Problem - kissassist help please

[Monkeyman618]

looking for help with getting KS to time the casting correctly its not following the Ini till half way at 54% health and wanting it to engage with what i have on the ini

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.002
Role=Assist
CampRadius=50
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=95
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Cleric|115|SILVER
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
LOSBeforeCombat=0
XTSlot=2
[SpellS]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=1
CheckStuckGem=1
Gem1=Unified Righteousness
Gem2=Pious Light
Gem3=Promised Remedy
Gem4=Aura of the Pious
Gem5=NULL
Gem6=Circle of Divinity
Gem7=NULL
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Petrifying Earth
Gem10=Mark of Wenglawks
Gem11=Syllable of Mending
Gem12=Armor of the Merciful
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Protection of vie|MA
Buffs2=Unified Hand of Assurance|MA
Buffs3=Unified Righteousness|MA
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=1
PowerSource=NULL
[Melee]
AssistAt=98
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=1
PetTauntOverride=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=0
DPSInterval=0
DPS1=Mark of Wenglawks|98
DPS2=Petrifying Earth|90
DPS3=nnnBlood of the Unsullied|80
DPS4=nnnPetrifying Earth|10
DPS5=nnnPetrifying Earth|90
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealInterval=0
AutoRezOn=Blessing of Ressurrection
HealsSize=3
Heals1=Devout Light|75
Heals2=Merciful Elixir|50
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|25
Heals4=null
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=7
XTarHealList=1|2|3|4|5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=1
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
BurnSize=15
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Blood of the Unsullied
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=5
Cond1=TRUE
Cond2=TRUE
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE

 

[durango773]

train wreck...

So you do cleric, assuming heal to late? your giving an exact %, bet thats what the heal lands at, since starting heal is 75%?

please give the most info you can.

 

[Yannafuntime]

I'm not a 100% sure what your looking for either, so we need a break down of what you want to happen then we can point ya at what needs to go into the .ini so it will happen.
While we puzzle this out, I'd take some time and pour over the Wiki.

KissAssist - Read📖Guides

www.redguides.com

and to cover your issue more specifically.

https://www.redguides.com/docs/projects/kissassist#heals-settings

((Heal settings))

 

[Psy]

DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=0
DPSInterval=0
DPS1=Mark of Wenglawks|98
DPS2=Petrifying Earth|90
DPS3=nnnBlood of the Unsullied|80
DPS4=nnnPetrifying Earth|10
DPS5=nnnPetrifying Earth|90

Start with

DPSon=2
DPSInterval=20
Drop the nnn from DPS3 and change 4 and 5 to DPS4/5=NULL as you do not need the nnn here or to duplicate dps 3 two more times.

EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0

How are you communicating to the toon? One or both should be 1, not zero

 

[Sic]

you should use dpson=2 and not dpson=1

3 of your dps entries (2 are duplicates) have extra "nnn" in them rendering them unused.

I would suggest turning off usemq2melee, should probably consider turning on melee if you want to be meleeing

 

[Dragonslayer]

"MedStart=95" is very unusual. This value will cause to start med as soon as mana is below 95%.
My chars have a value of 20 or even less.
With a value of 95 the cleric will start the med-routine after almost any fight.
If puller doesn't have "GroupWatchOn" and "Group Watch Check" set right, he's going to pull more mobs while cleric is in med-routine.

"Heals2=Merciful Elixir|50" I would change to "Heals2=Merciful Elixir|99|once".
Starting a heal over time at 50% health of the tank may be counterproductive, because next direct heal may land too late.

Most priests tend to use the 3 fastest heals once tank is below 95%, which means the fastest from the actual expansion, the fastest from the last expansion and the fastest from the former expansion. Doing so, you will circumvent the long recast-time of the fast-heals and fire fast-heals back to back, if needed.

For Clerics those are the Spells ending with "Remedy" if I remember well

So your first 3 Heals might be
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|once
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99

If "Sincere Remedy" is on cooldown because it was used recent, the second best fast-heal "Merciful Remedy" is cast, when a char is below 99%.

