Question - How do i earn enough plat to keep a full group krono'd?

[tomahawkeer]

My crew is slowly inching towards the 115 mark. I should be able to have them all leveled to 115 and pretty close to max AA before my Krono time expires.

My question is, how can you maintain a group with kronos bought with plat in game? For me in FV, that would mean I would need to earn about 60 million plat per month to pay for all access. Thats a ton of plat to support a full box crew. Those that are succesfully doing this, are you farming gear, gems, plat etc with more than just 1 group? I would just like to be able to maintain a single group with in game plat and curious as people are able to maintain that.

 

[durango773]

You have to be in "business". Either collecting and selling rare items (old time drops), selling the TS package for the augment, running missions for TA's, raiding and selling the drops (with 6, would need a friend or 3), selling flat out PL's.

 

[tomahawkeer]

You have to be in "business". Either collecting and selling rare items (old time drops), selling the TS package for the augment, running missions for TA's, raiding and selling the drops (with 6, would need a friend or 3), selling flat out PL's.

What are TA's? Task Adds?

 

[an_image]

My crew is slowly inching towards the 115 mark. I should be able to have them all leveled to 115 and pretty close to max AA before my Krono time expires.

My question is, how can you maintain a group with kronos bought with plat in game? For me in FV, that would mean I would need to earn about 60 million plat per month to pay for all access. Thats a ton of plat to support a full box crew. Those that are succesfully doing this, are you farming gear, gems, plat etc with more than just 1 group? I would just like to be able to maintain a single group with in game plat and curious as people are able to maintain that.

@tomahawkeer your only sub should be your tank (if you want, i personally don't sub anything unless i'm maxing aa's) if you choose to keep them in prestige gear, everyone else should be in non-prestige and go ftp once max lvl/full aa

 

[tomahawkeer]

@tomahawkeer your only sub should be your tank (if you want, i personally don't sub anything unless i'm maxing aa's) if you choose to keep them in prestige gear, everyone else should be in non-prestige and go ftp once max lvl/full aa

yeah I hear a lot of this too. I krono'd my boxes, but my tank is currently all access every 3 months. Im just trying to understand how people can maintain 6 or 12 and more accounts all access. That gets really expensive quick espically when you start adding in costs of expansions.

 

[eqsubi15]

yeah I hear a lot of this too. I krono'd my boxes, but my tank is currently all access every 3 months. Im just trying to understand how people can maintain 6 or 12 and more accounts all access. That gets really expensive quick espically when you start adding in costs of expansions.

I justify sub'ing 6 accounts because it's still a cheaper hobby than going out to the bars

 

[an_image]

yeah I hear a lot of this too. I krono'd my boxes, but my tank is currently all access every 3 months. Im just trying to understand how people can maintain 6 or 12 and more accounts all access. That gets really expensive quick espically when you start adding in costs of expansions.

@tomahawkeer You farm for plat, gems, ultra-rares and sell it all. Not that complicated. /barter is pretty good too, do a /barter open search and reverse the value filter so you can figure out what's selling high find a camp where that drops...and go nuts....if you do it right can generate pretty good cash flow.

My advice, keep your farm bots separate from your mains and don't fall in love with farm bots or alts. I wish I could take my own advice there but the completionist in me takes over sometimes...so i end up having too many mains...

Last avenues are the bot route...pwlvl for plat OR...play the bazaar game...those are higher visibility tough...so recommend that as a last resort

 

[tomahawkeer]

I justify sub'ing 6 accounts because it's still a cheaper hobby than going out to the bars

I can see that for sure! It's probably been 30 years since I was interested in frequenting a bar. I'm too old for that sh*t now.

 

[hackzimus]

It'll be tough to get specific strats out of most of us since we need to protect our market share so to speak. Durango and Image pretty much nail it in the most specific terms you'll get.

I'll add (since this is level 2), if you play on a normal live server you can set up 4-5 roaming bots in different zones and cash them out every few hours. TS items and rare drops aside ill usually pull in 20-40k per toon per hour in vendor trash. Last I checked some live servers sold krono for 4-5 mill...

