Question - Bard will not med

[Cluebot]

Medding is on with out-of-combat selected with the default 60/90 thresholds but he just will not sit out of combat. Any ideas?

 

[Lord Sivion]

This has been a thing since RGMercs Macro. There really should be a workable solution to having the bard sit and regen mana when out of combat. Because when this can't happen, you can never have the bard as puller in a traditional camp set up as he will never pull with groupwatch and OOM. Also, this hinders group death recovery as the bard will not med his mana and once again, groupwatch doesn't work unless using groupwatch for healers only.

 

[Daxchu]

Seems like the no sitting is intended for some reason. In the RGMercUtils.AutoMed() function (Lua\rgmercs\utils\rgmercs_utils.Lua line 2116) there is this condition;

if me.Class.ShortName():lower() == "brd" and me.Level() > 5 then return end

Regardless of your DoMed setting, if you are a bard over level 6 it will exit out of the med routine.

 

[Robban]

so whats the current status of bards and mana medding?

before out-of-combat regen was a thing, bards had no gain in sitting right?

 

[DEADCiTiES]

If you take a look at the bards stat page while toggling the bard siting and standing, you'll notice their mana regen doesn't change. Also, look at their skills. They have 1 point max meditation skill. I believe their mana regen is only boosted by the gear they're wearing.

 

[Daxchu]

If you take a look at the bards stat page while toggling the bard siting and standing, you'll notice their mana regen doesn't change. Also, look at their skills. They have 1 point max meditation skill. I believe their mana regen is only boosted by the gear they're wearing.

There seems to be something else going on though. The stats page shows regen numbers while in combat. Out of combat regen isn't listed on there unless I'm overlooking something. Toggling sit/stand will increase the in-combat numbers for me by 1. Which isn't worth considering.

Out of combat though, watching endurance and mana numbers tick up while toggling between sitting and standing is significantly different. Even the speed of the ticks seems to increase while sitting. The amount of time it takes to recover to full endurance/mana while out of combat appears to be much faster sitting.

I think this is due to the "rest" system in the game. Which increases regen rates while sitting an extra 3% (or more based on buffs).

 

[DEADCiTiES]

You're right, my bard is gaining mana faster sitting. I was only looking at the stats and didn't give it enough time to compare the actual mana pool gaining.

 

[ChatWithThisName]

You're right, my bard is gaining mana faster sitting. I was only looking at the stats and didn't give it enough time to compare the actual mana pool gaining.

That's because of Rested Regen. It doesn't matter what their meditate skill is, you're not going to get rested regen unless you're sitting, so sit you must.

 

[Lord Sivion]

I don't understand why so many people are confused by the whole Bard not gaining significant mana thing while sitting. They absolutely do, and real world tests reveal this. Sometimes, it isn't just about stat numbers.

Again, this should be addressed in the Lua to have an option to have Bards sit while out of combat to rest. (yes I know songs will be an issue here while sitting). But an option, would be nice.