Instead of the tag "once" you may want to use the flag "ambush" like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush

This should get the cleric to cast the heal over time, while mob is approaching without waiting for the tank to get the first damage.


Some may would like to focus on tank and split the heals between tank and others like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99|MA
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99|MA
Heals4=Sincere Remedy|60|!MA
Heals5=Merciful Remedy|60|!MA

in this case, the MA gets heals immediately as soon as he gets damage, while others in group will get fast-heals only if they drop below 60%

 

[Monkeyman618]

"MedStart=95" is very unusual. This value will cause to start med as soon as mana is below 95%.
My chars have a value of 20 or even less.
With a value of 95 the cleric will start the med-routine after almost any fight.
If puller doesn't have "GroupWatchOn" and "Group Watch Check" set right, he's going to pull more mobs while cleric is in med-routine.

"Heals2=Merciful Elixir|50" I would change to "Heals2=Merciful Elixir|99|once".
Starting a heal over time at 50% health of the tank may be counterproductive, because next direct heal may land too late.

Most priests tend to use the 3 fastest heals once tank is below 95%, which means the fastest from the actual expansion, the fastest from the last expansion and the fastest from the former expansion. Doing so, you will circumvent the long recast-time of the fast-heals and fire fast-heals back to back, if needed.

For Clerics those are the Spells ending with "Remedy" if I remember well

So your first 3 Heals might be
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|once
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99

If "Sincere Remedy" is on cooldown because it was used recent, the second best fast-heal "Merciful Remedy" is cast, when a char is below 99%.

Instead of the tag "once" you may want to use the flag "ambush" like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush

This should get the cleric to cast the heal over time, while mob is approaching without waiting for the tank to get the first damage.


Some may would like to focus on tank and split the heals between tank and others like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99|MA
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99|MA
Heals4=Sincere Remedy|60|!MA
Heals5=Merciful Remedy|60|!MA

in this case, the MA gets heals immediately as soon as he gets damage, while others in group will get fast-heals only if they drop below 60%

awesome thank you for this info used it all and do apologize im still trying to figure out where to put stuff in the site here keep getting talk to about it and not reported or something?

 

[Dragonslayer]

I learned what's possible by reading others INI and try to understand what would each line do.
The lines I understood and found they fit my playstyle, I copied into my INI.
A sample for a complex INI would be SIC's cleric lvl 115

 

[Monkeyman618]

"MedStart=95" is very unusual. This value will cause to start med as soon as mana is below 95%.
My chars have a value of 20 or even less.
With a value of 95 the cleric will start the med-routine after almost any fight.
If puller doesn't have "GroupWatchOn" and "Group Watch Check" set right, he's going to pull more mobs while cleric is in med-routine.

"Heals2=Merciful Elixir|50" I would change to "Heals2=Merciful Elixir|99|once".
Starting a heal over time at 50% health of the tank may be counterproductive, because next direct heal may land too late.

Most priests tend to use the 3 fastest heals once tank is below 95%, which means the fastest from the actual expansion, the fastest from the last expansion and the fastest from the former expansion. Doing so, you will circumvent the long recast-time of the fast-heals and fire fast-heals back to back, if needed.

For Clerics those are the Spells ending with "Remedy" if I remember well

So your first 3 Heals might be
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|once
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99

If "Sincere Remedy" is on cooldown because it was used recent, the second best fast-heal "Merciful Remedy" is cast, when a char is below 99%.

Instead of the tag "once" you may want to use the flag "ambush" like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush

This should get the cleric to cast the heal over time, while mob is approaching without waiting for the tank to get the first damage.


Some may would like to focus on tank and split the heals between tank and others like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99|MA
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99|MA
Heals4=Sincere Remedy|60|!MA
Heals5=Merciful Remedy|60|!MA

in this case, the MA gets heals immediately as soon as he gets damage, while others in group will get fast-heals only if they drop below 60%

um it still casting Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|once every other second

 

[Dragonslayer]

Try "ambush" instead of "once"

 

[Monkeyman618]

"MedStart=95" is very unusual. This value will cause to start med as soon as mana is below 95%.
My chars have a value of 20 or even less.
With a value of 95 the cleric will start the med-routine after almost any fight.
If puller doesn't have "GroupWatchOn" and "Group Watch Check" set right, he's going to pull more mobs while cleric is in med-routine.