5 toons average 30k/hr each , if you set them up for 4 hours a day thats probably in the realm of 500k raw plat per night. Do that 5 nights a week and you got 2.5 million pp a week roughly 10mil per month (about 2 krono)

You will also get a lot of tradeskill components doing this and they can sell very nicely. One week on one of my bots he sold the tradeskill items for another 3 mil pp (this was on FV though, so maybe lets say 1.5 mil on a regular server)

The other bots don't usually make that much from their tradeskill items but between the other 4 theyd make another million combined per week on bazaar/barter (on live non-FV). So now I've got another 10 mil per month coming in for a total of 20mill (4-5 kronos almost passively)

Now if you have your main group out grinding in spots that drop attuneable gear to sell for players, especially those that are FTP, the ToV/CoV gear for 110 and ToL gear for 115 sell very nicely for people levelling boxes and you could make the extra 1-2 kronos per month easily just from this.

Keep in mind though, it has taken me most of the year to find my spots and get the system down.

To take this even deeper. I've found servers where kronos are cheaper, started a group there specifically designed to be able to PL other chars. I've PL'd, AA'd and geared bots to do vendor trash farming on these servers since the amount of raw plat made won't change based on your server. Since kronos can be transferred cross servers its increased the amount of krono I make per time spent running the bots. Just be careful not to overbuy to fast on these servers as the price is usually based on a lower population and there fore lower demand. If you upset that dynamic, the price could increase quite a bit as others get desperate to buy and there is no supply to draw from.

 

[melgaroth]

The easiest time I have had getting pure Krono's was during TLP launches. This requires a lot of pure time investment so it is not for anyone with a full time job. I was unemployed during COVID right around the Aradune launch and I made quite a bit just three boxing a necro team and farming rare drops to sell.

 

[Yannafuntime]

So Tomahawkeer, as you can see from some of these posts it's doable (at least in theory)... But, IMO this is turning EQ into a super low paying job.
Some people enjoy that challenge, and others still manage to scale the operation up till they can pull some cash out of it.
But, is that what you want to do?
I get the feeling from your post you are mostly interested in offsetting the cost of running six toons. If that's the case, perhaps moving over to the Test server would better serve. They get Free gold accounts and for the most part they are a pretty swell community.

 

[an_image]

So Tomahawkeer, as you can see from some of these posts it's doable (at least in theory)... But, IMO this is turning EQ into a super low paying job.
Some people enjoy that challenge, and others still manage to scale the operation up till they can pull some cash out of it.
But, is that what you want to do?
I get the feeling from your post you are mostly interested in offsetting the cost of running six toons. If that's the case, perhaps moving over to the Test server would better serve. They get Free gold accounts and for the most part they are a pretty swell community.

@Yannafuntime 100% agree. Most important thing I realized is ... the frigging kronos and plat shouldn't be a scoring mechanism...spend that stuff. I used to hoard both trying to get the largest amount and after some chatting with the people who do it for a living I realized...hey it's not a job...it's a means to enjoy my gaming...

With that thoughts...eventually what you want all that Krono and plat for is to enjoy and play the game...so don't turn it into a job. Also, don't fuck up other's people's living...there are actual people who do this for a living. While it may be fun (as an example) for me to set all the prices in bazaar down to nothing...because I can...that is ruining other's people gaming experience and livelihood. Those people have families, kids, bills, and dreams and it's good to respect that.

Once you get deep enough and big enough...you'll see this in /barter. There are certain "silent" understanding between /barter (suppliers) and /traders (sellers). Try not to play both sides....either sell to /barter or sell in /bazaar. Buy what you sell (match your top buyer)...which is essential to keep pricing fair. One example:

Intricate or Elaborate Binding Powder. Rare item...people want to /barter to buy and /trader to sell it....don't go farm 10k...flood your buyer /barter (with 10k) then set up a /trader to undercut them...if you think about it...you're only fucking yourself there...because that will crater /barter pricing. After a while you'll form a relationship and realize pricing for /barter will ebb and flow with their sales....so keep farming and when the price is right....fill them up....and move on.

