Problem - Bard Mezzing

[Jalerian]

I am having issues with my Bard and his mezzing. He often tries to mez a target and melee that same target it at the same time. He has also not cast his AoE mez when there are more than enough mobs in camp to do so. I am on Ragefire and level 85. Here is his ini:

[General]
KissAssistVer=12.001
Role=Assist
CampRadius=30
CampRadiusExceed=400
ReturnToCamp=1
ChaseAssist=0
ChaseDistance=25
MedOn=1
MedStart=20
MedCombat=0
LootOn=0
RezAcceptOn=1|90
AcceptInvitesOn=1
GroupWatchOn=0
GroupWatchCheck=FALSE
EQBCOn=0
DanNetOn=0
DanNetDelay=20
IRCOn=0
CampfireOn=0
CharInfo=Bard|85|GOLD
DPSMeter=1
ScatterOn=0
TwistOn=1
TwistMed=1
TwistWhat=2 3 4 1
XTSlot=1
MedStop=100
CorpseRecoveryOn=0

[Spells]
MiscGem=8
MiscGemLW=0
MiscGemRemem=1
CastingInterruptOn=0
LoadSpellSet=0
SpellSetName=KissAssist
Gem1=Cantata of Rodcet
Gem2=War March of Brekt
Gem3=Aria of the Artist
Gem4=Storm Blade
Gem5=NULL
Gem6=Wave of Slumber
Gem7=Slumber of the Mindshear
Gem8=NULL
Gem9=Selo's Song of Travel
Gem10=NULL
Gem11=NULL
Gem12=NULL
Gem13=NULL

[Buffs]
BuffsOn=1
BuffsSize=20
Buffs1=Aura of the Poet|Aura|Dual|Aura of the Poet Effect
Buffs2=Selo's Sonata|MA
Buffs3=Selo's Sonata|Cond1
Buffs4=NULL
Buffs5=NULL
Buffs6=NULL
Buffs7=NULL
Buffs8=NULL
Buffs9=NULL
Buffs10=NULL
Buffs11=NULL
Buffs12=NULL
Buffs13=NULL
Buffs14=NULL
Buffs15=NULL
Buffs16=NULL
Buffs17=NULL
Buffs18=NULL
Buffs19=NULL
Buffs20=NULL
RebuffOn=1
CheckBuffsTimer=10
PowerSource=NULL

[Melee]
AssistAt=95
MeleeOn=1
FaceMobOn=1
MeleeDistance=75
StickHow=snaproll
AutoFireOn=0
UseMQ2Melee=1
TargetSwitchingOn=0
MeleeTwistOn=1
MeleeTwistWhat=2 3 4 1

[GMail]
GMailHelp=Events currently support - Dead,Drag,GM,Level,Named,Leftgroup,Tells
GMailOn=0
GMailSize=5
GMail1=NULL
GMail2=NULL
GMail3=NULL
GMail4=NULL
GMail5=NULL

[AE]
AEOn=1
AESize=10
AERadius=50
AE1=Quick Time|3
AE2=Spire of the Minstrels|3
AE3=Fierce Eye|3
AE4=NULL
AE5=NULL
AE6=NULL
AE7=NULL
AE8=NULL
AE9=NULL
AE10=NULL

[DPS]
DPSOn=1
DPSSize=20
DPSSkip=20
DPSInterval=2
DPS1=Boastful Bellow|98|Cond2
DPS2=Cacophony|98
DPS3=Bladed Song|98
DPS4=Selo's Sonata|30
DPS5=NULL
DPS6=NULL
DPS7=NULL
DPS8=NULL
DPS9=NULL
DPS10=NULL
DPS11=NULL
DPS12=NULL
DPS13=NULL
DPS14=NULL
DPS15=NULL
DPS16=NULL
DPS17=NULL
DPS18=NULL
DPS19=NULL
DPS20=NULL
DebuffAllOn=0

[Aggro]
AggroOn=0
AggroSize=5
Aggro1=NULL
Aggro2=NULL
Aggro3=NULL
Aggro4=NULL
Aggro5=NULL
Aggro2nd=0

[Pull]
PullTwistOn=0
PullWith=Melee
PullMeleeStick=0
MaxRadius=350
MaxZRange=50
UseWayPointZ=0
PullWait=5
PullRadiusToUse=90
PullRoleToggle=0
ChainPull=0
ChainPullHP=90
PullPause=30|2
PullLevel=0|0
PullArcWidth=0
PullOnReturn=0

[Heals]
Help=Format Spell|% to heal at i.e. Devout Light Rk. II|50
HealsOn=1
HealsSize=5
Heals1=Hymn of the Last Stand|80|Me
Heals2=Shield of Notes|80|Me
Heals3=Fading Memories|50|once
Heals4=NULL
Heals5=NULL
XTarHeal=0
XTarHealList=Xtar slots here Example: 5|6|7
HealGroupPetsOn=0
AutoRezOn=0
RezMeLast=0

[Cures]
CuresOn=0
CuresSize=5
Cures1=NULL
Cures2=NULL
Cures3=NULL
Cures4=NULL
Cures5=NULL

