Problem - Debuffall and attack rate

dewdew · Aug 7, 2021

I am solo player beastlord using hunter and hunterpettank. After debuffingall with slow, I swap back to the main target that my pet is tanking and my attacks are noticeably reduced in frequency. It is as if KA is spamming attack on and off very quickly and my attacks are being cancelled, the only damage I see is my autoskill kick and the occasional primary swing. This only happens when debuffall is being used, and no issues happen if I do not debuffall. I have tried this with and without mq2melee, and if I /mqp during the combat after debuffall is done, my attacks return to the rate as expected.

INI:

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
Role=Hunter
CampRadius=355
CampRadiusExceed=500
ReturnToCamp=0
ChaseAssist=1
ChaseDistance=10
MedOn=1
MedStart=50
MedStop=100
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
CorpseRecoveryOn=0
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Beastlord|65|GOLD
DefaultUI=TRUE
DPSMeter=0
ScatterOn=0
XTSlot=1
HoTTOn=0
interruption=1
[SpellS]
MiscGem=6
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
CastingInterruptOn=0
Gem1=Invisibility
Gem2=Scorpion Venom
Gem3=Sha's Revenge
Gem4=Chloroblast
Gem5=Healing of Sorsha
Gem6=celerity
Gem7=malaria
Gem8=regrowth
[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=celerity|me
Buffs2=Paragon of Spirit|Mana|80
Buffs3=regrowth
Buffs4=symbol of the planemasters|me
Buffs5=Spiritual Dominion|me
Buffs6=Spiritual Vigor|me
Buffs7=Acumen|me
Buffs8=Disease Awareness IV|Me
Buffs9=Amulet of Necropotence|me
Buffs10=Talisman of kragg
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL
BuffsCOn=0
[Melee]
AssistAt=100
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=2
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=truehead moveback 50% 15 always
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=2
TargetSwitchingOn=0
[GoM]
GoMSHelp=Format - Spell|Target, MA Me or Mob, i.e. Rampaging Servant Rk. II|Mob
GoMSize=3
GoMSpell1=NULL
GoMSpell2=NULL
GoMSpell3=NULL
[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL
[AE]
AEOn=0
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=NULL
AE2=NULL
AE3=NULL
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL
[DPS]
DPSOn=2
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=sha's revenge|100|debuffall|slow
DPS2=malaria|94
DPS3=frenzy of spirit|94|weave
DPS4=bestial fury discipline|94|weave
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=1
[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
Aggro2nd=0
[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=2
AutoRezOn=0
HealsSize=5
Heals1=healing of sorsha|45|pet
Heals2=Paragon of Spirit|70|!pet
heals3=chloroblast|45|!pet
Heals4=distillate of celestial healing x|55|me
Heals5=NULL
Heals5=Null
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
RezMeLast=0
[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL
[Pet]
PetOn=1
PetSpell=spirit of sorsha
PetFocus=NULL
PetShrinkOn=0
PetShrinkSpell=symbol of ancient summoning
PetBuffsOn=1
PetBuffsSize=8
PetBuffs1=regrowth
PetBuffs2=arag's celerity
PetBuffs3=Spirit of rellic
PetBuffs4=Spiritual Strength
PetBuffs5=Talisman of kragg
PetBuffs6=infusion of spirit
PetBuffs7=NULL
PetBuffs8=NULL
PetCombatOn=1
PetAssistAt=100
PetAttackDistance=115
PetToysSize=6
PetBreakMezSpell=NULL
PetRampPullWait=0
PetSuspend=0
MoveWhenHit=0
PetHoldOn=0
PetForceHealOnMed=1
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[Burn]
BurnAllNamed=0
UseTribute=0
BurnSize=15
Burn1=scorpion venom|90|once
Burn2=NULL
Burn3=NULL
Burn4=NULL
Burn5=NULL
Burn6=NULL
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
BurnText=Decepticons Attack
[Pull]
PullWith=melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=355
MaxZRange=150
UseWayPointZ=100
PullWait=10
PullRadiusToUse=75
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=90|1
PullLevel=51|58
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=0
CondSize=5
Cond1=NULL
Cond2=NULL
Cond3=NULL
Cond4=NULL
Cond5=NULL
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=08/04/2021 10:41:10
ErrorMsg:=Couldn't open macro file: C:\Users\Mike\mqn\Macros\load.mac
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=Usage: /macro <filename> [param [param...]]
RunningTime:=94022
BuildDate:=20210801
CurrentUI:=default

B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y · Aug 7, 2021

I haven't played a level 65 in ages, but just reviewing your INI file I wanted to point out a couple things:

There's a remnant at the bottom of your General section showing interruption=1 that should be deleted.