Simple enough right...bottom line is don't get too greedy. People that make a living will figure out who you are, what you're doing, and if you're friendly enough will become your friends and trading partners...even silently. Hope that helps get you in the right mindframe @tomahawkeer

 

[tomahawkeer]

@Yannafuntime 100% agree. Most important thing I realized is ... the frigging kronos and plat shouldn't be a scoring mechanism...spend that stuff. I used to hoard both trying to get the largest amount and after some chatting with the people who do it for a living I realized...hey it's not a job...it's a means to enjoy my gaming...

With that thoughts...eventually what you want all that Krono and plat for is to enjoy and play the game...so don't turn it into a job. Also, don't fuck up other's people's living...there are actual people who do this for a living. While it may be fun (as an example) for me to set all the prices in bazaar down to nothing...because I can...that is ruining other's people gaming experience and livelihood. Those people have families, kids, bills, and dreams and it's good to respect that.

Once you get deep enough and big enough...you'll see this in /barter. There are certain "silent" understanding between /barter (suppliers) and /traders (sellers). Try not to play both sides....either sell to /barter or sell in /bazaar. Buy what you sell...and keep pricing fair. One example

Intricate or Elaborate Binding Powder. Rare item...people want to /barter to buy and /trader to sell it....don't go farm 10k...flood your buyer /barter (with 10k) then set up a /trader to undercut them...if you think about it...you're only fucking yourself there...because that will crater /barter pricing. After a while you'll form a relationship and realize pricing for /barter will ebb and flow with their sales....so keep farming and when the price is right....fill them up....and move on.

Simple enough right...bottom line is don't get too greedy. People that make a living will figure out who you are, what you're doing, and if you're friendly enough will become your friends and trading partners...even silently. Hope that helps get you in the right mindframe @tomahawkeer

It is unfortunate that this is an issue. I honestly just want to enjoy the game, and figured if I could make enough to support the EQ habit thats all I would need. Im definitely not about messing with someone else's gaming experience, or livelihood. I have actually spent some significant time on Test, and if it wasn't for the lack of free trade there, I would probably still be there. The XP experience there is awesome, as well as the quite zones to basically do what you want in any zone without messing anybody else up. I absolutely have no thoughts or ideas of trying to profit from the game, or mess up someone else's ability to earn an income. I think at this point, im probably gonna just focus on my main, and non-prestige my others because earning enough in game to pay a sub for toons just seems crazy, at least for me.

 

[dewey2461]

I personally think you are better off getting a part time job you can work 2-3 hours a month.

When you start to view earning plat and selling items as a way to support your EQ game play it turns into a job. The more Krono you need a month the more of a job it becomes.

There was a time ~ 15 years ago now where I went down that route and it was "fun" for about a year. Made a little extra "play" money and ended up paying myself about $1/hr.

Fast forward 15 years and you have a lot more people using MQ out in the open and lots of them just want to farm a little plat to pay for their habit.

There are also the people who have gone all in and are running bot farms across multiple servers running 24/7 and advertising across servers. Selling plat, leveling, raid gear, etc.

Bottom line. You are competing in a saturated market. If you value your time $60/month is pretty cheap.

 

[Redmonkey]

Not sure what is allowed and what is not. So going to mention that since the forums are a big place you may not have seen all the forum categories. Further down is one called "The bazaar at EC Tunnel" I have no personal experience with this but I do often go there and look around.

Just something you may want to check out.

 

[jmaez]

I'm with the rest here just max AA on everyone and keep your tank and your main subbed (if its not the tank). At 115 you can get waxing visibles cheap and 6-7k HP non-visible items (all non prestige) just farming and doing COV group missions for type 7 and 5 augs for the tank. With the group you should be able to make enough plat for 1-2 krono a month just farming and selling duplicate items.