"Heals2=Merciful Elixir|50" I would change to "Heals2=Merciful Elixir|99|once".
Starting a heal over time at 50% health of the tank may be counterproductive, because next direct heal may land too late.

Most priests tend to use the 3 fastest heals once tank is below 95%, which means the fastest from the actual expansion, the fastest from the last expansion and the fastest from the former expansion. Doing so, you will circumvent the long recast-time of the fast-heals and fire fast-heals back to back, if needed.

For Clerics those are the Spells ending with "Remedy" if I remember well

So your first 3 Heals might be
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|once
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99

If "Sincere Remedy" is on cooldown because it was used recent, the second best fast-heal "Merciful Remedy" is cast, when a char is below 99%.

Instead of the tag "once" you may want to use the flag "ambush" like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush

This should get the cleric to cast the heal over time, while mob is approaching without waiting for the tank to get the first damage.


Some may would like to focus on tank and split the heals between tank and others like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99|MA
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99|MA
Heals4=Sincere Remedy|60|!MA
Heals5=Merciful Remedy|60|!MA

in this case, the MA gets heals immediately as soon as he gets damage, while others in group will get fast-heals only if they drop below 60%

its also trying to heal npc Mobs as well for some reason

 

[Motojeff]

its also trying to heal npc Mobs as well for some reason

You got your Xtar stuff set up funny in the heal section. Xtarheal should be a 0/1/2. you have a 7, then you have your xtar heal list as your first 7 extended targets. I would suspect you don't have your toons set in all 7 xtarget slots and so it heals NPCs that show up in one of your empty xtar slots. see here: Xtar set up kiss wiki link

 

[hackzimus]

its also trying to heal npc Mobs as well for some reason

This could be your XTarHeal setting being a 7. This is a 1 or 0 toggle and if its set at 1 you set which slots on the Xtarget menu they want to heal which you have 1 through 7 so if any mobs are in those slots it will try to heal them. I've noticed it won't go through with the heal but it does try to spam it.

 

[Naturesong]

"MedStart=95" is very unusual. This value will cause to start med as soon as mana is below 95%.
My chars have a value of 20 or even less.
With a value of 95 the cleric will start the med-routine after almost any fight.
If puller doesn't have "GroupWatchOn" and "Group Watch Check" set right, he's going to pull more mobs while cleric is in med-routine.

"Heals2=Merciful Elixir|50" I would change to "Heals2=Merciful Elixir|99|once".
Starting a heal over time at 50% health of the tank may be counterproductive, because next direct heal may land too late.

Most priests tend to use the 3 fastest heals once tank is below 95%, which means the fastest from the actual expansion, the fastest from the last expansion and the fastest from the former expansion. Doing so, you will circumvent the long recast-time of the fast-heals and fire fast-heals back to back, if needed.

For Clerics those are the Spells ending with "Remedy" if I remember well

So your first 3 Heals might be
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|once
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99

If "Sincere Remedy" is on cooldown because it was used recent, the second best fast-heal "Merciful Remedy" is cast, when a char is below 99%.

Instead of the tag "once" you may want to use the flag "ambush" like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush

This should get the cleric to cast the heal over time, while mob is approaching without waiting for the tank to get the first damage.


Some may would like to focus on tank and split the heals between tank and others like:
Heals1=Merciful Elixir|99|MA|ambush
Heals2=Sincere Remedy|99|MA
Heals3=Merciful Remedy|99|MA
Heals4=Sincere Remedy|60|!MA
Heals5=Merciful Remedy|60|!MA

in this case, the MA gets heals immediately as soon as he gets damage, while others in group will get fast-heals only if they drop below 60%

I turn MedOn to 0 on my cleric. Set yaulp in buffs and dps sections to refresh on fade instead.

 

[ctaylor22]

Turn off XTarHeal and see how it works.