than what comes in camp, the mage will not attack anything.
 
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My first suggestion would be to rename your .ini file so you have a copy to refer to. Run kissassist to create a new .ini file, then update the new ini file and see what happens.

she has the mob getting killed in her xtar but keeps the mob mezzed by the monk at the spawn location in her actual target window and does nothing. even after i created the new file. i dont understand because everything was working fine and one day it wasnt. thank you for your response
 
That is because when she assisted the MA. The mob that is still mezzed was the target of the MA at the time your mage /assisted. Are you running MQ2EQBC? Kiss functions much better with EQBC.
 
That is because when she assisted the MA. The mob that is still mezzed was the target of the MA at the time your mage /assisted. Are you running MQ2EQBC? Kiss functions much better with EQBC.

i am not sure which i am running but this has never been a problem up until a few weeks ago and i have had it about 5 months. my bard and other chars work well though. how do i tell which i have and how do i fix it please?
 
Well, we added in some code to help with the issue you are having. The tank sends a broadcast through EQBC just before attacking the mob. We added code for anyone connected to the EQBC server to listen for this message and pickup the mob ID in the message. This helps all others characters pick up/change to the correct target.

Setting up EQBC is not that hard.

EQBC Information

There is a change to the code that you can make to probably fix the issue you are having. The problem is your mage is looping through the combat routine waiting for her target's HP to go below AssistAt, and it never will.
 
Well, we added in some code to help with the issue you are having. The tank sends a broadcast through EQBC just before attacking the mob. We added code for anyone connected to the EQBC server to listen for this message and pickup the mob ID in the message. This helps all others characters pick up/change to the correct target.

Setting up EQBC is not that hard.

EQBC Information

There is a change to the code that you can make to probably fix the issue you are having. The problem is your mage is looping through the combat routine waiting for her target's HP to go below AssistAt, and it never will.

im trying to be patient here and i just glanced over that and it makes no sense to me. i pay to have this program work as i have spent months setting up and now i have to change it? and i saw a guy broadcasting this to general chat the other day and i am not about to do that with something new. i want my kissassist to work again the way it has for 4 months.
 
After working with @hightimes for weeks on this problem, we finally tracked down the issue. It was not just 1 issue, but turned out to be from 2 main problems.

First, pulling with a monk and using the monk's mez ability, will add all targets the mez lands on, to the XTarget window. Second, the mob that the MA first targets MAY NOT be the mob the monk pulls to camp.

This in itself is not a problem, but if the mob is NOT in LOS from the Character, then it is a problem.

I ended up adding in a call to the CombatTargetCheck routine, like is done in the combat routine. So the character will switch targets to the MA's current target if needed. This change will be included with the next update to KISS.
 
Problem - mage stops assisting MA

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