Try actually turning on CastingInterruptOn=30.

Your heal section is set to only use Group heals? Not sure if that's a factor or not, but as an experiment try turning off heals entirely! Because the only thing I've seen that should cause your DPS to fail is if the Heal section kicks in repeatedly and it can't determine what spell to cast for the given circumstance.

Finally, I see you have 2 different Heals5=Null lines. I'm sure it makes no difference but I believe in removing spurious artifacts just to ensure they have no impact on the macro.

dewdew · Aug 7, 2021

B_I_G__D_A_D_D_Y said:
I haven't played a level 65 in ages, but just reviewing your INI file I wanted to point out a couple things:

There's a remnant at the bottom of your General section showing interruption=1 that should be deleted.

Try actually turning on CastingInterruptOn=30.

Your heal section is set to only use Group heals? Not sure if that's a factor or not, but as an experiment try turning off heals entirely! Because the only thing I've seen that should cause your DPS to fail is if the Heal section kicks in repeatedly and it can't determine what spell to cast for the given circumstance.

Finally, I see you have 2 different Heals5=Null lines. I'm sure it makes no difference but I believe in removing spurious artifacts just to ensure they have no impact on the macro.

interruption=1 was something I saw in order to fix the issue where an interrupted spell doesnt get recasted, as it would if it was resisted. I removed it as suggested.
castinginterrupton=1 was causing issues where it would not cast a dps spell if my pet was close to needing a heal, or so I suspected. I changed it to 30 to test.

Heal section is only casting a pet heal, and a single target heal on non-pets, with an elixir for emergency, turning it off had no effect on my issue. Removed the dupe heal5 that got there somehow, good catch thx.

My main issue is how KA treats turning on attack after running the debuffall script. I can see my attack light on the UI flashing super fast on and off as it attempts to attack the mob. Mq2melee on or off has no impact, only /mqp pausing ka allows my attacks to not be spam toggled, however clearly thats not really a longterm solution.
*Something to note, if I change targets to heal myself/pet, and swap back to attack the target, I do not have this issue. It is only when changing between NPC's to debuffall that this problem happens.

Has anyone been able to use debuffall with more than 1 mob in camp on a melee toon without a group assist solo? This seems extremely unique situation I have been trying to research on my own and couldnt find any forum post about it before making this thread.

ctaylor22 · Aug 8, 2021

Well the problem you are having, is by design. The debuff routine gets called from the combat routine after /attacking the mob. So you are already in combat. Now lets say we don't turn off /attack and let you switch to a target to cast debuffs, what do you think is going to happen? What if the mob your going to debuff is mezed?

Try changing DebuffAllOn=2 and see if that helps any.

dewdew · Aug 8, 2021

ctaylor22 said:
Well the problem you are having, is by design. The debuff routine gets called from the combat routine after /attacking the mob. So you are already in combat. Now lets say we don't turn off /attack and let you switch to a target to cast debuffs, what do you think is going to happen? What if the mob your going to debuff is mezed?

Try changing DebuffAllOn=2 and see if that helps any.

I understand and agree that this should be a feature. The issue I am having is how KA is turning attack back on after completing the debuff cycle. It is not cleanly turning attack back on, as it would if I swapped to a PC to heal them and then back to the NPC. It appears like it is chain toggling attack on/of in a very rapid pace, and the characters autos are not cleanly firing.

Debuffallon=1 or 2 has the same results in terms of the /attack being toggled back on cleanly.

Is there a way to edit the way that the debuffall routine handles turning back on /attack after it is ran? In my tests it is not being treated the same as it does after a heal routine is executed, when I feel like it should.

ctaylor22 · Aug 9, 2021

The heal routine does not turn off attack, unless you are on the zek server. So there is no /attack off issued from the heal routines. I don't have what you would consider a good answer, /attack off is issued from the mez routine and the debuff routine, because the character is required to target the mobs and if /attack is still on then there is all kinds of issues.

dewdew · Aug 9, 2021

Thanks for trying to help out, I appreciate it!

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