 

[dezeran]

Not sure what is allowed and what is not. So going to mention that since the forums are a big place you may not have seen all the forum categories. Further down is one called "The bazaar at EC Tunnel" I have no personal experience with this but I do often go there and look around.

Just something you may want to check out.

use to get Krono via other sites. Went there once and never went anywhere else. if I'm being REALLY lazy ill use the Clockwork Krono. Damn thing works well. Little more than some sellers but its zero effort

 

[Free_Sid]

I justify sub'ing 6 accounts because it's still a cheaper hobby than going out to the bars

I tell my wife the same thing and she agrees!

 

[Lord Sivion]

Just sub them. One weekend working the corner is less time than farming plat for Krono.....

 

[eqsubi15]

I can see that for sure! It's probably been 30 years since I was interested in frequenting a bar. I'm too old for that sh*t now.

Oh, I haven't been in a bar in a long time as well. However, telling my wife EQ for 6 accounts is cheaper than the bar works. And she likes having me around the house vs going out

 

[Grpsmashin]

For 5 Mil plat avg per krono from the looks lately, you will have to farm 30 mil of plat a month.

Pretty easy to do if you know where and what to farm and to sell stuff.

I did this for about 3 months, and honestly, i just sub'ed my group because it was easier lol

 

[RetNavChief]

I justify sub'ing 6 accounts because it's still a cheaper hobby than going out to the bars

Amen to that

 

[delfnec]

I keep using /beg on my wife

 

[tomahawkeer]

Thank you guys for the feedback, I think it will help me get a good start. I don't think it will be too difficult to wrap my head around only subbing 1 account. I very much appreciate it!

 

[deathlock]

Even if you farm the plat or items, I think Krono's are getting harder to come by. I see people begging to buy them for days on end with no luck.

 

[tomahawkeer]

Even if you farm the plat or items, I think Krono's are getting harder to come by. I see people begging to buy them for days on end with no luck.

I have no doubt thats happening, especially on smaller population servers. I know some servers are currently selling them for 5ish million, and then there are servers like FV that are 10-11 million. Its's probably more as a result of population than anything.

 

[Bholm]

@tomahawkeer my advise is to just play and have fun.. while you "can" make money playing this, i think for most of us we would earn more working a few hours of overtime extra.
Personal i know games get ruined for me when i start worring more about farming currency for whatever reason, than just playing the game and enjoying myself. Plus as everyone here are saying there are ways to lower the kronos needed for subs etc.
Enjoy Everquest and all the wonderful tools here that makes the game so much more fun to run arond in just my 2cent

 

[B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y]

Even if you farm the plat or items, I think Krono's are getting harder to come by. I see people begging to buy them for days on end with no luck.

I agree. On my Live server I think as we near the end of an expansion there aren't too many people who need Platinum. Especially since there were no new chase loot items the last expansion. People are largely geared and there's nothing new or compelling to buy except for the rare LON card drops. Finally, I think a lot of people have just quit playing. You can even sense the reduction in force here on RG! This has been driving up the price of Krono quite dramatically.

I'm prepared to start paying for subs but so far my item sales have allowed me to keep up. I don't use a single strategy, I sell tradeskill components and manufactured items, rare drops, and collectibles.

For example, I ran my main crew through Shard's Landing a few years ago using the macro to obtain their Tears of Alaris augmentation. I ended up with hundreds of the collectibles. They are super common drops. However, years later I'm still selling those for a few thousand plat each! People will pay big money when they want to be lazy and avoid actually having to work for those collectible achievements! Doubly amazing when you realize they could also use Overseer to obtain them! A lot of people must avoid Overseer too!

 

[Redmonkey]

Thank you guys for the feedback, I think it will help me get a good start. I don't think it will be too difficult to wrap my head around only subbing 1 account. I very much appreciate it!

Here is how you fall down the rabbit hole.

You sub your main tank guy so he is always beefed up. Then once a month you rotate the other guys. And during that month you auto grant and blow out more exp and AA on that one character. Next month pick another character. Rinse, repeat

Then one month you'll find the money or justify it to yourself that its only $15 and keep one of the alt accounts subbed. Now you have 2 accounts subbed. Rinse, repeat. Until before you know it you have 3 accounts subbed for about $50/month total.