[Mez]
MezOn=1
MezRadius=50
MezMinLevel=60
MezMaxLevel=88
MezStopHPs=80
MezSpell=Slumber of the Mindshear
MezDebuffOnResist=0
MezDebuffSpell=Your Debuff Spell
MezAESpell=Wave of Slumber|3

[Burn]
BurnSize=15
BurnAllNamed=0
Burn1=Quick Time|99
Burn2=Spire of the Minstrels|99
Burn3=Funeral Dirge|99
Burn4=Fierce Eye|99
Burn5=Dance of Blades|99
Burn6=Song of Stone|99
Burn7=NULL
Burn8=NULL
Burn9=NULL
Burn10=NULL
Burn11=NULL
Burn12=NULL
Burn13=NULL
Burn14=NULL
Burn15=NULL
UseTribute=0
[AFKTools]
AFKHelp=AFKGMAction=0 Off, 1 Pause Macro, 2 End Macro, 3 Unload MQ2, 4 Quit Game
AFKToolsOn=1
AFKGMAction=1
AFKPCRadius=500
CampOnDeath=0
ClickBacktoCamp=0
[KConditions]
ConOn=1
CondSize=5
Cond1=!${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerato].ID} && !${Me.Buff[Selo's Accelerando].ID}
Cond2=${Target.BuffsPopulated} && !${Target.Buff[Boastful Bellow].ID}
Cond3=TRUE
Cond4=TRUE
Cond5=TRUE
[Merc]
Help=To use: Turn off Auto Assist in Manage Mercenary Window
MercOn=0
MercAssistAt=92
[KissError]
LastCMD:=/endmacro
ErrorDateTime:=01/08/2021 01:15:17
ErrorMsg:=Cannot end a macro when one isn't running.
DataError:=NULL
SyntaxError:=NULL
RunningTime:=7891455
BuildDate:=20210105
CurrentUI:=Eternal_Darkness
[PullAdvanced]
PullLocsOn=0

 

[Branson24]

If you don’t want the bard to melee then you can change MeleeOn=1 to MeleeOn=0. I would do that first and see if it helps.

 

[LorDeth]

If you don’t want the bard to melee then you can change MeleeOn=1 to MeleeOn=0. I would do that first and see if it helps.

I've been having similar, not exactly the same, issue on live with a 115 bard.. I normally sit active on my tank's window, so i dont see the exact interactions going on with my bard (he's a red-headed step child, and I WILL BEAT HIM if needed).. but i thought something funky was going on so watched him through a few fights..

He was doing something similar to what Jalerian was describing.. In my case, he'd successfully use the AE mez when the group of mobs pull to the camp, then he would start single mezzing them, but then he'd also be trying over and over to mez the tanks target which the group was DPS'ing.. and would sort of "toggle" between attacking that mob and doing his normal combat twist, and then breaking twist and mezzing the tank/MA's target.. it was very odd..

I couldnt tell what the cause was, but its been happening since I moved to kiss 12.. I havent had much more time to really look at it, and log and debug it, but its like he's getting his target ID's wrong..

maybe this weekend I'll get a chance to, and will see what ctaylor and the KA crew have to say.. Bards are probably the toughest class to automate due to their flip-flopping role and different rules with singing vs casting..

Meantime, the ginger nut is gonna get it..

 

[ctaylor22]

@LorDeth If you could PM me a copy of a debug log of your bard. Also if your using MQ2Melee, you will have issues with mezzing. The Mez routine does not turn off MQ2Melee before trying to mez.

The Mez routine checks for combat and turns /attack off when mezzing, and reacquires the MA's target when leaving the mez routine.

 

[Jalerian]

Also if your using MQ2Melee, you will have issues with mezzing. The Mez routine does not turn off MQ2Melee before trying to mez.

The Mez routine checks for combat and turns /attack off when mezzing, and reacquires the MA's target when leaving the mez routine.

Does this mean you can't use a bard to melee? If you don't use MQ2Melee, what would control his movement and attacking?

 

[ctaylor22]

@Jalerian Kiss will control movement if you have UseMQ2Melee turned off. You can use a bard to melee using MQ2Melee, it just doesn't work if you use the Bard to Mez. There is so much you can do With MQ2Melee, That it makes it difficult to control the Bard when mezzing. MQ2Melee will not let you switch targets once you turn on attack(/Killthis) unless you turn off melee. It the point with mezzing is to keep it as fast as possible.

 

[LorDeth]

@Jalerian Kiss will control movement if you have UseMQ2Melee turned off. You can use a bard to melee using MQ2Melee, it just doesn't work if you use the Bard to Mez. There is so much you can do With MQ2Melee, That it makes it difficult to control the Bard when mezzing. MQ2Melee will not let you switch targets once you turn on attack(/Killthis) unless you turn off melee. It the point with mezzing is to keep it as fast as possible.

ahh i wonder if thats the issue.. funny though it wasnt really a problem with older versions of kiss...

So, just a matter of turning melee off in mq2melee and let kiss control everything? I still like using mq2melee for all the shits though.. looks like might be time to look at moving that over to react...

I'll try this first and see how it does.. then will start doing some debug logs if the issue persists.. havent had a chance quite yet though, RL stuff saturday busyness

 

[Jalerian]

Yes, it seems like turning off MQ2Melee solved my mez break issues. Thanks!