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Question - Fine Tuning KISS (1 Viewer)

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Currently using three-box of Druid/Mage/Necro

Druid is set to healing with no DPS. Necro is set to DPS and Mez. Mage is PullerPetTank.

Been having trouble on a few fronts.

1. Is there any way to get my guys to sit when in combat so that they med? I do have combat med on
2. The Necro seems to send the pet in very late. Assist is set up at the default 95% threshhold. (Fixed I think by changing camp radius)
5. Is there any way to make the mage pet engage closer to camp? Think it's causing some of the problems with Necro
6. Is there anyway to pull greys/PHs where my caster's wont waste mana with their usual spells?
7. No one is buffing the Necro's pet. At all. Is this normal? Even with spells that have no restrictions on their target.
9. With Mage set as MA, when there is an add that targets the Necro's pet, he does not add that target onto his list.
 
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1. Is there any way to get my guys to sit when in combat so that they med? I do have combat med on

You could create a downshit to sit, but combat med basically means when the toon reaches the med point they will med through fights until they reach 90% or more mana

2. The Necro seems to send the pet in very late. Assist is set up at the default 95% threshhold. (Fixed I think by changing camp radius)

Without seeing your ini files I am not sure how large your various camp radius variables are set. Also location where you start the script in proximity to eachother will affect this. the camp radius is a radius around your character if I understand it correctly.

5. Is there any way to make the mage pet engage closer to camp? Think it's causing some of the problems with Necro

This also relates to question #4 as the camp radius could be the culprit

6. Is there anyway to pull greys/PHs where my caster's wont waste mana with their usual spells?

To my knowledge there is no way to determine minimum level for the DPS section of Kiss, so if you pull it they will kill it.

7. No one is buffing the Necro's pet. At all. Is this normal? Even with spells that have no restrictions on their target.

Who is the MA for the KA characters. I do not think that kiss will single target cast buffs on pets unless the pet is MA

9. With Mage set as MA, when there is an add that targets the Necro's pet, he does not add that target onto his list.

is the secondary target that is on the necro pet within the mages camp radius?
 
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Mage:
Rich (BB code): 
[General]
KissAssistVer=8.2.8
Role=PullerPetTank
CampRadius=10
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=1
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=NULL
Buffs2=Shielding|Me
Buffs3=Elemental Shielding|Me
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=20
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Shock of Spikes|75|Once
DPS2=Shock of Spikes|30|Once
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=0
Heals1=NULL
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Summoning:Water
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffs1=Burnout
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetToysOn=0
PetToys1=NULL
PetToys2=NULL
PetToys3=NULL
PetToys4=NULL
PetToys5=NULL
PetToys6=NULL
PetToysGave=NULL
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=Shock of Spikes
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Shock of Blades
MaxRadius=2000
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=30
PullRoleToggle=1
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=1
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

Necro
Rich (BB code): 
[General]
KissAssistVer=8.2.8
Role=PetAssist
CampRadius=15
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=80
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Major Shielding|Me
Buffs2=NULL
Buffs3=NULL
Buffs4=Allure of Death|Me
Buffs5=Spirit Armor|Melee
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=25
[Melee]
AssistAt=85
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Shock of Poison|80|Once
DPS2=Shock of Poison|50|Once
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Siphon Life|70|Tap|Once
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=Haunting Corpse
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
PetToysGave=
[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=80
MezMinLevel=20
MezMaxLevel=24
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Screaming Terror
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=Shock of Poison
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92

Druid:
Rich (BB code): 
[General]
KissAssistVer=8.2.8
Role=Assist
CampRadius=10
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=95
MedCombat=1
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=0
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=1
EQBCOn=0
IRCOn=0
MiscGem=8
HoTTOn=0
CampfireOn=0
GroupEscapeOn=0
[SpellSet]
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
Buffs1=Spirit of Wolf
Buffs2=Skin like Steel|Melee
Buffs3=Shield of Barbs|Melee
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=5
[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=0
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=0
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Careless Lightning|60|Once
DPS2=NULL
DPS3=NULL
DPS4=NULL
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
Heals1=Healing|50
Heals2=NULL
Heals3=NULL
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
Heals6=NULL
Heals7=NULL
Heals8=NULL
Heals9=NULL
Heals10=NULL
Heals11=NULL
Heals12=NULL
Heals13=NULL
Heals14=NULL
Heals15=NULL
XTarHeal=1
AutoRezOn=0
AutoRezWith=Your Rez Item/AA/Spell
[Cures]
CuresOn=1
Cures1=Cure Poison
Cures2=Cure Disease
Cures3=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=0
PetSpell=YourPetSpell
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=Tiny Companion
PetBuffsOn=0
PetBuffs1=NULL
PetBuffs2=NULL
PetBuffs3=NULL
PetBuffs4=NULL
PetBuffs5=NULL
PetBuffs6=NULL
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
[Burn]
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=NULL
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
[Pull]
PullWith=Melee
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
PullWait=0
PullRoleToggle=1
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
ChainPullPause=30|2
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=0
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=150
CampOnDeath=1
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
 
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Ragefiremoney said:
Currently using three-box of Druid/Mage/Necro

1. Is there any way to get my guys to sit when in combat so that they med? I do have combat med on
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Looks like your Necro does not have combatmed on, and your mage is set for 20% med, with no combat med. The druid should be combat meding as you have it setup?

2. The Necro seems to send the pet in very late. Assist is set up at the default 95% threshhold. (Fixed I think by changing camp radius)
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Add a non-agro inducing spell to your mage's DPS list at 99% to start the combat routine. That could help. However I have problems with characters getting hung and not assisting after pulling all the time. Sometimes the fight is nearly over before they engage. I haven't found the cause or solution yet. =(


6. Is there anyway to pull greys/PHs where my caster's wont waste mana with their usual spells?
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No. They will follow the same combat routine every time, unless the mob is named or you can create a trigger to burn. It seems like it would be possible to return a con value to trigger the burn DPS section, but I don't think you can call percentage of health or the |once flag in the burn section.

7. No one is buffing the Necro's pet. At all. Is this normal? Even with spells that have no restrictions on their target.
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Pets are largely ignored by anyone other than the owner of said pet. If you can start KA with the pet targeted where KA uses the pet as the main assist, you could specify buffs with the |MA flag, and they would be cast on the pet.

9. With Mage set as MA, when there is an add that targets the Necro's pet, he does not add that target onto his list.
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Even using a PC tank, they do not run around grabbing aggro like a merc tank does.. at least to my knowledge. I'll play with this after dinner and see.

Sorry to cut short, but food calls.
 
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I've fixed most of my issues on the practical level. Mostly now my few deaths are due to me fighting yellows and reds with a druid healer.

Medding and aggro working fine except when the casters get engaged near their camp spot. But seem to be burning them down long enough even with druid heals.

Would work great with a real pc tank and a full group just due to the increase in fire power.
 
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I have a caster trio of a druid, mage and enchanter that works really well. The enchanter controls adds and helps keep the druid with enough mana to chug along. I have never attempted to use a necro in anything but an all necro group. Three necro's do really good damage and have the option to drop all combat with FD. It's gimmicky but fun.

I'm guessing your on a progression server or something to where merc's aren't an option?
 
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