Then instead of going back to F2P or Silver on them, you justify that $50/month is not really that much. See all the reasons given above.

Or and this is where I got sucked in. The discounts for subbing for a year or 3 months or 6 months is very nice. For a year it works out to $10/month, 6 months is $12/month and 3 months is $13/month. I used to use tax refund time - easy in/easy out. But then I don't get refunds anymore. So I had to drop most of them But this way you can also justify still doing the rotation subs since you only have that bigger bill once every so often.

 

[Blasty]

I made Lua's that make about 1.2 mill a day and if you run on a few toons thats a lot of plat.
Note that I do not farm plat myself as I like my accounts

 

[Jetanroth]

I made Lua's that make about 1.2 mill a day and if you run on a few toons thats a lot of plat.
Note that I do not farm plat myself as I like my accounts

Are you selling said Lua's by chance?

 

[Overtimer]

The way I do it, is I have 6 gold accounts. I sub 6 months at a time.

I stagger them so I only pay around $72 per month. first month I pay 6 months worth for 1 char, and second month I pay for the second toon, third month I pay for the 3 third toon, and so forth.
Just use krono to start it.

 

[RobRenfro]

yeah I hear a lot of this too. I krono'd my boxes, but my tank is currently all access every 3 months. Im just trying to understand how people can maintain 6 or 12 and more accounts all access. That gets really expensive quick espically when you start adding in costs of expansions.

Actually and again I'm in the minority. I have 7 accounts six are all access and I sub the 7th. I have this almost superstitious belief that Daybreak will be less interested in busting me if I pay them every month. You have your Great Pumpkin, I have mine. If you are going to farm you make those guys separate and keep them running. Durango said it best to keep accounts subbed you have to be in business of some kind. Tradeskill, TA, Aug farming etc.

 

[Blasty]

Are you selling said Lua's by chance?

I can make you one. Contact me on Discord

 

[Lord Sivion]

Or or....farm IRL money so you don't have to do it in game...

 

[Redmonkey]

Or or....farm IRL money so you don't have to do it in game...

Dang that "real life" - noticed the other day I was "camping" for that handi cap spot about to open. And that shiney I tried to pick up was just a gum wrapper. Got some good stat food + 10 to heartburn tacos.

 

[Robban]

when the ban-hammer echoed across Norrath, this boxer went from 6 gold to 1 gold and 5 FTP. Can still do what I want with my crew but the freedom of not having to "work" for all the kronos is awesome. I can really enjoy the game in a more relaxed way now.

 

[Granditos]

I can make you one. Contact me on Discord

Can you send me a message through RG? I don’t use discord for RG since it has my toons name in it. For some reason I can’t start a conversation with you.

 

[AlleyKat777]

So Tomahawkeer, as you can see from some of these posts it's doable (at least in theory)... But, IMO this is turning EQ into a super low paying job.
Some people enjoy that challenge, and others still manage to scale the operation up till they can pull some cash out of it.
But, is that what you want to do?
I get the feeling from your post you are mostly interested in offsetting the cost of running six toons. If that's the case, perhaps moving over to the Test server would better serve. They get Free gold accounts and for the most part they are a pretty swell community.

I think you put your finger on it. many people think of it as a challenge to get their hobby to pay for itself. I am not knocking anyone's situation, but for me personally, it isn't worth the effort to farm like crazy to pay for the game. 60 a month for gold accounts might seem like a lot, but as one person pointed out, cheaper than a night out at the bar. And to put it in perspective, (again nothing against anyone) if I was working at Burger King making 15 an hour, one shift pays for my EQ addiction for the month.

 

[Smartiez]

A lot of people that I game with make their yearly Krono from a brand new TLP. Farm items, sell them, farm plat and buy Krono. With a good 6 box team you would be able to make several Krono a day for a month or so.